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Genava55
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3 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
I appreciate the images of charcoal.
The black and white drawings are indeed more useful but at least it gives a better idea of the perspective
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50 minutes ago, Ultimate Aurelian said:
Those helmets are interesting, they remind me of the banded helmets worn by Germanics later in migration period.
Perhaos those were influenced by Roman helmets, or the Auxilia in the picture are using an earlier Germanic helmet?
The actual consensus is that the migration period helmets come from the Sassanian/Parthian helmets. This is the origin of the so-called Spangenhelm and Roman ridge helmets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spangenhelm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamellar_helmet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Roman_ridge_helmet
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1058733865261502465.html
But it is plausible the Germanic auxiliaries at this time got their helmets from the Sarmatians or the Dacians. Which would be an earlier version of the segmented helmets. A different branch. Those are nicknamed "skeleton helmets" although this is not a suitable name from a typological pov.
Some people think it is related to the Samartian find from Stanica Tbilisskaya:
And it is indeed true that later Germans used such design for their helmets.
Here is Thorsberg helmet:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorsberger_Moor
And here is Benty Grange helmet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benty_Grange_helmet
Valsgarde 6 helmet (burial N°6):
Valsgarde 5 helmet (burial N°5):
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Identity Markers in South-Western Fazzan
Were the People of the Wadi Tanzzuft/Tadrart Akakus Region Garamantes?
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2 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
A short article about it :
@Lopess do you have the lead on this faction?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germa
The Archaeology of Fazzan, Volume 1 - Synthesis
https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/54515
The Archaeology of Fazzan, Volume 2 - Site Gazetteer, Pottery and other Survey Finds
https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/54095
The Archaeology of Fazzan, Volume 3 - Excavations
https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/54108
The Archaeology of Fazzan, Volume 4 - Survey and Excavations at Old Jarma (Ancient Garama)
https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/54098
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"Gaetuli" y Roma - XV Semana de la Ciencia
https://www.academia.edu/29611766/_Gaetuli_y_Roma_XV_Semana_de_la_Ciencia
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On 25/09/2022 at 6:20 PM, Genava55 said:
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9 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said:
I found something about Arevaci.
Yeah that's a good one.
Dialnet-NuevoSignumEquitumCeltiberico-4338399.pdf
27-Texto del artículo-28-1-10-20080122.pdf
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3 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
Where were the representations found?
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yacimiento_arqueológico_de_La_Alcudia
3 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:That wolf head could definitely either be a Lusitanian
What makes you think of a relationship with Lusitanians?
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On 27/09/2022 at 10:31 PM, Sennacherib said:
sorry it is in french. you can see at 19 min, the different gallic warriors, the guy with the basic shield would be a better addition to the game to replace the current naked dude with a cape.
Ouais du coup ce sont les troupes des Teuta Arverni et des Drungo. Deux groupes de reconstituteurs que je connais.
Les références ne manquent pas sur le forum pour habiller les Celtes. C'est plutôt qu'ici la décision se trouve surtout chez celui qui fait.
À la base, seuls les fanatiques devaient être nus. Je ne sais pas comment les modifications ont été planifiées et décidées. Là, il y a plus de concept ni de ligne directrice, les combattants sont à poil en gagnant de l'expérience... c'est super.
Enfin bref. À ce stade, je m'en fous. Il a fallu deux ans pour mettre un fourreau en fer à droite au lieu d'un fourreau en bois à gauche. Dans cinq ans, ils récupéreront leurs vêtements.
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20 hours ago, Sennacherib said:
In O.a.d, there is the adretos, the marcaros, who start naked and the briton marcaros loses his pant when his level increases. Only the fanatic should be totally naked.
I don't mind if the adretos begin shirtless but give them a pants and shoes and remove the cape.
My apologies, you were right. There is much more nakedness in the new alpha than in the previous one.
In the scenario editor:
Gauls:
Britons:
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12 hours ago, Sennacherib said:
In O.a.d, there is the adretos, the marcaros, who start naked and the briton marcaros loses his pant when his level increases. Only the fanatic should be totally naked.
That's weird. Normally, it shouldn't be like that. I will check this evening.
12 hours ago, Sennacherib said:sorry it is in french. you can see at 19 min, the different gallic warriors, the guy with the basic shield would be a better addition to the game to replace the current naked dude with a cape.
I will watch it this evening. I speak French, this is my mother tongue (I am Swiss).
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6 hours ago, Sennacherib said:
In fact the greek representations of the celts are not accurate at all. their art represent the vision of them through their own culture. A naked barbare is a barbare idealized and stereotyped. Don't forget that nudity for the greeks was very symbolic. I read tons of book about the celts/gauls/celtiberian etc and the nudity in fight is not seriously considered a certainty
I disagree that it is a stereotypical barbarian depiction. The Thracians and the Scythians weren't depicted regularly as naked by the Greeks. Nor the Germans and the Dacians by the Romans. Only Celts have been depicted consistently like this.
Above, I showed you different evidences from Etruscans, Greeks and Romans but also from native Celtiberians and Venetians.
In addition, we have at least two accounts mentioning Celtic warriors fighting naked. Even if the Greeks and the Romans exaggerated their depictions, it is difficult to dismiss all those evidences.
In the game, there is only one unit naked. Other units start bare-chested and gain body armor with experience.
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1 minute ago, Sennacherib said:
Please for the next release give clothes to the celts. they weren't naked at all. I could even say that the basic adretos naked with only a cape, seems ridiculous.
1. Not all the Celts are "naked" in the game. This is an exaggeration.
2. It is not that rare to fight naked or bare-chested in ancient times.
3. There are evidences for the Celts:
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On 22/09/2022 at 6:39 PM, alre said:
I think the hard/soft counter debate is meaningless for rts design, they are both legit choices depending on how those units are designed.
In the case of a historical RTS, this is an important point because hard counters are generally unhistorical... although it is necessary to make compromises for a game, I find the article interesting for understanding the gameplay.
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20 minutes ago, nifa said:
This one is by far the most famous one. But it's from 6th century, isn't that too late?
This kind of fibula is already used during the 5th century.
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20 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
@Genava55 Iberians?
https://www.laaventuradelahistoria.es/vaso-de-los-guerreros-ibero
https://elcorso.es/reportaje-el-arte-ibero/
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pátera_ibera_de_Perotito
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arte_íbero
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escultura_ibérica
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pintura_ibérica
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerámica_ibérica
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1 hour ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
I'll turn that into the Gauls one! It's currently a "Scythians" one, but I'll find something more apt for the Scythians.
The resources should not be lacking in the forum
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Civ: Germans (Cimbri, Suebians, Goths)
in Delenda Est
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The Roman Coolus is a bronze helmet. Some of them belong to Imperial Italic serie.
https://www.res-bellica.com/en/tag-prodotto/coolus-en/
The evolution is probably from the late Montefortino
Montefortino => Buggenum => Coolus type C
Maybe there is a bit of influence from the Coolus-Mannheim which is Celtic (and in bronze). But I think the Buggenum is a better explanation.
This is a Port helmet. This is the ancestor of the Imperial Gallic, not of the Coolus.