Aeros Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 I'll point out that in the Scenario Editor, there won't be anything stopping you from doing a little designing/editing to make some female warriors or warrior dudettes of your own for a scenario or campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawen Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 OOOOOOO :P Nice, gonna do that. Good that It is possible to have some female warriors, if not in the main story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paal_101 Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Anything is possible in modding land! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argalius Posted November 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 All very vague:Cheezy's right. Female Citizens have an expanded role in 0 A.D. relevent to the historical time period. Male Citizens and Warriors are also quite a bit different than what you are used to in an historical RTS. I won't devulge the details, so I'll leave it at that.Hehe, I think it would be an insult or atleast an easy break if we make women villagers gather 10% faster or male villagers carry 10% more or something like that, no the difference between them isn't in their statistics but in their role in the game. I'll let you speculate on what that means.Very clear:She will be the one tending farms and gathering berries. She'll also "empower" the male units around her to work harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassius Allanus Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 4)My conclusion is that the berserkergang was self-induced, a form of religious ecstasy. My reasons for this conclusion are several. First of all, Egil's Saga (as well as other sources) speak of the gangr as something that could come upon a berserk unexpectedly. Fabing cites sources that claim it could be brought about by laborious work. The Byzantine emperor Constantine VII refers to the "Gothic dance" of his Varangian Guard, which was ceremonial in nature and involved dressing in animal skins. (While it is not recorded whether the Varangian Guard were berserks - a term Constantine would not have known - they certainly are described in a similar manner.) In a similar vein, artifacts such as the Torslunda plate show Odin dancing with animal-skinned warriors. In the Volsunga Saga Sigmundr (chosen of Odin) and his son Sinfjolti put on wolf-skins and become nearly invincible. Berserks are described as leaping about before battle, or pacing like a caged animal, or biting upon their shields. Statues that may be of berserks show the warriors pulling strongly upon their beards (which is rather painful, to all you non-bearded persons). The thing each of these last examples have in common is that they would all tend to induce high adrenaline states, either through pain or through exertion, which is certainly consistent with descriptions as a cause of the gangr. And lastly the berserkergang is a phenomenon that is hardly unique to the vikings. The Greek maenads, female devotees of Dionysos, are described in a virtually identical manner (and yes, they were fighters according to legends of the wars in India). The Celtic Heroic Feats, practiced by such warrior bands as the Feanna, seems also identical. I might also mention the leopard-men of Africa, the wolf-warriors of the ancient Middle East, and possibly the Indonesian "Running Amok". And in many of these other cultures these practices are spoken of as something self-induced.From Uppsala - BerserkergangHow about the Greek maenads then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Ultor Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 I don't think they really represent the Hellenic civilization as a whole, or any of the three seperate factions I've heard mentioned for the Greeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paal_101 Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 No crazed drunk followers of Bacchus in here They would not fit the Athenians, Spartans, or Macedonians in anyway. But like we said before, there are mods although that one could be end up being unsupported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Ultor Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Not to disparage beraged, angry, drunken, Greek women in religious ecstasy, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassius Allanus Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Angry women are definitely something to be afraid of If the Hellenes had them in the game, they'd always win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Actually, I think the Hellenes male units would defect to the enemy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassius Allanus Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 That works just fine for me, as I'll be using Romans most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paal_101 Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 For sure, those maenads would be pretty nasty fighters, didn't they tear one Greek king apart in an ancient play or something when he tried to stop them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion_13 Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 WE sahould make them a secret bonus unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paal_101 Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Oh!! Maened cheat code Unlock the power of drunk Greeks of the feminine persuasion. *Leonidas is killed ingame while still laughing*Or give the Persians a Scythian archer who just came out of the smoke tent, where they would throw a plant related to marijuana on the fire and breath deep :P Herodotus has lots of these little tidbits about elicit drug use LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion_13 Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Im not sure how accurate one of those archers would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Giant Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Likely not too accurate... probably he'd be seeing purple rabits and flying elephants all over the place and try to shoot at them I like the Maenad cheat idea... although they might be of little use against the might legions of Rome - who were used to simply cut down anything that opposed them, no matter wheter man or woman (some Germanic women had to experience this when their men had lost the battle at Vercallae and they had to make their last stand in their camp)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Legions smegions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion_13 Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Yeah if legions can fall to germans (remember varius) then they're certainly not all powerful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Ultor Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Umm...historically, didn't the Roman legions defeat the Phalanx? Maybe there's more to it than that. But if both sides used their troops to the best extent, the mobile legions would be able to defeat the Hoplites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion_13 Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 huh who mentioned hoplites?Maybe but in RTW I have seen phalanx units decimate forces of romans if used corrctly wuth appriate backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Ultor Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 I'm almost entirely certain that you, Centurion, or someone else had mentioned something to the effect of:"Hoplites could #$%## Legions, if used correctly." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion_13 Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Well I dont see it anywhere nowEDIT: oh yeah I think I deleted my post when I decided that I may be wrong.Although I still think a bit if the romans attack greece in their prime especially if the greeks were united they could have beaten roman legionaires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Guys, Hannibal used the phalanx and the last time I checked he whipped the Romans plenty of times - on their home turf even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Giant Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 ... only to get cut to pieces at Zama lateron Whichever way you look at it, an army always is only as good as its commander, even if it outnumbers the enemy or is technically superior. Also, Hannibal fought against Pre-Marian legionaries (so did the Greeks), and the Roman Army (IMO) got considerably stronger after the Marian reforms. And the Varian disaster took place due to the commander being a credulous man with no knowledge of the terrain and the people of Germania. It wasn't the common soldiers who caused the loss of the battle, and not the lower officiers of the Centurionate, it was the high command. (That's just my opinion, though ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argalius Posted December 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 *looks at topic title* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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