Greek Sculptures: Artemision Bronze, Discobolus

[nifa]

Artemision Bronze

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemision_Bronze

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/zeus-or-poseidon-from-the-artemision-d4876aa609304682945145debedfc77e

https://open.smk.dk/en/artwork/iiif/KAS2100?q=Poseidon eller Zeus fra Artemision&page=0&filters=has_3d_file%3Atrue

That statue showed either zeus or poseidon depending on the weapon in the hand, so I just made both. It was kind of difficult to find a representation for how the ancient greek imagined a thunderbolt, but I certainly didn't want some harry-potter-kind zigzag thunderbolt. I made two separate meshes, but we could also add the weapon as a prop if that's better. Both models can use the cover prop. I'm not sure about the colours though. I added eyeballs, so when we have the final colours I'd like to add this (with gimp?):

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The empty eye-sockets were originally inset, probably with bone, as well as the eyebrows (with silver), the lips, and the nipples (with copper).

@wowgetoffyourcellphone maybe you could have a look and tweak it a little? Also I just used a brightened diffuse as spec map for now, but I could bake something if needed.

poseidon_cover.dae statue_poseidon.dae

Edited December 9, 2024 by nifa

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

I think the trident would be balanced like a spear, so that his hand would be at roughly midpoint of the shaft. Also, can the modesty prop have wrinkles in it?  

[Lion.Kanzen]

Could we modify Athena to be Rome?

This is Roma or Rome the goddess.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roma_(personification)

[nifa]

looks better with more contrast on the uv map again. Is that the right position for the trident? I will see what I can do about the wrinkles

statue_poseidon.dae

[nifa]

next one, a well known:

Discobolus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discobolus

https://open.smk.dk/en/artwork/image/KAS1074?q=*&filters=has_3d_file%3Atrue&page=7

Including modesty prop again. @wowgetoffyourcellphone ready for commit? You might want to tweak contrast, brightness, saturation etc. again Could also make a new spec from the diffuse if you want the cover to be shiny too.

discobolus_cover.dae statue_discobolus.dae

[Lion.Kanzen]

Talking about Greek gods.

Seated Zeus may work not only for Zeus and Jupiter but also other king deities.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 9, 2024 by Lion.Kanzen

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

53 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

Talking about Greek gods.

Seated Zeus may work not only for Zeus and Jupiter but also other king deities.

 

 

 

 

Indeed, the seated Statue of Zeus at Olympia would be desired, as are all of the "Seven Wonders of the Ancient World."

 

@nifa

 

 

[Lion.Kanzen]

1 minute ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Indeed, the seated Statue of Zeus at Olympia would be desired, as are all of the "Seven Wonders of the Ancient World."

 

@nifa

 

 

The Zeus if modified could be Baal Hammon.

[Lion.Kanzen]

Another important statue is Mithras the cult of Roman soldiers.

This is already Greco-Persian syncretism.

He is a god who sacrifices to the sacred bull, an animal venerated throughout the Middle East.

[Lion.Kanzen]

https://www.worldhistory.org/Cybele/

Finally, another important syncretistic goddess is Cybele.

But I don't know which statue is better.

[Lion.Kanzen]

15 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

https://www.worldhistory.org/Cybele/

Finally, another important syncretistic goddess is Cybele.

But I don't know which statue is better.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis

Another related one with a gigantic cult is Artemis.The Wikipedia entry for her cult and festivities is extensive.

[Lion.Kanzen]

1 minute ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis

Another related one with a gigantic cult is Artemis.The Wikipedia entry for her cult and festivities is extensive.

There is no representative statue, the cult is very varied.

From the Greek point of view, the Ephesian Artemis is a distinctive form of their goddess Artemis. In Greek cult and myth, Artemis is the twin sister of Apollo, a virgin goddess of the hunt, the wilderness and the moon, who, despite being a goddess of childbirth was nevertheless known for her chastity. At Ephesus, a goddess whom the Greeks associated with Artemis was venerated in an archaic, pre-Hellenic cult image[47] that was carved of wood (a xoanon) and kept decorated with jewelry.

 

The features are most similar to Near-Eastern and Egyptian deities, and least similar to Greek ones. The body and legs are enclosed within a tapering pillar-like term, from which the goddess' feet protrude. On the coins minted at Ephesus, the goddess wears a mural crown (like a city's walls), an attribute of Cybele as a protector of cities (see polos).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Artemis

 

[nifa]

assets for discobolus including second uv layout and ao map, see here: https://gitea.wildfiregames.com/0ad/0ad/pulls/7315

discobolus_cover.dae statue_discobolus.dae

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

On 21/12/2024 at 4:52 PM, nifa said:

assets for discobolus including second uv layout and ao map, see here: https://gitea.wildfiregames.com/0ad/0ad/pulls/7315

discobolus_cover.dae 124.91 kB · 4 downloads statue_discobolus.dae 449.66 kB · 4 downloads

I'm confused. Discobolus in the game already has a working AO map.

Your new files (incorrect 2nd uv set  ):

 

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Discobolus already merged in SVN: 

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Just let me know what you want to do. Keep working on getting a 2nd uv, or just go with the one already in-game. 

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

2 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Sorry, I'd not updated SVN in a little bit, but I think I can fix this easily without a new model, etc.

 

[nifa]

4 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

I'm confused. Discobolus in the game already has a working AO map.

I think the cover mesh didn't have a second UV map, that was the reason why it crashed. And @Stan` wasn't happy with the uv layout so I made a new ao map with less black space and higher density. I found out remapping isn't that difficult, since I can bake from old uv layout to new uv layout without having to rebake all maps from hp to lp.

4 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Your new files (incorrect 2nd uv set  ):

works locally for me. Are you sure you are using both the two new meshes (cover and statue) and the new ao map?

[Outis]

These statues look amazing in thebgame but one question: wont they look even better on a pedestal?