Civ: Germans (Cimbri, Suebians, Goths)

[real_tabasco_sauce]

1 hour ago, Genava55 said:

If we accept the rock art is sufficient enough evidence, we must at least accept it is a minority of the boats. Most don't have sails.

fish and scout ships can be rowed only. Merchant and maybe arrow ships get a sail.

[Genava55]

1 minute ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

fish and scout ships can be rowed only. Merchant and maybe arrow ships get a sail.

Ok.

15 minutes ago, Obskiuras said:

We can do both, one without sails and one with sails. The one with sails it would be arrow ship and the other would be ramming ship.

I don't think a ramming ship is mandatory

[Genava55]

On 01/04/2025 at 4:36 AM, Obskiuras said:

Not really, i found some images that is supose to be germanic wolf warrior...

 

So what's the plan about it?

[Obskiuras]

1 hour ago, Genava55 said:

So what's the plan about it?

Historical accuracy is important, so i'll leave up to you.

[Genava55]

7 hours ago, Obskiuras said:

Historical accuracy is important, so i'll leave up to you.

I don't think there was a specific troop wearing wolf skin and wolf head. Tacitus, Cassius Dio and Caesar don't mention it. The only place with a depiction of a sort of warriors wearing such items is on the Trajan column, but it is unclear if those are Germans or not. Those men are Roman auxiliaries in full armor, while the actual Germans fighting in front of them with their native weapons are bareheaded. Furthermore the current design is focusing on the Cimbri and pre-roman period. The berserkir/ulfhednar is mostly attested during the viking and post-viking period, in the Norse mythology and Norse laws. And nothing suggest they were a specific battle unit.

So for the moment, leave them aside.

Edited 15 hours ago by Genava55

[Obskiuras]

8 hours ago, Genava55 said:

I don't think there was a specific troop wearing wolf skin and wolf head. Tacitus, Cassius Dio and Caesar don't mention it. The only place with a depiction of a sort of warriors wearing such items is on the Trajan column, but it is unclear if those are Germans or not. Those men are Roman auxiliaries in full armor, while the actual Germans fighting in front of them with their native weapons are bareheaded. Furthermore the current design is focusing on the Cimbri and pre-roman period. The berserkir/ulfhednar is mostly attested during the viking and post-viking period, in the Norse mythology and Norse laws. And nothing suggest they were a specific battle unit.

So for the moment, leave them aside.

I agree.

[real_tabasco_sauce]

Ok @Genava55 do you have a possible idea for a raiding type unit? The gameplay design is somewhat focused on infantry mobility, so a faster, lightly armored, infantry unit is needed to replace the wolf warrior.

i suppose we could go fairly generic and call it Crimbri raider or something.

[Deicide4u]

@real_tabasco_sauce An bare-chested Axeman that deals hack and crush damage? You couldn't be more generic than that, but they are barbarians, after all.

[Genava55]

 

2 hours ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

Ok @Genava55 do you have a possible idea for a raiding type unit? The gameplay design is somewhat focused on infantry mobility, so a faster, lightly armored, infantry unit is needed to replace the wolf warrior.

i suppose we could go fairly generic and call it Crimbri raider or something.

Cimbri/Teutones/Ambrones raiders could work. Marauders too.

Otherwise, axemen, clubmen... It is possible for some of them to have a bear skin as a cloak, just avoid the bear head.

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