Itms Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 Hello! This is what I did, with a friend for female voices, for Latin sentences. The sentences can be found here: http://www.wildfiregames.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=18631, don't hesitate to correct things on my translation... Enjoy it, and please give me some feedback! Update (20/05) Male voices here Female voices here Thanks, Itms 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 Can be sticky the post for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nylki Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 (edited) the pronounciation sounds correct to me (studied Latin with proper classical pronounciation). I am not sure about ave though (in your male sounds).I think it should be slightly more like ah veh instead of ah vee. Not entirely sure though.I must say, the female voices sound really nice. I like the intensity of the attack voice. However the fight voice in comparison is a bit too weak and fast in my opinion. Edited May 15, 2014 by nylki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itms Posted May 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 nylki: I agree with you for the 'fight' voice. About the ave, I actually pronounced it ah-veh but I listened again and it's not perfectly clear. So I should try to record these two phrases again.Thanks for your feedback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoekeloosNL Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 I like it thats all i have to say.. Keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 Didn't the V have a W sound back then?The voices sound nice! One thing I would encourage is to add a little more 'drama' to them. Drama is one thing our game lacks at the moment. Some sounds (like "Yes Lord?") should be enunciated as a question, for example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itms Posted May 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Yes it did, I was just answering nylki about the eh/ee problem but the pronunciation in the recordings is rightly W.To get a precise idea, is the intonation of 'my lord' right for the male voice? I agree it lacks 'drama' on the female one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallaecio Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Great job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flavius Aetius Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) Can't listen to the voices so not criticizing you guys here, but here is proper Latin pronunciation in "Classical Latin" according to my Latin Teacher with a PHD in Roman culture.v - pronounced like a w (So Flavius is pronunced Flawius)a - pronounced like "ah"e - pronounced like the Fonz ("Eh!")ae - pronounced like the word "I"u - pronnounced like a double O (So Flawioos)i - pronounced like the long way (like the word "I")ii - pronounced like the letter E (So Gladii is Glad-eey-eey)c - pronounced like a Ko - pronounced normally, just depends on the letter usagey - pronounced like in the word "I" "So Lekythos is Lek - aye - thos) Edited May 19, 2014 by Flavius Aetius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serveurix Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) On 19/05/2014 at 5:38 PM, Flavius Aetius said: Can't listen to the voices so not criticizing you guys here, but here is proper Latin pronunciation in "Classical Latin" according to my Latin Teacher with a PHD in Roman culture.v - pronounced like a w (So Flavius is pronunced Flawius)a - pronounced like "ah"e - pronounced like the Fonz ("Eh!")ae - pronounced like the word "I"u - pronnounced like a double O (So Flawioos)i - pronounced like the long way (like the word "I")ii - pronounced like the letter E (So Gladii is Glad-eey-eey)c - pronounced like a Ko - pronounced normally, just depends on the letter usagey - pronounced like in the word "I" "So Lekythos is Lek - aye - thos)My latin teacher pronounced the same way, except "ae" (pronounced like e - "Eh!") and "i" and "y" (pronounced like the letter "E" in English). Edited May 19, 2014 by serveurix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itms Posted May 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 On 19/05/2014 at 5:38 PM, Flavius Aetius said: Can't listen to the voices so not criticizing you guys here, but here is proper Latin pronunciation in "Classical Latin" according to my Latin Teacher with a PHD in Roman culture.v - pronounced like a w (So Flavius is pronunced Flawius)a - pronounced like "ah"e - pronounced like the Fonz ("Eh!")ae - pronounced like the word "I"u - pronnounced like a double O (So Flawioos)i - pronounced like the long way (like the word "I")ii - pronounced like the letter E (So Gladii is Glad-eey-eey)c - pronounced like a Ko - pronounced normally, just depends on the letter usagey - pronounced like in the word "I" "So Lekythos is Lek - aye - thos)Thanks Flavius!I use this pronunciation, so no problem!I just disagree for 'y', because it's a letter that doesn't exist in Latin. Many Latin words taken for Greek have a 'y', therefore they are pronounced like the French 'u' (this sound doesn't exist in English, if I'm not mistaken). This is not a problem because there is no 'y' in the recorded voices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunChleoc Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) I'm no Latin expert, but 2 thing struck me here:Wouldn't it make sense that "ae" is an diphthong?The English pronunciation of the letters "i" an "e" are an aberration, because of the great vowel shift some centuries ago. Better pronounce them as in any Romance language I guess, as and [e]. Edited May 20, 2014 by GunChleoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 On 20/05/2014 at 11:14 AM, GunChleoc said: I'm no Latin expert, but 2 thing struck me here:Wouldn't it make sense that "ae" is an diphthong?The English pronunciation of the letters "i" an "e" are an aberration, because of the great vowel shift some centuries ago. Better pronounce them as in any Romance language I guess, as and [e]. not example Caesar is pronounces Kaesar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itms Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) On 20/05/2014 at 11:14 AM, GunChleoc said: I'm no Latin expert, but 2 thing struck me here:Wouldn't it make sense that "ae" is an diphthong?The English pronunciation of the letters "i" an "e" are an aberration, because of the great vowel shift some centuries ago. Better pronounce them as in any Romance language I guess, as and [e].Yes you're right, and being French I don't have this vowel problem But Flavius had to use English words to explain what sounds he talked about. Can you confirm the recorded voices sound good to you? EDIT: sorry, actually I dońt agree at all with Flavius on 'i', because I made a mistake in my English pronunciation!And about 'ae' linguists tend to think it was actually not a dipthong. Edited May 20, 2014 by Itms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flavius Aetius Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) It is pronounced like the word "I". The reason it's pronounced like an "I" and not like an "eh" or "ee" is because the latter two pronunciations are a result of arabic turkish influence, through modifications of letters like the diaresis.E.g. Aetius should be "Aye-tee-oos", not "Ee-tee-oos" or "Eh-tee-oos" because the Diaresis often put over the E in Aetius' name did not exist until the 11th century AD. (Although the pronunciation is also debatable because it is Latinized Greek [Aetios -> Aetius])As for the letter Y, I think that in the Latin words that used a Y (can't think of any off the top of my head) its pronunciation was based on context.And yes, the German "Kaisar" is the correct way to pronounce "Caesar" Edited May 20, 2014 by Flavius Aetius 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itms Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Flavius: I think everyone here (at least me, you and GunCheloc) agrees on the pronunciation. However, some vowel sounds do not correspond to anything existing in English, due to the shift. This is the reason why 'ae', pronounced [ae], is very close to 'I' [aǝ].To solve this Babel problem, I suggest you make remarks directly about the recordings, so I have a precise idea of possible mistakes!And by the way, I just updated the voices in the first post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flavius Aetius Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Will check it out tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunChleoc Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) They sound good to me, but as I said, I don't speak Latin. It does fit with what I know about Romance languages though.Maybe you could slow down "fight" a bit, it is very fast. Edited May 20, 2014 by GunChleoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) I do a Alternate one you know.https://soundcloud.com/marcio-duron/attack2 Edited May 20, 2014 by Lion.Kanzen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flavius Aetius Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Roman Drill Commands:http://www.ludusmilitis.org/articles/LM_Tactica_May_2010.pdfThese are based on a number of known commands form various texts ranging from Caesar's Gallic Wars to the Strategikon of Maurikos. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pureon Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Committed latin male voice files in http://trac.wildfiregames.com/changeset/15435/Note: This doesn't mean we'll have any languages other than Ancient Greek in 0 A.D. (Part 1) - that decision hasn't changed afaik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pureon Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Itms, would you mind doing the Legal Waiver here:http://www.wildfiregames.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=16802Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowsFate Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Salvete, Omnes; My name is ShadowsFate - I am here under orders of the main developer in regards to offering my services as a professional voice actor for the project. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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