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2 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
A short article about it :
@Lopess do you have the lead on this faction?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germa
The Archaeology of Fazzan, Volume 1 - Synthesis
https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/54515
The Archaeology of Fazzan, Volume 2 - Site Gazetteer, Pottery and other Survey Finds
https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/54095
The Archaeology of Fazzan, Volume 3 - Excavations
https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/54108
The Archaeology of Fazzan, Volume 4 - Survey and Excavations at Old Jarma (Ancient Garama)
https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/54098
Edit:
"Gaetuli" y Roma - XV Semana de la Ciencia
https://www.academia.edu/29611766/_Gaetuli_y_Roma_XV_Semana_de_la_Ciencia
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On 25/09/2022 at 6:20 PM, Genava55 said:
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9 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said:
Yeah that's a good one.

Dialnet-NuevoSignumEquitumCeltiberico-4338399.pdf
27-Texto del artículo-28-1-10-20080122.pdf

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3 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
Where were the representations found?
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yacimiento_arqueológico_de_La_Alcudia
3 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:That wolf head could definitely either be a Lusitanian
What makes you think of a relationship with Lusitanians?
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On 27/09/2022 at 10:31 PM, Sennacherib said:
sorry it is in french. you can see at 19 min, the different gallic warriors, the guy with the basic shield would be a better addition to the game to replace the current naked dude with a cape.
Ouais du coup ce sont les troupes des Teuta Arverni et des Drungo. Deux groupes de reconstituteurs que je connais.
Les références ne manquent pas sur le forum pour habiller les Celtes. C'est plutôt qu'ici la décision se trouve surtout chez celui qui fait.
À la base, seuls les fanatiques devaient être nus. Je ne sais pas comment les modifications ont été planifiées et décidées. Là, il y a plus de concept ni de ligne directrice, les combattants sont à poil en gagnant de l'expérience... c'est super.
Enfin bref. À ce stade, je m'en fous. Il a fallu deux ans pour mettre un fourreau en fer à droite au lieu d'un fourreau en bois à gauche. Dans cinq ans, ils récupéreront leurs vêtements.
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20 hours ago, Sennacherib said:
In O.a.d, there is the adretos, the marcaros, who start naked and the briton marcaros loses his pant when his level increases. Only the fanatic should be totally naked.
I don't mind if the adretos begin shirtless but give them a pants and shoes and remove the cape.
My apologies, you were right. There is much more nakedness in the new alpha than in the previous one.
In the scenario editor:
Gauls:

Britons:


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12 hours ago, Sennacherib said:
In O.a.d, there is the adretos, the marcaros, who start naked and the briton marcaros loses his pant when his level increases. Only the fanatic should be totally naked.
That's weird. Normally, it shouldn't be like that. I will check this evening.
12 hours ago, Sennacherib said:sorry it is in french. you can see at 19 min, the different gallic warriors, the guy with the basic shield would be a better addition to the game to replace the current naked dude with a cape.
I will watch it this evening. I speak French, this is my mother tongue (I am Swiss).
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6 hours ago, Sennacherib said:
In fact the greek representations of the celts are not accurate at all. their art represent the vision of them through their own culture. A naked barbare is a barbare idealized and stereotyped. Don't forget that nudity for the greeks was very symbolic. I read tons of book about the celts/gauls/celtiberian etc and the nudity in fight is not seriously considered a certainty
I disagree that it is a stereotypical barbarian depiction. The Thracians and the Scythians weren't depicted regularly as naked by the Greeks. Nor the Germans and the Dacians by the Romans. Only Celts have been depicted consistently like this.
Above, I showed you different evidences from Etruscans, Greeks and Romans but also from native Celtiberians and Venetians.
In addition, we have at least two accounts mentioning Celtic warriors fighting naked. Even if the Greeks and the Romans exaggerated their depictions, it is difficult to dismiss all those evidences.
In the game, there is only one unit naked. Other units start bare-chested and gain body armor with experience.
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1 minute ago, Sennacherib said:
Please for the next release give clothes to the celts. they weren't naked at all. I could even say that the basic adretos naked with only a cape, seems ridiculous.
1. Not all the Celts are "naked" in the game. This is an exaggeration.
2. It is not that rare to fight naked or bare-chested in ancient times.
3. There are evidences for the Celts:










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On 22/09/2022 at 6:39 PM, alre said:
I think the hard/soft counter debate is meaningless for rts design, they are both legit choices depending on how those units are designed.
In the case of a historical RTS, this is an important point because hard counters are generally unhistorical... although it is necessary to make compromises for a game, I find the article interesting for understanding the gameplay.
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20 minutes ago, nifa said:
This one is by far the most famous one. But it's from 6th century, isn't that too late?
This kind of fibula is already used during the 5th century.
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20 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
@Genava55 Iberians?
https://www.laaventuradelahistoria.es/vaso-de-los-guerreros-ibero
https://elcorso.es/reportaje-el-arte-ibero/
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pátera_ibera_de_Perotito
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arte_íbero
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escultura_ibérica
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pintura_ibérica
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerámica_ibérica

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1 hour ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
I'll turn that into the Gauls one! It's currently a "Scythians" one, but I'll find something more apt for the Scythians.
The resources should not be lacking in the forum
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57 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
(a question for DE, what would be good for Germans? Suebians and Goths separately)
Bracteates could be useful:
Shared Divine Imagery Gold Bracteates.pdf (with pictures)
From book: The Migration Period between the Oder and the Vistula
Also Visigothic art:
https://www.worldhistory.org/Goths/
https://www.worldhistory.org/image/3137/visigothic-fibula/
http://users.stlcc.edu/mfuller/spainNationalMuseumVisigoth.html
Ostrogothic art:
https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/keywords/ostrogothic-art/
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ostrogothic_jewellery
For the Suebian, this is difficult, but something generic like a cauldron or a drinking horn could work:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gräberfelder_von_Putensen
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:2nd-century_jewellery_in_Germany
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:1st-century_jewellery_in_Germany
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19 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
Some kind of "Tree of Life" motif could work. Celtic mythology.
Although the trees are important in Celtic religion, the tree of life is also a Christian symbol. There is so much modern and medieval esoterism behind it, it is difficult to know what is genuinely Celtic.
17 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:I think the ones with knots seem more authentic, like the 3rd row down, 3rd from the left.
Medieval Celtic art is actually the result of Roman and Germanic influences:
https://www.archaeologs.com/w/salin-styles/en
http://thethegns.blogspot.com/2017/02/art-styles-part-2-migration-animal.html
http://thethegns.blogspot.com/2017/04/art-styles-part-3-insular-art.html
I would suggest to use native art from the pre-Roman iron age. Like the Mirror style:
https://www.pretanicworld.com/art/the-mirror-style.html



19 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:This one is nice for the Gauls.
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Quite interesting video
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13 minutes ago, m7600 said:
European/Viking themes get kind of repetitive after a while, so naturally one looks to other continents and other mythologies.
On this regard, Alien Weaponry is a young band very promising:






===[TASK]=== Crowd Sourced - Garamantians (Faction)
in Game Modification
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Identity Markers in South-Western Fazzan
Were the People of the Wadi Tanzzuft/Tadrart Akakus Region Garamantes?
gatto2019.pdf