feneur
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3 hours ago, Desophaeus said:
It's like holding onto a cookie inside a jar and not willing to let it go even though the hand is having a hard time getting out the jar's opening.
I would say it's more like a café keeping a type of cookie on the menu, even if it's similar to other cookies, and even though shelf space etc limits the number of different types of cookies. Is it a good idea or a bad idea? I'd say it depends on whether or not enough people like having access to that type of cookie. And the same applies to the factions in the game, do enough people like to have that variety in the Hellenistic factions? And is it possible for them to be different enough to make them interesting to play? I don't know, but as far as I can tell people do appreciate the variety they add to the Hellenes.
1 hour ago, sphyrth said:Inflexibility is just the temporary solution while the game is in Alpha. It's the team's firm decision not to add any faction until the game reaches Beta phase.
If anything it's the opposite I'd say, it's during the Alpha phase we can afford to be flexible. That said I would say that it is (i.e. at the moment, and depending on the people in the team and current opinions) the team's decision not to add any more factions for part one at all. But as with everything else it could change at a later date.
I do however think that it is a good idea to be very strict with changing things on this level, especially since we are getting close to Beta. If we remove factions people are going to get disappointed, work that has already been put into them will be wasted, and since all limits are at least somewhat arbitrary there is some merit to staying with the ones we already have decided upon. Otherwise where do we draw the line?
There has been plenty of arguments as to why the Iberians should be split up into at least two factions if not more. At the very least the author of Delenda Est has argued for adding another Hellenistic faction: the Thebans, and I do recall someone else arguing for having some other Hellenistic factions as well.
There are plenty of other factions which could be added, of them it's probably the Scythians which are the most interesting imho. It is impossible to make a perfect decision though (there will always be someone who is disappointed, and arguments as to why you should have made a different decision), so the question is where do you draw the line and say "these are the factions we are going to include". I think it's better to have the focus gained from not having to consider the question again, and again, even if it does mean that we might be missing out on some interesting factions.
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To me the main reason why we're keeping all these Hellenistic factions is to not throw away the work that's already been done. I personally would probably have preferred to have fewer Hellenistic factions, and perhaps add one or two others, but it's not really the matter what I or anyone else think personally. What matters is what makes sense for the game, and from a development point of view. To me it's hard to argue for adding more factions as it's a lot of work even maintaining the ones we have and make sure they are as interesting to play as they can, and will be as balanced as they can be. I still don't think it's a good way to go to remove factions we already have though. Both because that would mean that the work put into them would have been wasted, and because we have said that the game will include these civilizations. Sure sometimes you have to change things, and remove things, even though you have said they will be included, but to remove something just to add something else instead doesn't seem like a good way to go.
While I sometimes do use the word civilizations as well I prefer factions as the word civilization has some problematic connotations, i.e. is a group of people more or less civilized, or for that matter how do you define exactly what group of people is a civilization. A faction is simply a group that's been set apart as a unified group for this game, so it doesn't carry the same problems.
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What do you think it would add to the game?
As I see it it does have the good effect of being possible to intercept by the other players, which would add one more thing one could do to affect the outcome of the game. I do think it does at the very least have some things which would have to be thought through before adding though.
Using a trader would mean that you would not only be losing resources because you are giving them to someone, you would also lose the ability to use the trader to gain more resources during the time it's used to deliver the tribute. I think that would mean people are less likely to tribute resources, and if it's not used/rarely used I think that's an argument against it. Especially since it's something that can make e.g. a situation where one player is focused on by the enemies more fair/balanced as the allies can easily help by tributing resources, but if you would have to send traders through a battle-field to help out it would be a lot harder to do.
It also means that it's harder for a player who is just about to be defeated to send any remaining resources to their team mates, but I guess that could be seen as a good thing if you want matches to be over sooner/give bigger benefits to the winning team.
When giving tribute to an enemy it would give the added risk of someone else intercepting it etc, but I think it would add more angry players than benefits ("did you really send a tribute? you might be saying that you did, and that someone else destroyed it, but how would I know?" etc). Maybe it can be seen as an added dimension, but to me it seems like a lot of hassle, for a small added benefit.
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Selection is defined by a box as far as I know, and not really depending on the model or animation. At least that's the case for buildings, I'm not sure if it differs with units/animals.
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I've hidden three recent posts because they were unrelated to the topic, and if anything only could serve to cause conflict. If someone wants to be sure that others take their opinions/suggestions seriously I would advise to not bring up old conflicts but rather new ideas
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1 hour ago, buster987 said:
Not all maps allow this I think. I tried picking a map but didn't see a means to change the number of players at all. Maybe I'm looking right past it?
It's only for random maps, change the first dropdown list (Map type) to be random rather than scenario or skirmish (These maps are handmade, so they come with the players they were made to feature. Random maps are put together by the game from a script and based on the settings you choose, so they are more flexible.)
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1 hour ago, Zeta1127 said:
Isn't there also a sandbox mode for Petra that prevents the AI from doing much of anything?
Unless I'm mistaken that means that the AI will build up its civilization, but will not set out to attack you. Any units you send near it will still be attacked though.
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Just realized there is the option to, if you choose to play on a random map, choose to only have one player on the map, yourself.
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You can still destroy buildings, it's just not the default action because we want people to discover the capture mechanic
(Use Ctrl+click to attack rather than capture, and siege weapons will always destroy, also it's easier to capture a building when it's lower on health.)
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If you want to keep an opponent on the map to fight eventually you can set the AI difficulty to Sandbox (then it will not attack you). I think you could do that, and then set the victory condition to Wonder and you could still win the game when you want without having to fight (though I'm not 100% sure the AI won't build a wonder eventually, someone else will have to tell you about that).
If you just want to build and don't worry about another player (and don't care about winning after you've built up your civilization), just use the developer controls (Alt+D to bring up), select Reveal Map, then Control all units, and then delete all the opponents units. That will give you a win dialog, but you can just select no and continue building as much as you like (I don't know how well it works with saved games, but at least for a single play session it should work fine, and there's no harm in testing -- apart from lost time I guess).
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15 minutes ago, gameboy said:
Today, I used this mod and found that the mod is not available in the latest version of 0 A.D.（0 A.D. Alpha 21 Ulysses）,When this MOD is used to load the game, the game has an error message. please update this MOD.
Are you using the version from this thread? Because if so it shouldn't be expected to work as it's for the Alpha 17 version of 0 A.D.
The version in
is the one which is supposed to work with Alpha 21 of 0 A.D.
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2 hours ago, Grugnas said:
MADNESS?? This is Sparta!
I really doubt we can use this as it most likely is distinct enough to be copyrighted. Better to do something unique anyway
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I would have to agree with @wowgetoffyourcellphone, if I remember correctly that area is where the most pyramids in the world are to be found, so that would be really nice to both highlight (to teach people) and make them stand out from the other civilizations.
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16 hours ago, Imarok said:
I think the main cause for that is, that (at the moment) you cannot set such build restriction. The only possible Build restriction is: The player should not be allowed to build more than x of entity with type "foo".
Shouldn't it be possible to do via techs though? I.e. you have to make the choice to research "Send embassy to x civ" and "Send embassy to y civ" techs before you can build the buildings, then they could have no limits for the amount of buildings.
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I might have missed it as I haven't read this thread very closely, but what is it that makes the Kushites special from a game play perspective?
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1 hour ago, balduin said:
@feneur the buildings are the easiest part, because we have a lot of archaeological evidence. I am pretty sure we need more topics for units. At least about naval units and infantry/cavalry units. However, I prefer to start topics which are specific to a building or units. Instead of having one big topic about all buildings or units.
Right now I would like to start a topics about the fishing boat / boats, the market place, archery, cavalry and basic units.
Furthermore, over the time it will be necessary to talk about programming, technology, bugs and announcements.
In short I would be surprised if we have less than 10 topics in a Kushites Mod subforum till the end of this year.
It's up to you what you do, though I don't really think it would be necessary to have individual topics for each. I do prefer to create a forum once there is a need for it though and not beforehand, so I suggest you begin to create some relevant topics and once there's enough discussion/activity it's easy to create a new forum and move topics there.
I do suggest you use "Kush" rather than the full "Kushites" in the title though, mostly so that it doesn't take up so much space in the title, but I would assume that will be the short-hand version of it in e.g. template names etc anyway, so probably useful to start getting used to it
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2 hours ago, niektb said:
It certainly can be done, it's easy enough. I am a bit reluctant to create a forum for just three topics though (this + one for buildings and one for units). If there is a need for more than say five-six topics I think creating a new forum is a good idea, but at this point it does seem unnecessary.
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We use Transifex (https://www.transifex.com/wildfire-games/0ad/dashboard/ ) for translation, so it's probably better to suggest the change there. I'm not sure, but I think that there are plenty of translators who don't visit the forum at all.
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I'd say there are two things to consider here:
First: as Lion says people are more likely to do what they enjoy doing, and while it's not always as effective short-term it can bring benefits long-term as we can't pay people so there needs to be some other motivation.
Second: Not everyone has the skills to do everything, so sometimes there might not be official tasks which fit someone's expertise, but a mod/own idea might provide something one can do.
In this specific case I think it's far more likely that Johnathan and Enrique just forgot about it though
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There is the button next to the minimap
You can also change the keyboard shortcut to be able to use this feature with another key, please see http://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/Manual_Settings#KeyboardShortcuts for more information. There might be something more in play in this case though as you say that the Period key doesn't work, but someone else would have to help out with more knowledge. Changing the shortcut key might be something to try in any case though, at least for the time being.
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Either you click the Start new topic text when you are watching an existing thread:
or when you are viewing a forum you click the Start new topic button at the top of the page:
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(Split this out into it's own topic
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I would assume he means that he wants to be able to jump backwards and forwards in time in the replays. Whether it's feasible to add a full timeline or maybe some way to jump say a couple of minutes back and forth will have to be seen, as far as I remember when it was last discussed it sounded like it was quite difficult as the game needs to basically recalculate everything when you move back or forth in time. So something might be included, but as far as I know it's difficult.
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I split this into its own topic as it wasn't related to screenshots, and deleted Lion's comment as it's no longer relevant now (but thanks).
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More Factions Please!
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Well, the important part in reply to your comment was that if something as big as adding a new civilization is done it should not be done during the Beta phase but before it. I guess it would be one thing to add a well-developed faction from a mod in one of the first Beta releases, but certainly not to add a completely new faction during the Beta phase, and even if it's already developed in mod form I don't think it would be a good idea to add something during the Beta phase at all.