Civ info changes

[Thorfinn the Shallow Minded]

Question, perhaps those could be there, but what if people want more in depth ones? By the way, I would be fairly capable of at least doing the Spartan history and perhaps the Macedonian one if I find the time.

[feneur]

Question, perhaps those could be there, but what if people want more in depth ones? By the way, I would be fairly capable of at least doing the Spartan history and perhaps the Macedonian one if I find the time.

We hope to include more indepth history articles with the game, but for the civ description pages a few lines like above should be enough.

[leper]

Somehow related: Ticket #1168 has a new patch file which corrects some typos.

EDIT: Ben was faster

[Jeru]

Thanks for the heads up.

[Jeru]

I don't know how to submit a patch so I will just copy-paste to the forum and ask for someone to commit:

athen.json

	"History":"As the cradle of Western civilization and the birthplace of democracy, Athens was famed as a center for the arts, learning and philosophy. The Athenians were also powerful warriors, particularly at sea. At its peak, Athens dominated a large part of the Hellenic world for several decades.",

brit.json

"History": "The Britons were the Celtic tribes of the British Isles. Using chariots, longswordsmen and powerful melee soldiers, they staged fearesome revolts against Rome to protect their customs and interests. Also, they built thousands of unique structures such as hill forts, crannogs and brochs.",

cart.json

	"History": "Carthage, a city-state in modern-day Tunisia, was a formidable force in the western Mediterranean, eventually taking over much of North Africa and modern-day Spain in the third century B.C. The sailors of Carthage were among the fiercest contenders on the high seas, and masters of naval trade. They deployed towered War Elephants on the battlefield to fearsome effect, and had defensive walls so strong, they were never breached.",

gaul.json

	"History": "The Gauls were the Celtic tribes of continental Europe. Dominated by a priestly class of Druids, they featured a sophisticated culture of advanced metalworking, agriculture, trade and even road engineering. With heavy infantry and cavalry, Gallic warriors valiantly resisted Caesar's campaign of conquest and Rome's authoritarian rule.",

iber.json

	"History": "The Iberians were a people of mysterious origins and language, with a strong tradition of horsemanship and metalworking. A relatively peaceful culture, they usually fought in other's battles only as mercenaries. However, they proved tenacious when Rome sought to take their land and freedom from them, and employed pioneering guerrilla tactics and flaming javelins as they fought back.",

mace.json

	"History":"Macedonia was an ancient Greek kingdom, centered in the northeastern part of the Greek peninsula. Under the leadership of Alexander the Great, Macedonian forces and allies took over most of the world they knew, including Egypt, Persia and parts of the Indian subcontinent, allowing a diffusion of Hellenic and eastern cultures for years to come.",

maur.json

"History": "Founded in 322 B.C., the Mauryan Empire was the first to rule most of the Indian subcontinent, and one of the largest and most populous empires of its time. Its military featured longbowmen, female warriors and war elephants. Under the rule of Ashoka the Great, the empire saw 40 years of peace, harmony and prosperity.",

pers.json

	"History": "The Persian Empire, when ruled by the Achaemenid dynasty, was one of the greatest empires of antiquity, stretching at its zenith from the Indus Valley in the east to Greece in the west. The Persians were the pioneers of empire-building of the ancient world, successfully imposing a centralized rule over various peoples with different customs, laws, religions and languages, and building a cosmopolitan army made up of contingents from each of these nations.",

rome.json

	"History": "The Romans controlled the largest empire of the ancient world, stretching at its peak from southern Scotland to the Sahara Desert, and containing over 60 million inhabitants, one quarter of the Earth's population at that time. Rome also remained one of the strongest nations on earth for almost 800 years. The Romans were the supreme builders of the ancient world, excelled at siege warfare and had an exquisite infantry and navy.",

spart.json

	"History":"Sparta was a prominent city-state in ancient Greece, and its dominant military power on land from circa 650 B.C. Spartan culture was obsessed with military training and excellence, with rigorous training for boys beginning at age seven. Thanks to its military might, Sparta led a coalition of Greek forces during the Greco-Persian Wars, and won over Athens in the Peloponnesian Wars, though at great cost.",

[leper]

Done in r12952.

[Jeru]

Thanks, leper.

[Zeta1127]

The description for the Persian Civ Bonus, Great King's Levy, should probably be phrased in a similar manner to the Mauyran Civ Bonus, Emperor of Emperors. Also, something needs to be done about the Athenian Macedonian Civ Bonuses, their descriptions are rather long and there are three of them, which is making their Team Bonus run off of the History window.

Edited January 19, 2013 by Zeta1127

[Jeru]

Zeta1127[/], I suggest you put up alternative phrasings and post them in this thread just as I did. If they are okay, someone will commit them for you.

[Zeta1127]

Here are my suggestions for the rephrased descriptions of several civ and team bonuses.

athen.json

Silver Coinage

   "Description":"For allies only, metal mining gathering rates increased by 10% for each passing phase."

cart.json

Roundup

   "Description": "The resource cost of training elephant-mounted (war elephant) or horse-mounted units (cavalry) is reduced by 5% per animal corralled (as appropriate)."

iber.json

Harritsu Lekku

   "Description": "Iberians start with a powerful prefabricated circuit of stone walls."

Zaldi Saldoa

   "Description": "The resource cost of training horse-mounted units (cavalry) is reduced by 5% per animal corralled."

Saripeko

   "Description": "Infantry and cavalry citizen-soldier javelinists civ cost -50%."

mace.json

Hellenic League

   "Description":"Macedonian units have +10% attack bonus vs. Persian and Hellenic factions, but -5% attack debonus vs. Romans."

Standardized Currency

   "Description":"+15% tribute and trade bonus on metal."

pers.json

Corral Camels and Horses

   "Description": "The resource cost of training camel-mounted (trader) or horse-mounted units (cavalry) is reduced by 5% per animal corralled (as appropriate)."

Great King's Levy

   "Description": "Persians have a +10% population cap bonus (330 pop cap instead of the usual 300)."

Royal Road

   "Description": "+25% trade profit land routes."

spart.json

Laws of Lycurgus

   "Description":"In City Phase, all citizen-soldiers promote directly to Elite rank after 1 kill, but -10% population cap debonus."

Peloponnesian League

   "Description":"Allies can train Spartiates."

Edited January 21, 2013 by Zeta1127

[Mythos_Ruler]

I suggest we just add a slider. lol

Better yet, the layout of the history section should be redesigned.

[kosmo]

You mean of the civs in the info screen or the units/structures <History></History> in the xml's ?

[Mythos_Ruler]

You mean of the civs in the info screen or the units/structures <History></History> in the xml's ?

The UI layout, not the XML information.

[lilstewie]

"History": "The Romans controlled the largest empire of the ancient world,

Isnt this incorrect information?

In 117 AD Roman empire was 6,500,000 km². The Persian empire at it''s peak in 480 BC was 8,000,000 km².

Edited January 20, 2013 by lilstewie

[feneur]

"History": "The Romans controlled the largest empire of the ancient world,

Isnt this incorrect information?

In 117 AD Roman empire was 6,500,000 km². The Persian empire at it''s peak in 480 BC was 8,000,000 km².

Please provide sources. Even if the old information might be wrong let's make sure any changes are based on fact-checked information

[kosmo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires#All_empires_at_their_greatest_extent (yes, it's wikipedia )

So it seems he's right concerning the covered area, while the roman empire had between 65 and 88 million inhabitants, which i guess was the biggest number back then, closely followed by the mauryan empire with 68 million.

[Mythos_Ruler]

"History": "The Romans controlled the largest empire of the ancient world,

Isnt this incorrect information?

In 117 AD Roman empire was 6,500,000 km². The Persian empire at it''s peak in 480 BC was 8,000,000 km².

Please provide sources. Even if the old information might be wrong let's make sure any changes are based on fact-checked information

http://en.wikipedia....greatest_extent (yes, it's wikipedia )

So it seems he's right concerning the covered area, while the roman empire had between 65 and 88 million inhabitants, which i guess was the biggest number back then, closely followed by the mauryan empire with 68 million.

Yep, it all depends on your definition of "largest." Largest by land area? Population? Number of cats? I'll make the description more specific. Thanks guys.