Translation [Discussion] Localization (again)

[GunChleoc]

We checked the chart and it's there, but we also lack a locale for Latin, which they have not listed. So, I dug around and found this:

http://userguide.icu-project.org/locale

No idea if this helps

Concerning the script, Gaelic should be fine with the same codepage as French for now.

Edited May 5, 2014 by GunChleoc

[GunChleoc]

I have just had another idea: rather than adding exceptions for locales that don't exist, we should use a default locale if the validation fails, but still load the translations fot the desired language.

Actually ICU does have a fallback procedure according to their homepage:

1. The variant is removed, if there is one.

2. The country is removed, if there is one.

3. The script is removed, if there is one.

4. The ICU default locale is examined. The same set of steps is performed for the default locale.

http://userguide.icu-project.org/locale#TOC-Fallback

[sanderd17]

Yes, we seem to currently validate a locale by getting all locale data from icu, and checking if it matches.

While icu is clever enough to do fallbacks on its own. So we should probably just drop that check (I tested that, and it works) our maybe do the check, but only warn users about some incorrect stuff (s.a. a wrong date format) they may see.

[GunChleoc]

You could have a warning in debug mode only, so you can then tell the localizers that something's wrong in ICU for their language. I will definitely be working on getting my language into their default package now that I know it's missing.

[GunChleoc]

I don't know where to put this, so I'm listing here where I will need more space for Gaelic:

Language -> Advanced -> Auto detect

Options: first column. This might be solved by having more space between options when there is an overflow

I have tweaked all the other strings that are too long, so if you could pull Gaelic one more time from Transifex befoe the release, it would be great.

[GunChleoc]

Where does the string "Unload %(name)s" appear in the game? I need some more context for translation

gui/session/unit_commands.js:459

[leper]

Tooltip when ungarrisoning units IIRC.

[GunChleoc]

Found it with your help, thanks!

[jackky]

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Edited June 2, 2014 by jackky

[GunChleoc]

I have a string question.

gui-ingame.pot

gui/session/dialogs/yes_no.xml:15 (caption)

"Yes or no?"

My language has no words for yes/no. We use the positive/negative form of the verb that was used in the question instead (Portuguese speakers will know what I'm talking about, but I don't have any Sim/Não type alternative to use). So, I need some context here.

[feneur]

That's used in all cases where a yes or no question is needed, so that might be a bit of a problem. Are there words for agree/disagree or something like that you could use instead?

[GunChleoc]

We usually expand questions with a standard verb to make this happen,because most projects don't allow individual translation of yes/no. It would help me to see such a message on screen to make sense of this string - wouldn't there be 2 buttons to click anyway, so why is this string there at all?

A screenshot or instructions on how to trigger this string would help me.

Edited September 10, 2014 by GunChleoc

[feneur]

Hmm, taking a closer look at that file it might not be actually used anywhere but just used as a template for the actual text that is then added via Javascript to create the final "yes or no" question. I'll leave it to the programmers to say for sure though as that's beyond my knowledge.

[sanderd17]

This string is indeed part of a demo. The demo is meant to show triggers asking questions to players (and reacting on it). For the demo, it just has a "yes" and "no" button, and logs what the user pressed.

IIRC, you can see it by launching the trigger demo map.

[GunChleoc]

Thanks, I know what to do now. I'll translate this as "Is it or isn't it?"

[GunChleoc]

I have a question regarding recent string changes. In this string:

S or \[down]: Pan screen down

is "down" to be translated or left in English?

[leper]

To be translated (the down-arrow button is meant). (If something has an escaped (preceeded by '\' (unless that is preceeded by a '\' itself)) '[' that text will show up as '[...' in the game.)