idanwin Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Nice helmets! I wouldn't mind trying to make some of them in blender! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Nice helmets! I wouldn't mind trying to make some of them in blender! do it, XD, with this Civ. i don know how kind Building they would to have? many nations in One, with distinct ethnicity.This are more Italic Than Sicilian.Achean can be other Etnicity These seafarers invaded eastern Anatolia, Syria, Palestine, Cyprus and Egypt in the 2nd millenium BCE. The exact ethnic origin, culture and language is not known.History: The Sea Peoples were in almost all ways a negative and destructive force for the region. Even if the Sea People destroyed much through their campaigns, it is believed that they were the founders of the Philistine and Phoenician civilizations, which soon grew to some of the most important forces in the eastern Mediterranean. Edited March 23, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I conclude With. See also: Sea PeoplesThe late Bronze Age (15th-13th centuries BC) saw a vast migration of the so-called sea people, described in ancient Egyptian sources. They destroyed Mycenaean and Hittite sites and also attacked Egypt. According to some scholars the Sherden, one of the most important tribes of the sea peoples, are to be identified with the Nuragic Sardinians.[9]Another hypothesis is that they arrived to the island around the 13th-12th century after the failed invasion of Egypt. However, these theories remain controversial. A lost work by Simonides of Ceos reported by Zenobius, spoke of raids by Sardinians against the island of Crete, in the same period in which the Sea People invaded Egypt. This would at least confirm that Nuragic Sardinians frequented the eastern Mediterranean Sea. Further proofs come from 13th century Nuragic ceramics found at Tiryns and in theAgrigento area in Sicily, along the sea route linking western to eastern Mediterranean.Bronze model of nuraghe. 10th century BC.Recently the archaeologist Adam Zertal, echoing the theory already presented in 2005 by Leonardo Melis,[10] has proposed that the Harosheth Haggoyim of Israel, home of the biblical figure Sisera, is identifiable with the site of "El-Ahwat" and that it was a Nuragic site suggesting that he came from the people of the Sherden of Sardinia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Su Nuraxi. Edited March 24, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idanwin Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Really interesting images! Finally some visuals on their buildings. This should help getting the modelling started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Really interesting images! Finally some visuals on their buildings. This should help getting the modelling started. that be a Fort, they dont use walls or towers only this fortress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Nuragic Warrior I want thst Model of Tent as a House, they are Invaders like Myceneans in Troy. Edited March 23, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Their Temporary Settlement, Work same as Roman Army CampAnd i wish look a Grand tent for Warlord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphzaph Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 yeah and perhaps a mercenary camp with lybians warriors mycenans mercenaries and Rephaim ( race of giant warrior ) like Goliath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 yeah and perhaps a mercenary camp with lybians warriors mycenans mercenaries and Rephaim ( race of giant warrior ) like Goliath what buildings can be suitable?Tents, Nuragic, i dont know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphzaph Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Yeah a tentand for them dock a grounded ship 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Yeah a tentand for them dock a grounded ship Faming? and ,Barack,towers? temples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphzaph Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 SEA PEOPLE CIVILISATION PROFILEVersion 0.1Edited by ZaphzaphNota bene : i use some ancient greek terms. My references is a book of Osprey Publishing : Bronze Age Greek Warrior.UNIT DESCRIPTIONSINFANTRYGeneric Name: Swordman.Specific Name: phasgana.Class: Swordman.Hacker Armament: Long sword (0.90m).Appearance: I think that would be good that the apparence of these warriors is the apparence of the Peleset ( http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/images/seapeoples32.jpg ), the Shekelesh ( http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/images/seapeoples69.jpg ) and the Lukka ( http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/images/seapeoples14.jpg )Basic: .Advanced: .Elite: .History: .Garrison: 1.Function:Generic Name: Spearman.Specific Name: Enkhespi.Class: Spearman.Hacker Armament: Long spear ( 1.90m)Appearance: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQxY4BJtoYnIYdaD-NNM6hkc2JAtY9wbi9vM7DcU_31IdZTe5FVBasic: .Advanced: .Elite: .History: .Garrison: 1.Function: -Special: -Generic Name: Skirmisher.Specific Name: Paltaion.Class: Archer.Ranged Armament: Javelin.Appearance: I suggest the same apparence of : Peleset ( so Peleset Skirmisher ), Shekelesh less armored than the swordman.Basic: .Advanced: .Elite: .History: .Garrison: 1.Function: .Special: .CHARIOTRYGeneric Name: Ox-Carts.Specific Name: ?.Class: Cavalry Javelineer.Ranged Armament: Javelin.Hack Armament (Passive-Trample): Longsword.Appearance:Basic: Driver. One javelineer.Advanced: Driver. Three javelineers.Elite: Driver. Five javelineers.Mount: History: The sea peoples used to use this chariot when they travelled for quickly settled themselves.Garrison: 3.Function: .Special: This type of chariot can transform himself into civ-center with 5 Ox-carts.SUPPORT UNITSSUPPORTGeneric Name: Sea peoples Woman.Specific Name: ?Class: Female Citizen.Appearance: white skin. Skirt, player color.History: .Garrison: 1.Function: Good at gathering food. Has an 'aura' that boosts the productivity of citizen-soldiers around her.Special: -.Generic Name: Priest.Specific Name: ?Class: Healer.Appearance:Garb: .Helmet: None.Shield: None.Figure(s): .History: .Garrison: 1.Function: -Special:"Defiance".Generic Name: Merchant.Specific Name: ?Class: Trader.Appearance:Garb: .Helmet: .Shield: .Figure(s): .Mount: .History: .Garrison: 2.Function: -Special: -NAVYGeneric Name: Fisherman.Specific Name: .Class: Fishing Boat.Appearance:Shell: -History: .Garrison: Cannot.Garrison Capacity: 1; support, infantryFunction: Gathering: Only method of collecting meat from fish.Special: Garrison a support unit or infantry unit inside to boost fishing rate.Generic Name: Trading Ship.Specific Name: .Class: Merchant Ship.Appearance:Shell: .History: .Garrison: Cannot.Function: Sets up trade routes between friendly Ports.Special: Garrison a Trader inside to boost the amount of trade received.Generic Name: Light Warship.Specific Name: .Class: Light Warship.Appearance:Shell: .History: .Garrison: .Function: .Special: -Generic Name: Medium Warship.Specific Name: Yudhpot.Class: Medium Warship.Appearence:Shell: .History: .Garrison: .Function: .Special: .Because they are "sea" peoples they have the best type of warship navy.SIEGE UNITSGeneric Name: Ram.Specific Name: .Class: Siege Ram.Appearance: Two sea-peoples hold a beam .Garb: .Helmet: .Shield: .Figure(s): .History: .Garrison: 2.Special: Can attack the walls but are weak.Generic Name: Pillagers.Specific Name: .Class: Buildings destroyers.Appearance: A sea people with a torch .Garb: .Helmet: .Shield: .Figure(s): .History: .Garrison: 1.Special: Are very good against all buildings and woman ctizen but can't attack walls and weak against all other units type.CHAMPION UNITSGeneric Name: Two Horses chariotSpecific Name: ?Class: Cavalry Skirmisher and Cavalry Spearmen.Ranged Armament: A chariot with a driver and a warrior with a bow and a spear.Appearance:Basic: .Advanced: .Elite: .Figure(s): -History: Only Peleset can use it when they settled themselves into Canaan.Garrison: 2.Function: .Special: Generic Name: Sherden Guard.Specific Name: Sheridan.Class: Champion long swordman.Appearance: A sherden with heavy protections.History: .Garrison: 1.Function: Extra good vs. enemy cavalry. Trained at the Fortress.Special:Generic Name: Rephaim.Specific Name: .Class: Champion Giant Swordsman.Hacker Armament: Variations between a long spear and sword.Appearance: heavy armoured.History: .Garrison: 1.Function: heavy armour; High crush attack. But vulnerable of arrows, javelins and slingshotSpecial: .Generic Name: Lybian.Specific Name: <?>.Class: TBD. Champion javilineer or Champion ArcherHacker Armament: javelins.Ranged Armament: Bow.Appearance: History: .Garrison: 1.Function: Special: Trained from Mercenary campement.They will mix with javelins or bows.MAURYAN HEROESGeneric Name: Akish of Gath.Specific Name: Akish of Gath.Class: Hero1.Hacker Armament: .Ranged Armament: .Appearance:Garb:Helmet: .Shield: .Figure(s): .Mount: 2 Horses Chariot. History: .Garrison: 2.Function: .Special:"Hero" Aura Increase the strenght of soldier in him aura.Generic Name: Goliath of Gath.Specific Name: Goliath of Gath.Class: Hero2.Hacker Armament: .Ranged Armament: .Appearance:Garb: .Helmet: .Shield: .Figure(s): .Mount: Rephaim Giant warrior.History: .Garrison: 1.Function: .Special:"Hero" Aura Warcry : When he do this all enemy units in his aura will be more weak in a short time.Generic Name: Meryre son of didi.Specific Name: Meryre son of didi.Class: .Hacker Armament: Copper swordRanged Armament: JavilinAppearance:Garb: .Helmet: .Shield: .Figure(s): .History: One of the greatest leader of the sea peoples confederation.Garrison: 1.Function: .Special:"Hero" Aura ( all bowmen and javelineers have an enormous and incrdible increase of their number of arrows shoot ).CIV CENTRE UNITSMelee Infantry: Sea peoples swordmen.Ranged Infantry: Skirmisher.Cavalry: Ox-carts.FORBIDDEN CLASSESSlinger.Cavalry Spearman.Cavalry Swordsman.Heavy Warship.Catapult.Bolt Shooter.Battering Ram. 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zaphzaph Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 ok i haven't yet do the work for buildings i need a dictionnary of proto greek translationYou do a super work with the buildings and with the pictureSee that http://www.hat.com/Othr7/Alquier02P.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) Wonder: Dagon Temple: what you think guys?The results strongly support previous scholarly assertions that the Philistines likely originated from settlements on the Greek mainland, though some may have landed for a time in parts of Cyprus before settling in the land of Southern Canaan. These settlers carried notions of Aegean building traditions with them to their new settlements and built according to the practices of their homeland. While there is strong evidence for cultural contact, there is little support for any assertion that the indigenous populations controlled or built the structures of Philistia proper. Finally, the domestic architecture is used to suggest details regarding Philistine household structure.http://udini.proquest.com/view/philistine-domestic-architecture-in-pqid:1908118151/ Edited March 24, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphzaph Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) Yeah good ideafor the temple or for a wonder ?http://www.biblearchaeology.org/image.axd?picture=Temple-at-Tell-Qasile.jpg Edited March 24, 2013 by zaphzaph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) About Sea People razing Ugarit: DestructionSee also: Bronze Age collapseThe last Bronze Age king of Ugarit, Ammurapi, (circa 1215 to 1180 BC) was a contemporary of the Hittite king Suppiluliuma II. The exact dates of his reign are unknown. However, a letter[4] by the king is preserved, in which Ammurapi stresses the seriousness of the crisis faced by many Near Eastern states from invasion by the advancing Sea Peoples in a dramatic response to a plea for assistance from the king of Alasiya. Ammurapi highlights the desperate situation Ugarit faced:My father, behold, the enemy's ships came (here); my cities(?) were burned, and they did evil things in my country. Does not my father know that all my troops and chariots(?) are in the Land of Hatti, and all my ships are in the Land of Lukka?...Thus, the country is abandoned to itself. May my father know it: the seven ships of the enemy that came here inflicted much damage upon us.[5]The Lukka lands are often mentioned in Hittite texts from the 2nd millennium BC. It denotes a region in the southwestern part of Anatolia. The Lukka lands were never put under permanent Hittite control and were viewed as hostile by the Hittites.It is commonly accepted that the Bronze Age toponym Lukka is cognate with classical Lycia. There is a contrast between the maximalist and the minimalist views with regard to the extent of the Lukka Lands. The maximalist view is upheld by Trevor Bryce, who discusses the occurrences of Lukka in Bronze Age texts.[1]From these texts we can conclude the Lukka, or Lukka lands, referred to a regions extending from the western end of Pamphylia, through Lycaonia, Pisidia andLycia.The minimalist view is upheld by Ilya Yakubovich, who concludes based on the analysis of textual evidence:[2][W]e have positive philological arguments for the presence of Bronze Age Lukka settlements in classical Lycia, but not anywhere else in Asia Minor or beyond it.Soldiers from the Lukka lands fought on the Hittite side in the famous Battle of Kadesh (c. 1274 BC) against the Egyptian Pharaoh Ramesses II. A century later the Lukka had turned against the Hittites. The Hittite king Suppiluliuma II tried in vain to defeat the Lukka. They contributed to the collapse of the Hittite empire.The Lukka is also known from ancient Egyptian texts. They were one of the tribes that constituted the Sea Peoples who invaded Egypt and the Eastern Mediterranean in the 12th century BC.[3] Edited March 24, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphzaph Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 So perhaps it would be good to add the Lukka ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Pleshet or Peleset, were a people who as part of the Sea Peoples appeared in the southern coastal area of Canaan at the beginning of the Iron Age (circa 1175 BC), most probably from the Aegean region. According to the Bible, they ruled the five city-states (the "Philistine Pentapolis") of Gaza, Ashkelon, Ashdod, Ekron and Gath, from Wadi Gaza in the south to the Yarqon River in the north, but with no fixed border to the east.[2] The Bible paints them as the Kingdom of Israel's most dangerous enemy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) So perhaps it would be good to add the Lukka ? Its difficult find some Infomation of Them. im main interesting in buildings, that is so Had to do.Sardians.Sicels(Nuragic)Anatolians(Trojans)Minoans.They we have Many references.And the Mixed very fast With Canaan Natives.and they are very like to Carthage, is Amazing, they Convert as Philistines, later to Phoenicians, and Later to Carthaginians. and Invades Sicilian XD.The gameplay Style can be Race/rush, fast Building and train units, but main units can be Weaks and their Champios can be Expensive. Edited March 24, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) We have a Symbol to start a Emblem_______________________________________________________I Propose use Ox Car Battle and Ox cart Support Dropsite(like Mauryans) .I Phase SettlementII Phase ColorizationIII City State Edited March 24, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphzaph Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) Edited March 24, 2013 by zaphzaph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphzaph Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Yeah i've thinking about if you take 5 Ox-carts or more you could transform them into a civ-center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) Yeah i've thinking about if you take 5 Ox-carts or more you could transform them into a civ-center the Problem is in 0A don have that Command yet. one thing = transform in other like civ Center.a Entity transform in Other, we must request for Help to a Programmer. may be Quatumstate or Historic_Bruno, or Contributor Flexor, Zoot and Alpha123.we need:Entity Evolving/Upgrade.Capture Feature: Convert/take BuildingsStockpile Reward for race. if you detroy you take a loot. Edited March 24, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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