Radagast. Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Please open a topic if you work on something. This topic then will be linked here and striked through once finished.(Civilization)==TASK== Generic: Specific name (Faction)Post below if there are any things you would love to see.Eras / Civilization Variants to model: source: http://www.jref.com/japan/history/Jōmon jidai (縄文時代, ca. 11000..300BCE).Hunter gatherer.Yayoi jidai (弥生時代, ca. 300BCE..300AD).Wet-rice agriculture and the use of bronze and iron first appeared in Japan.Yamato jidai (250AD..710 source see above link).Description.Kofun jidai (古墳時代, 250..538AD) <-- ca. 250 years.Asuka jidai (550..710) <-- 160 years, less in other sources. Let's create art for Yamato as a whole instead (with only few special buildings for Kofun and Asuka sub-sub-variants).Heian jidai (平安時代, 794..1185). <-- 400 yearsDescription.Kamakura (1185..1333) . <-- 248 yearsMuromachi (1338..1573), <-- 235 yearsEdo jidai (1603..1867). <-- 264 yearsDescription.Meiji Era (明治時代)Showa period (1926..1989) <-- required for WWI + IIDescription.Note: If no more significant/longer existing variant/dynasty comes short before or after a minor civilization faction then we can create art, otherwise we should avoid it. Though there might be special buildings and units which we could create if worth it. 3Dgeneric - japanese__structure__filenameNatives [1] (土人 / Ainu Hep) - japanese__structure__nativesJōmon:Civil Center - japanese__jomon__civil_center Yayoi:Civil Center - japanese__yayoi__civil_center Yamato:Civil Center - japanese__heian__civil_center (can Yamoto civil center be reused or was it distinct?)Heian:Civil Center [1][2] (/) - japanese__heian__civil_center (can Yamoto civil center be reused or was it distinct?)Guard Tower [1] (/) - japanese__heian__guard_towerOutpost [1] - japanese__heian__outpostHouses [1] (/) - japanese__heian__house_b, (Have common buildings changed since Yamato dynasty?)Temple - japanese__heian__temple,...Muromachi/Kamakura:Civil Center [1]Training place / Elite baracks [1][2] (道場 / dōjō) - japanese__late_medieval__baracks_eliteEdo:Civil Center - japanese__edo__civil_center (can Yamoto civil center be reused or was it distinct?)(if distinct enough otherwise only if there are volunteer artists/time permits/significance rises!)Other special and, in regard to the prior dynasties, distinct buildings.distinct units.Showa:Civil Center - japanese__showa__civil_centermore distinct buildingsmore distinct unit types2Dgeneric structure texture - japanese__structuregeneric unit texture - japanese__unitJōmon:Yayoi:Yamato:Heian:Edo:Showa:AnimationMap/Campaign Edited May 26, 2014 by Hephaestion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radagast. Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) Okay, The Japanese civilization should be settled for our purposes:We now feature at max 6 factions for the Japanese civilization over the course of time. Some of those might not even need completely new art assets and can reuse the prior dynasty's assets.Very special buildings and units of other - either left out completely or not bold written dynasties/periods - may still be included if worth it. (very low number of assets) Edited May 22, 2014 by Hephaestion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Druide Gaulois Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 I think we'd better divide the Japanese in 2 factions only, the first one ranging from Nara Period to the end of Kamakura, the later from Muromachi Period to the first years of Edo Period (this is actually the Medieval Japan, not for the time gap, obviously, but for the dynamics, wich were very similar to Medieval Europe). I'll soon submit some concepts for part I. Should I re-post the ones from part 2 as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radagast. Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Excuse the mess. A misunderstanding: I meant this to be the complete timeline.In the Roadmap in the Medieval timeframe we only have:- Heian (Millennium I)- Kamakura + Muromachi (Millennium II)The Heian are essentially your first mentioned timeframe (without the Nara who were only 80 years in comparison to the 400 of the Heian period). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Druide Gaulois Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Heian Civic Center. The ornaments got all screwed up by the side. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Druide Gaulois Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Now I got all the details figured out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayakashi Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Good work so far you are improving fast but Imho maybe a little humble for a CC? Perhapes a little more grandeur and complexity in the layout would better achieve that "CC" look?Examples:Byodo InHeian Soryuro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Druide Gaulois Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 I was thinking the same as you, but since those Chinese-style structures were moslty enclosured within walls, a civic center inspired by a palace would look too big ( I even thought about making such a building with gates and all). But the Heian Soryuro looks great as a starting point, you can see it starts to differ from Tang architecture and assuming a more regional tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayakashi Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) What I tend do with asian structures is to look at certain examples like a palace or temple complex, then pick out the part of it that stand out like the main hall for example, and then base the concept on that part while tweaking it here and there to turn it into an original creation that would look like a buildable structure in game. It's also useful to look at buildings already in the game to gauge out what scale and layout you want it. Edited May 24, 2014 by Ayakashi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Druide Gaulois Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Here's the guard tower, inspired by the towers of the Castle in the Corner (Soryuro). The upper roof needs to be a little enlarged. I can't find any examples of fortifications, though. Thanks for the tip, the concept for the CC was actually taken from a palace in Kyoto. I didn't want it to be just a big hall, so I added the lanterns and the tree ( this later one to give it a more Japanese "feel", in contrast with the Chinese symetry). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Druide Gaulois Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 What I painted grey is actually red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Druide Gaulois Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 I was thinking if perhaps a tower like this woudn't be more accurate: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niektb Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Maybe as outpost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radagast. Posted May 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 I'll create both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Druide Gaulois Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) I'll make a sketch of the outpost then. Here are the Heian homes (the round logs aren't red as in the civ center or temples, it's just "raw" wood). I see this civilization's architecture style will be very discrepant, in one side we'll have more "indigenous" Japanese buildings, in the other one, the Chinese-influenced structures. You think it's better to equalize or maintain the differences? Edited May 26, 2014 by Le Druide Gaulois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radagast. Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Wow! I'll model it. I hope we can maintain the differences as far as possible and feasible. The buildings could be either described as Chinese influenced or we could later tag it with a location or direction of our territory North/East/South/West or best determine in which direction the next Chinese civilization AI is settling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radagast. Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 You don't necessarily have to draw the model, we really don't want to overstretch you. (I could model it from the picture) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Druide Gaulois Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 To me is ok doing these concepts, I just fear that I'm giving you too much work. I don't wanna load anybody with tasks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Druide Gaulois Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 That's pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niektb Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 That's pretty cool.I think the same 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Druide Gaulois Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Quick sketch on the Heian fort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Are the tower roofs the same style as the buildings ? Anyway good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Druide Gaulois Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Thanks, Stan .Yes, they are, here's a little reference (plus a reconstruction of a grannary). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Druide Gaulois Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 By the way, I'll draw each of the buildings of the fort individually. Here are sketches of a house, a guard tower and a grannary, from left to right ( the reconstruction above looks much better). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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