===[COMMITTED]=== Mauryan War Elephant (and hero elephant)

[Enrique]

  On 01/02/2013 at 7:17 PM, Mythos_Ruler said:

Awesome work so far. Perhaps the head armor should be a prop though. Thoughts?

I agree.

However, I have my concerns about the body armour itself. If it's going to be animated with the "whole" elephant, they cannot have separated textures/meshes right?

[Mythos_Ruler]

  On 01/02/2013 at 7:20 PM, Enrique said:

I agree.

However, I have my concerns about the body armour itself. If it's going to be animated with the "whole" elephant, they cannot have separated textures/meshes right?

Depends on how Zaggy wants to do it.

[Lion.Kanzen]

  On 01/02/2013 at 6:53 PM, Enrique said:

Restarted elephants armor based on those concepts. Still heavy wip.

wow the armored intimidates me, looks like a Tank, give a bonus armour against defensive buildings. its very intimidate, Seleucid special unit must be similar. nice job.

[Zaggy1024]

  On 01/02/2013 at 7:25 PM, Mythos_Ruler said:

Depends on how Zaggy wants to do it.

For the armor to move around properly (without edges going through the elephant's skin), it'll have to be rigged, and the head armor may have to be too (because the trunk will move), so I guess that means it'll probably have to be one texture... Unless someone makes a way to make props use the same animation as its parent (or an animation associated with the animation of its parent).

[Mythos_Ruler]

  On 02/02/2013 at 4:00 AM, Zaggy1024 said:

For the armor to move around properly (without edges going through the elephant's skin), it'll have to be rigged, and the head armor may have to be too (because the trunk will move), so I guess that means it'll probably have to be one texture... Unless someone makes a way to make props use the same animation as its parent (or an animation associated with the animation of its parent).

It's very possible to have props do animations (how do you think riders do "riding" animations when their mount is running, etc.). So, really, it's up to you if you want separate meshes for the other stuff and prop it all to the standard Asian elephant mesh, or have it all be 1 Asian War Elephant mesh, completely separate from the standard Asian elephant mesh.

[Enrique]

WIP Update! (tatoos are placeholders)

Still not sure about the hero elephant turret. I don't know if it should be a "war turret" like hannibal or a comfortable hero-throne with a kind of umbrella for roof/protection. Opinions please

[lilstewie]

Add some bells too.

[Lion.Kanzen]

So exited i love Armored Have Elephants, make a Upgrade to Light Elephant to Haevy Elphant.

the Metal texture need some work. more grounge.

like this

but find some for free[that is an example dont use it], you can take a photo from a home pot or something like that its not difficult.

[Enrique]

  On 04/02/2013 at 1:23 AM, Lion.Kanzen said:

make a Upgrade to Light Elephant to Haevy Elphant.

The armored elephant is a champion unit. It does not gain ranks. The non-armored elephant will have up to 3 riders, one more each gained rank.

Adding grunge maps to the metal make it look like wet from a distance, looks ok when zooming, but I think is not necessary.

EDIT:

@lilstewie:

Something like this is too inaccurate for that period? -> http://www.ibiblio.org/britishraj/Jackson1/img/p000Elephant.jpg

[Lion.Kanzen]

  On 04/02/2013 at 1:34 AM, Enrique said:

The armored elephant is a champion unit. It does not gain ranks. The non-armored elephant will have up to 3 riders, one more each gained rank.

Adding grunge maps to the metal make it look like wet from a distance, looks ok when zooming, but I think is not necessary.

Argyraspides and Hyspapit too? .

Not the actuallooks some leather or plastic only this, is my opinion, the other textures are very cool.

Edited February 4, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen

[Enrique]

  On 04/02/2013 at 1:39 AM, Lion.Kanzen said:

Argyraspides and Hyspapit too? .

Not the actuallooks some leather or plastic only this, is my opinion, the other textures are very cool.

I didn't understand.

Here's the texture I made if you think you can make some good looking grunge.

[lilstewie]

  On 04/02/2013 at 1:34 AM, Enrique said:

EDIT:

@lilstewie:

Something like this is too inaccurate for that period? -> http://www.ibiblio.o...000Elephant.jpg

Yeah, it kinda is.. Well just the roof part at least.

They look like they are on some sort of elevated platform, but not a lot of detail. :/

Edited February 4, 2013 by lilstewie

[Lion.Kanzen]

  On 04/02/2013 at 1:44 AM, Enrique said:

I didn't understand.

Here's the texture I made if you think you can make some good looking grunge.

i hope dont offense you

but thanks to give me i see if i can do that. if i fail no problem,

Working...

[Enrique]

  On 04/02/2013 at 1:48 AM, lilstewie said:

Yeah, it kinda is.. Well just the roof part at least.

They look like they are on some sort of elevated platform, but not a lot of detail. :/

Those images are hard to distinguish

I have found this, but I don't know the period :/

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From this page: http://bladams.tripo...litarymight.htm

[lilstewie]

  On 04/02/2013 at 2:07 AM, Enrique said:

Those images are hard to distinguish

I have found this, but I don't know the period :/

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From this page: http://bladams.tripo...litarymight.htm

It's medieval+. :/

[lilstewie]

I've never really seen a howdah design in the reliefs. All I have seen is some sort of cover, roof for the person in the back. I dont know if this is a simplification of a howdah design. No good references(historically accurate painting, drawing, etc) of a howdah design from then. :/

If you guys insisted on a howdah design this is the closest good reference I have found.

Before the Islamic invasion of India.

Edited February 4, 2013 by lilstewie

[lilstewie]

This is actually more historically accurate for that time period. Most images dont have howdahs shown at all.

The tower howdahs are probably a Greek idea. They had limited elephants and they made the best out of it. India would rush many elephants to break the army.

I know this is all so confusing.

Edited February 9, 2013 by lilstewie

[Lion.Kanzen]

@enrique here is the Textures, was hard.

[lilstewie]

No idea :/

[Enrique]

Found a nice illustration:

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Source: http://indianhistory...-and-india.html

[lilstewie]

@Enrique

That looks Mughal/Medieval inspired.

Enrique, that looks like it's Mughal/Medieval inspired. I think the Alexander movie one is better in the end.

[lilstewie]

Add an parasol of course.

Edited February 6, 2013 by lilstewie

[Enrique]

Thanks for those references lilstewie. I have the parasol already modeled

I'm working on the howdah texture, I'm about to make it highly decorated golden thing with some mauryan symbols

[Sighvatr]

Those Tattooed war elephants look like baby Mumakil to me. I have been waiting to see if anybody made any LoTR references yet.

[Lion.Kanzen]

I found this article:

CATAPHRACT AND OTHER ANIMAL ARMOR:

http://www.o-matic.com/blog/?p=2883