Nicolaus_von_Kues Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 21 hours ago, Thalatta said: (again, techs shouldn't be like that, but actual developments from the period). I agree with that. It should be something that exists to provide greater immersion. +++ On the other hand, I've considered training marines on ships, similar to how the Athenian marines already operate, but aside from some bonuses, I don't know how to make it work. http://amodelcastillo.blogspot.com/2018/03/la-armada-imperial-de-roma-rangos-y.html?m=1 Milites Classiarii for example. We also have the Nautae They are ordinary sailors; they too participated in the combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalatta Posted 37 minutes ago Share Posted 37 minutes ago 54 minutes ago, Nicolaus_von_Kues said: training marines on ships, similar to how the Athenian marines already operate Which is a huge misconception this game also incurs, as explained in Thoughts on the Athenians :P. That they were good at sea doesn't mean regarding their "marines", but their fast ramming ships used to disable enemy ones, which, ironically, needed to have the least amount possible of deck soldiers to be swift. Thus, not only there's nothing characteristic about them, but they didn't rely on them and used as few as possible (so having them as a "champion" Athenian unit is as misleading as it could be, and why I proposed the Tachunautousa Triērēs instead). The real secret of Athenian success at sea was not just how ships were lightly built, but their expert oarsmen, drawn mostly from the low thḗtēs class, who would train all their lives expecting to be good enough to be selected by some trierarch to man the oars of a navy vital for Athens, which brought them prestige, thus more leverage and participation, in their nascent democratic system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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