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Tonto_Icy_Tripod

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  1. Basically, if the sun doesn't rise, there will be no tomorrow. So if there is a tomorrow, the sun will rise, have risen, or something like that. If the sun doesn't rise, then the day/night cycle will be so out of order that thinking in terms of today and tomorrow will seem weird at best.

    Skipping that stuff, I'm convinced by what I've learned during my life (stuff like physics, chemistry and such). Might not be empirical evidence or even correct, but it's convinced me to the extent that it's more than something I take for granted. It's something I can't really imagine not happening.

  2. How about adding some fans/massive heatsinks/watercooling to Sphere's comp. You'd be able to overclock it to reallly uberspeed.

    Or you could just get an 8-way opteron system. The bad part is the registered DIMMs, but I'm not sure about the gaming capacity of opterons either. Anyone know if they're any good?

  3. Then a simple "why" is in order don't you think?

    While ClodHopper'slast statement is partly true, it sure isn't the entire truth. If it was, then you'd have a point, but as Klaas pointed out, welfare is about much more than that...

  4. I think it comes down to an understanding of human nature. Humans are primarily good people (for you Christians, the Bible says "man was created in the image of God"- proof that we're good right there for some) but they have an instinct many like to call "self-preservation". THere is a boundary between natural self preservation and greedy self preservation, self preservation in itself is not a bad thing. Capitalism plays on this instinct, and why is capitalism so successful? It is based on human INSTINCT. People work to keep themselves alive and well. Sometimes more than that too, that's when self preservation turns into greed. But nevertheless that is why I see capitalism as natural.

    I agree with that. But why shouldn't taxes be able to take some (not all of course) of the too much part (bolded) and use it to help others? Right, I should be able to phrase that a lot better, but it's just not working for me now, so you'll have to live with that :)

    My point being that almost everyone today has so much more than they need that I have trouble seeing why these same people won't give a little to people who actually need it. I'm just repeating myself now though, and I'm practically out of arguments and just trying to preach morals which I know I suck at, so I'll just stop...

  5. But within the confines of a microcosm, like Earth, or a country, one CAN go against a defined nature - see what I am getting at?

    But you consider nature as defined, whereas I would consider nature something that is defined by our actions. Hence welfare doesn't have to fit into nature, but rather nature has to make sure welfare fits... That's a matter of perspective of course, but this is more on a philosophical level than what I imagine this thread was originally about?

  6. Depends. It's more like the strong taking care of the weak methinks. However, that ideal might not follow through into adulthood for some species.

    Trying to get back to the welfare issue specifically (or rather, the version that we started out with, since I'm not so much for all this philosophic stuff :)), I think we all agree that welfare is good in theory (as in, using tax money to help out the poor. This can be in any way or shape, home-less shelters, money, programs, etc). The problem comes in implementing it and avoiding abuse. If we all agree on that, then I think the real issue we have is whether we trust the respective governments to actually make it work (better), rather than if welfare is good or bad...

  7. welfare goes directly against the laws of nature

    You'll have to define "laws of nature" first for such a statement. If you're talking about survival of the fittest, then I don't see where you're coming from. That whole principle is about being the most suitable for the available conditions. Humans have always changed those conditions by building houses, using tools, etc. Why can't welfare be seen as the same manner of changing conditions?

  8. Norway and Sweden have the highest living standard in the world I believe. Norway has oil which of course helps, but for Sweden that comes from welfare. To me that just shows what great effects welfare can have. Of course we pay for it (supposedly we have the highest taxes in the world, but I've never seen any stats on that, so feel free to correct me), but personally I think it's a fair price. It's not like we can't live well even with those taxes.

    Why don't you want to pay those extra dollars to help someone else. If you look at how much you pay for the miiltary or something else the government pays for and compare with welfare I don't think it's too much in any way... That of course brings us back to Curu's post.

  9. I'm underage as well, though if I could have voted I'd vote for "moderaterna", which is basically our rightwing party. They're one of the parties that are positive to the EU, and have ideas about what to do to combat certain issues, instead of just noting that there are issues...

  10. Or that apes will take over the world (planet of the apes anyone?)... Why are sci-fi stories so pessimistic anyways? (Don't answer :yiepie:)

    Feel free to imagine the silicon in any form you want it to be Curu :D I'm not gonna stop you :banana:

  11. you're not really attracted to houses normally

    Oh, never say never my Swedish friend, you might get over a guy who has tryied to, hrhm, do something with a house? lol :yiepie:

    Ah, but then you're getting over the guy who were attracted to, not the house. :banana:

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