Gio Posted November 5 Report Share Posted November 5 Hello, I've been playing 0 A.D. for a few months now, and my main civilization is Sparta, as I have a deep admiration for the Spartans. However, I was disappointed to discover that they don't have the strongest champion hoplites in the game, even after the champion upgrade. This seems surprising considering the Spartan civilization is lacking in several other unit types, including a variety of ranged units, cavalry, and siege weapons, as well as stone walls. Because of this, I believe it would be fitting for Sparta to at least have the strongest standard spearmen (which they do, thanks to the Hoplite Tradition upgrade) and also the strongest champion units—something they currently lack. Thank you for reading this message.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted November 5 Author Report Share Posted November 5 I discovered this after having my Spartan champion 1v1 my buddy's Macedonian spearmen champion and lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AInur Posted November 5 Report Share Posted November 5 Hi, I totally agree with you. You can discuss Sparta related issues with Leif in the lobby. Meanwhile, he has made a patch: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emacz Posted November 5 Report Share Posted November 5 4 hours ago, AInur said: Hi, I totally agree with you. You can discuss Sparta related issues with Leif in the lobby. Meanwhile, he has made a patch: Thanks!! Gio, yes Ive tried to modify Sparta and make them a little more historically accurate and give them the strongest hoplites in the game! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted November 7 Author Report Share Posted November 7 Ok thank you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted November 7 Report Share Posted November 7 On 05/11/2024 at 2:04 AM, Gio said: Hello, I've been playing 0 A.D. for a few months now, and my main civilization is Sparta, as I have a deep admiration for the Spartans. However, I was disappointed to discover that they don't have the strongest champion hoplites in the game, even after the champion upgrade. This seems surprising considering the Spartan civilization is lacking in several other unit types, including a variety of ranged units, cavalry, and siege weapons, as well as stone walls. Because of this, I believe it would be fitting for Sparta to at least have the strongest standard spearmen (which they do, thanks to the Hoplite Tradition upgrade) and also the strongest champion units—something they currently lack. Thank you for reading this message.. @real_tabasco_sauce community mod/Alpha 27 Spartans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_tabasco_sauce Posted November 7 Report Share Posted November 7 In the community mod, you can also get a nice experience with spartan hoplites. Basically you can train them in phase one and they promote to Olympic champions which are the best spear infantry in the game. People tend to play the community mod fairly often, and the changes are less sweeping than what @Emacz has put together. you can get the mod in settings->mod selection-> download mods 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrik Posted November 7 Report Share Posted November 7 @Emacz 's mod introduce a lot of changes that makes you play differently then with usual vanilla/com mod civs (In witch all civs can be played nearly identically). You can have a great time having to think about optimal times to attack with this new mechanics, and very often, it is leaning toward you attacking early on, because of the slow economy of Sparta as an example. You also have a lot of changes on how you balance your economy with Spartans. When successful, you might manage to get a small group of elite units capable to fight off a player that had a much larger economy then you, right before his economic dominance become a problem. On the other hand, the community mod champions in p1 are only viable on very specific map/settings. The only times I felt they would be good is on "fortress" map where you start with extra stone and metal from treasures, and have a market to buy more metal from others players selling metal for food/wood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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