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Germanic Faction Document. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v98abwbY1bRMR4AOpM3yTAbWLcPj676B5JdoQsHk77w/edit?usp=sharing Mix early Faction (Suebi with Later Alemanni)
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Sakutones/Skeudjonez(Sweboz long bow infantry) The Germanic archer infantry is a lightly armed skirmisher troop type whose sole purpose is to harass, wound and possibly kill enemy warriors from a safe distance. This unit is only armed with a long bow made of yew + a selection of arrows which were mostly bone/antler arrow heads but also some with fire-hardened arrow heads and simple broad headed iron arrow heads. These arrows would be carried around and protected by a simple arrow quiver made of wood, birch bark or leather. The Germanic archer only close combat weapon is a low quality hunting knife. This unit type represents the lowest strata of the Sweboz society and because they are not full members of the tribe they are not allowed to use a shield and spear which where the symbols of a free men in early Germanic society. His low status is also reflected in the simple clothings this unit wears. This unit is only really effective as a skirmish unit and maybe to chase routing enemy warriors. Historically, the Germanics only started to use archer in significant numbers during the latter part of the Roman Iron age but there is some evidence that Germanic tribes sometimes used bow and arrow as a weapon of war and not only for hunting. For example the Vædebro weapons sacrifice in Denmark feature a broken arrow shaft among the more standard weapons found at that site. Gaisofluxo Frijot, are infact the most common troop type of the Sweboz. They are the freeman backbone of the Sweboz tribal groups. Only armed with simple simple bone and/or iron tipped spearheads and only protected by a simple wooden or wicker shield this unit is not very well equipped but what they lack in equipment they make up in experience and eagerness. Though lacking in the organized training of the war bands that serve in a more regular capacity, these men are veterans of the ritualized tribal warfare within the amalgamation of German tribes, and fight with a force and fury superior to their neighbors militia. This may be the last elite militia level for 0ad.
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(Tribal) African minifaction(s) (research and concept thread)
Lion.Kanzen replied to Unarmed's topic in General Discussion
l Is suppose to be the mini faction have a settlement in some maps like skirmish and scenario. -
interesting info to mod and developers to know when programming. Thank you.
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The Dugunthiz (the "Trusted" or "Capable" ones) is a unit of proud and experienced, "proven" warriors steeled by years of constant warfare and veterans of numerous conflicts, mostly tribal, but some of a larger scale. These men are hardened for battle and unlikely to flee from conflict, and are trained through long experience to work in close or open formation, and even the shield wall. The early Dugunthiz is armed with a various selection of spears and javelins most would have a metal spear heads but a few bone spearheads are also still used. The sub-rectangular shield like the ones found at Hjortspring is the Dugunthiz only way of defense. Historically, the Jugunthiz (Youth) formed the front line of battle in order to act as a screen, taking losses to increase the odds of survival for more valuable "proven" warriors (Dugunthiz) who stood just behind. The Dugunthiz formed the bulk of any Germanic force and were very versatile warriors. They were renowned for their courage in melee combat and have earned their place through consummate skill with their well accustomed gaizaz (spear). Their weapon is a mark of freedom and honor, the gaizaz has a narrow and short head, so sharp and easy to wield that the same weapon served, depending on the circumstances, for both close quarter and long range combat. I found this... Interesting not? Source. http://www.deviantart.com/morelikethis/artists/303725547
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(Tribal) African minifaction(s) (research and concept thread)
Lion.Kanzen replied to Unarmed's topic in General Discussion
First we need a settlement of each civilization. And civilization and faction is not same. acorddibg with Micheal Hafer. the Lead. now if are a group of artist or Programmer that wants to Contribute do it many things of this... you must feel free to start, is a long way to bring this feature. -
(Tribal) African minifaction(s) (research and concept thread)
Lion.Kanzen replied to Unarmed's topic in General Discussion
We need new AiMinifactionUnits.js to promming the behavior new whole diplomacy levels to use Ai diplomacy new Art new Gameplat etc. -
Nice. But should be more nice paste the info here. And source of course after.
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The files are case sensitive?
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Augustus? Are a statue similar with Trajan.
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===[COMMITTED]=== Town Bell icons and sounds
Lion.Kanzen replied to Itms's topic in Completed Art Tasks
I considerate the horn but, with notification attack can be some weird. And drumb? ....I don't know is highly need investigate. I found this: History[edit] Bianzhong of Marquis Yi of Zeng, dated 433 BC. The earliest archaeological evidence of bells dates from 3rd millennium BC, and is traced to the Yangshao culture of Neolithic China.[2] Clapper-bells made of pottery have been found in several archaeological sites.[3] The pottery bells later developed into metal bells. In West Asia, the first bells appear in 1000 BC.[2] The earliest metal bells, with one found in the Taosi site, and four in the Erlitou site, are dated to about 2000 BC.[4] Early bells not only have an important role in generating metal sound, but arguably played a prominent cultural role. With the emergence of other kinds of bells during the Shang Dynasty (c. 1600 c. 1050 BC), they were relegated to subservient functions; at Shang and Zhou sites, they are also found as part of the horse-and-chariot gear and as collar-bells of dogs.[5] So in West? Spanish Wikipedia in English haven't this part. Las campanas, ya conocidas de los pueblos egipcios y asiáticos en forma de campanillas y usadas también por los griegos y los romanos, fueron adoptadas por la Iglesia católica para convocar a los fieles por lo menos desde el siglo V. Los romanos les dieron el nombre de tintinábula y los cristianos las llamaron signum porque servían para señalar o avisar la hora de las reuniones. Pero ya en el siglo VII, si no antes, se llamaban campanas, como consta por escritores de la época. En aquellos primeros siglos, debieron ser las campanas de reducido tamaño, según parece por las que han llegado hasta nosotros y por ciertas referencias de los historiadores. Tintinabula are bell in Latin so I put in google tintinabula + roman+ bell and found this. http://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryoftheworld/objects/6fv_Wy9sT-CXd8Jb8WxJBw Here is English article. This rare bell, one of the largest known from the Roman world was discovered by Leslie Alcock,OBE.,FRHS whilst he was excavating Castell Collen, a Roman fort near Llandrindod Wells. Castell Collen was built by Julius Frontinus in the Flavian period and housed both foot and cavalry soldiers and underwent several re-builds during its lifetime. It was abandoned by the Roman Army in the early 4th century, when it was recalled to defend Rome The artefacts from the excavation are on permanent display in the Radnorshire Museum and include some rare glass and castor ware cups from the Commandant's house and, small items found in the latrine. -
(Tribal) African minifaction(s) (research and concept thread)
Lion.Kanzen replied to Unarmed's topic in General Discussion
Is too soon to considerate the factions, with Rome 2 they bring many mini faction or sub faction to the light of player can be make an idea how diverse was the Hellenistic times. -
Have none territory/borders an option? Free build everywhere?
Lion.Kanzen replied to LionKing's topic in General Discussion
If you try play against Qbot, can be a disaster. Can be a mega rush. But you can survive, but can hard to defense, the Ai like build fortress in everyplace. -
Huns minor? They are the tribe to do those tribes suddenly shock with Romans, destroyed Gupta Empire and Kushans in India and Afghanistan. The highly priority is Rome and first conflicts against Parthia, later came go Germans with Cimbri and Teutons. Later the Franks and Dacia. But the Huns need whole new gameplay. The Besieger and raze gameplay, consistent in mobile structures ,like AOE 3 and Terran Starcfraft, they move buildings and try to settle in rich land with good food.
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===[COMMITTED]=== Town Bell icons and sounds
Lion.Kanzen replied to Itms's topic in Completed Art Tasks
Three level why?, and remember try to females uses civic center and temples and soldiers uses towers turrets, outpost and fortress . This I order to improves defenses against a raze or rush. Today I was put in test against Qbot and was hard game, but I finish easily the Ptolemies have siege powerful warfare. -
Huns, Sarmatians and Parthians. And obviusly three Roman factions imperial Romans with the late Western and eastern Roman Empire. And Sarmatians have many other. And Huns too.
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Crowd-Sourced Civ: Ptolemaic Egyptians (Ptolemies)
Lion.Kanzen replied to Mythos_Ruler's topic in Official tasks
Now is free the cost of houses? And is planned the romanized infantry? The silver shields ( Macedon)today I almost my Ptolemies, was with Qbot was an Syrian Random map, even Galatians are not match for Silver Shields Hyspapist. But I can defeat I an counterattack ( first time I do a effective counter attack and success in first assault) With Ptolemies I defeat the Persians, Iberians and the Mauryans. But Macedon gives me to a lesson. But may be my mistake was not try to populate with Pezhetaroi, but as been defeated easily. Be need maybe Technology for Galstians are too Expensive. -
(Germans)Suebi, Saxons, Vandals, Goths. Considerate (Franks as Frisi ) and Suebi and Alemanni the same.
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Haha interesting for Coldplay? I just kidding but impressive info. Help me to finding the Germanic names for the units.
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But if is most ancient that we can use.
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You must use svn and do it new skirmish maps. Is the newest feature for the game. Skirmish map is a map like a scenario but with rms features like random civ, max population settings.
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The Alemanni were first mentioned by Cassius Dio describing the campaign of Caracalla in 213. At that time they apparently dwelt in the basin of the Main, to the south of the Chatti. Cassius Dio (78.13.4) portrays the Alemanni as victims of this treacherous emperor.[5] They had asked for his help, says Dio, but instead he colonized their country, changed their place names and executed their warriors under a pretext of coming to their aid. When he became ill, the Alemanni claimed to have put a hex on him (78.15.2). Caracalla, it was claimed, tried to counter this influence by invoking his ancestral spirits. In retribution Caracalla then led the Legio II Traiana Fortis against the Alemanni, who lost and were pacified for a time. The legion was as a result honored with the name Germanica. The 4th-century fictional Historia Augusta, Life of Antoninus Caracalla, relates (10.5) that Caracalla then assumed the name Alemannicus, at which Helvius Pertinax jested that he should really be called Geticus Maximus, because in the year before he had murdered his brother, Geta.[6] Not on good terms with Caracalla, Geta had been invited to a family reconciliation, at which time he was ambushed by centurions in Caracalla's army and slain in his mother Julia's arms. True or not, Caracalla, pursued by devils of his own, left Rome never to return. Caracalla left for the frontier, where for the rest of his short reign he was known for his unpredictable and arbitrary operations launched by surprise after a pretext of peace negotiations. If he had any reasons of state for such actions they remained unknown to his contemporaries. Whether or not the Alemanni had been previously neutral, they were certainly further influenced by Caracalla to become thereafter notoriously implacable enemies of Rome. This mutually antagonistic relationship is perhaps the reason why the Roman writers persisted in calling the Alemanni barbari, "savages". The archaeology, however, shows that they were largely Romanized, lived in Roman-style houses and used Roman artifacts, the Alemannic women having adopted the Roman fashion of the tunic even earlier than the men. Most of the Alemanni were probably at the time in fact resident in or close to the borders of Germania Superior. Although Dio is the earliest writer to mention them, Ammianus Marcellinus used the name to refer to Germans on the Limes Germanicus in the time of Trajan's governorship of the province shortly after it was formed, c. 98/99. At that time the entire frontier was being fortified for the first time. Trees from the earliest fortifications found in Germania Inferior are dated by dendrochronology to 99/100. Shortly afterwards Trajan was chosen by Nerva to be his successor, adopted with public fanfare in absentia by the old man shortly before his death. By 100 Trajan was back in Rome as Emperor instead of merely being a Consul. Ammianus relates (xvii.1.11) that much later the Emperor Julian undertook a punitive expedition against the Alemanni, who by then were in Alsace, and crossed the Main (Latin Menus), entering the forest, where the trails were blocked by felled trees. As winter was upon them, they reoccupied a "fortification which was founded on the soil of the Alemanni that Trajan wished to be called with his own name".[7] In this context the use of Alemanni is possibly an anachronism but it reveals that Ammianus believed they were the same people, which is consistent with the location of the Alemanni of Caracalla's campaigns. Invasions In 259/60, a group of Suebi appear to have been the main element in the formation of a new tribal alliance known as the Alamanni who came to occupy the Roman frontier region known as the Agri Decumates, east of the Rhine and south of the Main. The Alamanni were sometimes simply referred to as Suebi by contemporaries, and the region came to be known as Swabia - a name which survives to this day. People in this region of Germany are still called Schwaben, a name derived from the Suebi. These Suebi for the most part stayed on the right bank of the Rhine until December 31 406, when much of the tribe joined the Vandals and Alans in breaching the Roman frontier by crossing the Rhine, perhaps at Mainz, thus launching an invasion of northern Gaul.
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Aestii Estonians The Estonians had been settled in the Baltic region since prehistory, and at that time their territory and that of the Livonians, also a finno-ugrit people, stretched much further south. Other source : this repetitive I know, but are different sources. Alamanni The Alamanni ("all men") were an Elbe-German tribal confederacy that emerged on the upper Main in the 3rd century, apparently developing from a core group of Semnones migrants from the Elbe- Havel region. They were known as the Sueben (Swabians) to their neighbors, and c. 260 they crossed the Roman limes and settled in the upper Rhine-Lake Constance area, moving after the 5th century also into what is today Switzerland and Alsace. In 496/7 they fell under the rule of the Franks, but nevertheless maintained their tribal leaders. The current practice of differentiating between Alamanni and Swabians first appeared in 1803 and has no historical foundation other than the differing nationalist views of the inhabitants of Baden and of Baden and Württemberg. COMPOSITE BOW or reflexed bow From varying layers of wood, horn and sinews the Huns built an extremely elastic bow, from which even iron arrows could be shot. An accomplished Hun horseman could loose up to 20 arrows a minute at a full gallop with this 60 cm long bow. In order to draw the bowstring it had to be hooked over an iron ring worn on the thumb, and the resulting arrow flight reached 500 meters. This long distance weapon and its attendant tactics were later also brought to Europe by the Avars and Hungarians, as well as by the Mongols in the 13th century. Similar, but weaker, bows had already been used by the Parthians and other Iranian peoples long before the Huns, and the Lombards and a few other Germanic tribes also used the composite bow, though they did not manufacture them themselves. (The manufacture of a composite bow required severalyears.) In Europe, however, the composite bow gave way to the simple wood bow, which could be used by foot soldiers, while cavalry favored combat with sword and lance. In part this was due to the fact that the composite bow could only be used in dry weather, since high humidity would cause the bowstring to become slack. http://www.ghkuhlmann.de/kureng/glossary.html
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This source are good to understand this civ. http://www.protogermanic.com Notice the horns (*Wodanaz- "Odin/Woden/Wuotan"-was usually depicted with Horns from the Nordic Bronze-Age to the Migration-Age), spear (one of the main symbols of *Wóðinaz was his spear that was cut from the worldtree) and noose (another of his major symbols). Notice also the similarities between Germanic and Celtic art in the earlier eras.
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Alemanni, also spelled Alamanni, or Alamani, a Germanic people first mentioned in connection with the Roman attack on them in ad 213. In the following decades, their pressure on the Roman provinces became severe; they occupied the Agri Decumates c. 260, and late in the 5th century they expanded into Alsace and northern Switzerland, establishing the German language in those regions. In 496 they were conquered by Clovis and incorporated into his Frankish dominions. The Alemanni were originally composed of fragments of several Germanic peoples, and they remained a loosely knit confederation of tribes in the Suebi group (see Suebi). Although several tribes put their military forces under the joint command of two leaders for the duration of a campaign, the different peoples generally found it difficult to combine, and they had nothing that could be called a central government. The French and Spanish words for Germany (Allemagne; Alemania) are derived from their name.