Crowd-sourced Civ: Mauryan Indians

[om_rahul]

Here is what I have.

Variation A

Variation B with multiple front variations. The back stays the same. I didn't add a roof.

Section looking awseome. From historical point of view section B will we more prefrable.

[om_rahul]

if you are thinking to implement lothal dock, you must have to see this picture:

http://bharatdiscovery.org/w/images/1/15/Lothal.jpg

this painting is drawn as according to lothal city.

may it will help you.

[Sighvatr]

Looks like a little pool area that is connected to the rivers and irrigation. That is pretty neat.

[Mythos_Ruler]

Perhaps a good fishing boat reference there too.

[MishFTW]

if you are thinking to implement lothal dock, you must have to see this picture:

http://bharatdiscove...1/15/Lothal.jpg

this painting is drawn as according to lothal city.

may it will help you.

Enrique shared that picture with me yesterday Perhaps some stone block props and some lumber can be placed on the dock platform.

[om_rahul]

Enrique shared that picture with me yesterday Perhaps some stone block props and some lumber can be placed on the dock platform.

Brick will we better choice, because they used the sun dried bricks to make lothal and lumber can be placed on it. "there is no proof lumber whether they use or not, and that time lumber are utilize in large amount".

[Josh]

@Geek377 I see your using Sketchup for modeling, how do you unwrap the UVs and convert it to COLLADA? Because on my corral I spent nearly 10% of my time in Skechup designing it and 90% of my time UV unwrapping, texturing and converting in 3DS max.

Edited August 17, 2012 by Josh

[MishFTW]

@Josh I've used it in the past but like I mentioned before, I don't intend on UV wrapping. SketchUp offers direct Collada export with the textures. Just "paint" the model and export it. From there I usually take it to Blender, maybe sculpt a bit, tweak it and then export to whatever format. But I don't intend to do that, I'm just making concepts. (If I had the right 3D skills, I would probably be an artist )

[lilstewie]

Kushan Indian swordsman mercenary

Edited August 20, 2012 by lilstewie

[lilstewie]

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  • Fishing Boat: Fisherman is called a "Machuara" in Hindi and "Matsyapalak" in Sanskrit
    
  • Merchant Ship: "Vanijyik Nauka" is the literal translation.
    

Coinage from the Satavahana empire(one of the successors of the Mauryans).

A double masted ship.

http://tech.groups.y...gy/message/3343

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Edited August 18, 2012 by lilstewie

[Mythos_Ruler]

Excellent reference images. It would be great if someone could translate the Russian for each image into English.

[lilstewie]

These images are from the Mauryan ruins of a hypostyle 80-pillared hall. From Pataliputra.

^^^

One of the Pillars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumhrar

Kumhrar, is the site of the ancient city of Patliputra, lies 5 kms from Patna railway station. Archaeological findings in this area establish Patna's claim to over a thousand years of political glory - 600 BC to 600 AD. The place contains the ruins of the ancient city Patliputra. Very little of this grandeur remains though, except for the remains of a huge Mauryan hall supported by 80 sandstone pillars datingback to 300 BC.

Edited August 21, 2012 by lilstewie

[Spahbod]

Excellent reference images. It would be great if someone could translate the Russian for each image into English.

Isn't fcxSanya Russian?

may be can detect text with Adobe Acrobat Pro, and translate with Google, i like those units.

There is no need. I can read and write/type Cyrillic.

[om_rahul]

Hii, i am joined few days ago Playing this game is realy awseome (Normaly i don't play RTS game). The thing attracted me to this game is mauryans because i am belonging from same countries of ancient heroes.

i have keen interest in 0ad development. i am so glad to help you and contribute to 0ad as much i can do.

I read this topic "Crowd-sourced Civ: Mauryan Indians" and "desgin and document mauryan"completely, if you want to ask regarding any question about, pls free to post.

i am not that much familiar with open source development process, if you tell me what i can contribute it will be more helpful for me to focussing on thing.

"sorry for my english"

[plumo]

Well, you can always help looking for historical references, ancient names, ...

[Mythos_Ruler]

Hi om_rahul! Yeah, the best help you could give is references, names/Sanskrit words, research, etc. If you have the time and resources.

[om_rahul]

@plumo, @Mythos_Ruler, Thanks, i will try to do my best, but first i need a time to understand what are the information(refernece) "0ad" have and what i can add on it. Is their any other discussion group or information means how much work is done on it? "pls send a link"

[fcxSanya]

Excellent reference images. It would be great if someone could translate the Russian for each image into English.

Here you are (translations under images):

Indian warriors

Image shows forces, which Alexander defeated near Hydaspes. Elephant is ridden by an elephant driver and raja, armed with bamboo spears. Elephant's tusks are strengthened by bronze attachments. The main weapon for Indians was large six feet (1.8 m) long bow, shooting with long (3 feet - about 1 m) arrows. Each sword (fcxSanya's note: here is used Russian term палаш which appearance dated the end of 16th - early 17th centiries A.D. in the ruwiki article) had very broad blade; sword was held in either one or both hands. Shild was made from leather.

Amazons of India

Many Indian kings had detachments of woman-bodyguards. Tradition ascribe the existence of such detachments yet to ancient legendary kings. Indeed, apparently Chandragupta was first who used detachment of woman-bodyguards (fcxSanya's note: there is just "Чандрагупта" ("Chandragupta") written in the text, and there is also other Chandraguptas, but it is clear from the later text that Chandragupta Maurya is being described). According to Megasthenes these woman-bodyguards escorted Chandragupta on the hunting, riding horses, chariots and elephants (fcxSanya's note: not sure if I wrote this correctly, it should be like "Woman-bodyguards rode horses, chariots and elephants while escorting Chandragupta on the hunting"). If they participated in a battle, then, probably, not unmounted as well. Sculpture from Amaravati dated 2nd century A.D. presents one of such women. This woman-warrior depicted semi-naked, her only weapon is a sword, hanged on the left side of the body with the strap thrown over the right shoulder. At the same time we know that women from the bodyguard detachment was excellent trained not only for sword play, but also for shooting with bow. Kautilya advised to appoint the detachment of women-archers for the king from the morning.

<Next part of the text is about much later time: years 1494-1535, 1795; and finally there is suspicious note that mastering of fighting with two swords is known Indian martial art named 'касарат' or 'касрат' - I don't see other mentions of those words in such context or any other references of using two swords.>

Image: Women-bodyguard. By sculpture from Amaravati (2nd century A.D.) and reconstruction by "Д. Хэд" (fcxSanya's note: not sure who is this, probably Duncan Head).

(another fcxSanya's note: nice image censorship )

War chariot, 1st century B.C.. Author's reconstruction. Painter V.V. Golubev.

Indian warriors, end of 4th century B.C. (according to Arrian).

War elephant, 1st century B.C.

Early India, 900-545 B.C. - Quadriga.

Early India, 900-545 B.C. - Cavalryman.

Kushans, 135 B.C. - 410 A.D. - Indian mercenary longbowman.

(fcxSanya's note: in the linked Wikipedia article the Kushan Empire dated to 1st-3rd centuries A.D.)

[lilstewie]

Btw, I don't know how accurate the turban the spearman and archer is wearing. I've never seen that before. It's mostly a hair knot and a turban.

Those look like some turbans from modern Arabia.

And the shoes the spearmen is wearing looks off too.

Turbans

Image from the folks that made the RTW mod called 270 B.C.

Edited August 19, 2012 by lilstewie

[Zeta1127]

On page 13 of this thread, I presented the best translation I could find for Edict Pillar of Ashoka.

In the Unit and Building Names thread, I pointed out several inconsistencies in the civ profiles.

[lilstewie]

Didarganj Yakshi

Men and women back then wore similar outfits it seems.

Some times a hair knot, variations of turban styles, and variations of the Dhoti.

Citizens worshipping(?) the Ashok Chakra?

First one is from the Satavahana dynasty, the last two are dated to the Sunga empire. Both successors of the Mauryans and carry on the Mauryan style in many ways.

Edited September 6, 2012 by lilstewie

[Mythos_Ruler]

That would actually be a cool unit for the Mauryans. There are no other female warriors in the game, except Boudicca, a hero(ine), so they would make an excellent addition. Problem is, we'd have to wait for new female body meshes and skeleton and animations.

[lilstewie]

^^^

Can you make it so they can use both bow and arrow and sword?

Edited August 19, 2012 by lilstewie

[MishFTW]

Can you make it so they can use both bow and arrow and sword?

yeah these female warriors would be neat.

[lilstewie]

This isn't Mauryan, but still good I think. Greek coins minted around the time of Alexanders campaign in N.W. India.

Edited August 20, 2012 by lilstewie