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  1. I like running because it's easy to get started, you can do it by yourself, and it's fun to improve your time :P

    I also just got elected captain, but that isn't really much of a surprise since I am the only senior on the team. I'll try postinn some pictures of my next meet on Sat., my parents weren't at this one because my sister had a horse show the same day :P

  2. Fall sports had a wet start here in Cleveland. Today we had a cross country race (5k), I ran an 18:05 to get 8th place (a few less than 100 total I'm guessing) and finished behind two team-mates who finished 3rd and 7th. Overall my team placed 2nd, which is pretty good because there were quite a few Division I schools there, and we're D II.

    The course was pretty wet and muddy after an hour or so of rain, but it cleared up right before my race :P

    It looks like we should have a good team this year, since we always peak at the right time, in the postseason. I hope to get my time under 16:50 by the end of the season, get all-Ohio, and team place in top three.

    So anyone else participating in fall sports this year? Share your conquests, goals, etc :P

  3. You can prove that the ocean is full of salt with simple measurements.
    I know it sounds like a small quibble, but its important point that we prove the ocean where we measure it, not everywhere else (by only the measurements). We assume the rest of the ocean is salty because of other verified theories of things like diffusion, and similar salt-water based life all over the ocean. Be careful when using the term 'scientific proof', it is not the same thing as a logical or mathematical proof.

    OK back to an earlier post:

    Probability

    -Let's say you had a cup with ten dice numbered sequentially from 1 to 10, and you wanted to roll them and have them come out in order. The chances of that happening are 1 in 3,628,800 - 10 factorial. We have 206 bones in our bodies. The probability that each bone could be placed in order via random mutations is 206 factorial - an enormously large number! If one combination could be tested every second, very conservative estimates show that the chances of a generally correct bone system by random is less than once in 10 billion years.

    Why assume our bones are placed randomly? Although mutations _are_ random, evoution is not. Imagine rolling ten dice until you get a one, then roll the other dice until you get a two, three, and so on. Obviously this would be much quicker.

    "The likelihood of the formation of life from inanimate matter is one out of 10^40,000." Sir Fred Hoyle, professor of astronomy, Cambridge University

    -Um, this quote is from an 'professor of astronomy', not a biologist. Would you ask a chef to fix your car? Even the quote was from a biologist (and not taken out of context, which is a frequent tactic of Creationists :D ) quotes do not change the validity of theories. If a scientist actually finds evidence against evolution, he should publish it in a peer-reviewed journal and become very rich and famous. Unfortunately, this hasn't been done yet.

    - no transitional forms today

    As I stated earilier, a transitional form is simply a theoritical border. Of course there aren't catdogs, since those species already developed towards a cat or dog. How would we know which animals will live on earth in the next billion years? Transitional forms are applicable for the past, not the future or the present.

    -This is fallacious thinking. Evolution isn't something that just 'happened' and has now stopped. Dogs are by no means 'completed' and may change in the future. So, maybe 'dogs' are really half 'future-dogs' :D but now we are just playing word games.

    - Perfect Conditions

    There isn't life on Venus. There are billions of billions of planets, so it's not unlickely one planet had the right conditions. Those are also our conditions to survive, there are species that can liver under conditions we can't. Fish that live several kilometers under water, insects that live in a desert. What if life on Mars is found? It's already quite lickely that there were bacterial life forms on Mars.

    This is what is called 'anthrocentric' thinking. Conditions do seem perfect for human life on earth, don't they? (other than the tornadoes, floods, hurricains, earthquakes, blizzards, etc anyways :) ) That is because we are adapted to this planet. If intelligent life evolved on some other planet I'm sure they would be thinking the same thing! Out of the billions and billions of planets out there, there's bound to be one of everything... so I don't think it's odd that there is one like Earth.

    HIGHLY RECOMMENDED READ:

    http://www.talkorigins.org/

    This site has everything! Many overviews of creationist claims, misconceptions on evolution, etc. Is pro-evolution, but trust me, you will learn a lot if you read with an open mind (I have never seen a scientific site that is creationist anyways :D , and trust me, I have looked )

  4. I should be writing an English essay, but here I go... :D

    First off, let me point something out before moving on. We can probably all agree that there is such a thing as 'absolute truth'. Many people attempt to deny the existence of absolutes, saying that "everything is relative". (Are you "absolutely" sure of that?) 2 + 2 = 4, not 6 or 97 or 50...  If we can agree that there is absolute truth, regardless of someone's belief in it, that makes our job much easier: all we have to do is find the absolute truth!
    Well I don't think there are absolute truths. Math does not necessarly corrrespond to reality, it is abstract. Also, math is 'axiomatic' so 2+2 = 4 because we assign 2 and 4 to arbitrary imaginary values and we assume the addition function.
    How do scientists prove or disprove a theory or claim? Through proof. It is one thing to create a theory or hypothesis, but quite another to prove it.

    How do you find proof for something? Through logic, tests, measurements, and so on. Someone could create a grand theory that ocean water is full of sugar, rather than salt, but simple tests will show that the ocean is most assuredly salt water. Therefore, the theory has been disproved through a simple measurement.

    No, I disagree. Science works the other way around. Scientists make a theory to fit data, then publish it (or do whatever else), and then everyone tries to disprove it. We know that reindeer don't fly, right? But could it be possible that we just haven't seen a flying reindeer yet? A scientific theory could be "Flying reindeer have never been observed, they do not exist on earth" (until one is spotted that is, then it's changed). My point is that science is never proved, only disproved.

    *I'll respond to the rest after school today :D

  5. For the purpose of the thread (a noble and inspiring cause indeed) I think Red should clarify exactly what this topic is about, because right now I'm a bit confused. Evulution? Christianity? Something else?

    Although the start of the universe is fascinating talk, evolution only goes back to the first life on earth, not back to the "beginning". So maybe another thread for universe theories would be appropiate?

    *takes off pseudo-moderator mask* :D

    To respond to

    There are no facts that prove creation or evolution wrong believe it or not, it the interpretation of those facts.

    Evolutionist don't dig up bones and try to figure out what happened to them and where they lived ect., they make up a story that they take to the evidence

    A scientific theory (like evolution) is simply a hypothesis verified by evidence. Scientific theories are not like CSI: Miami theories in the sense of truth-value. So, the theory is fit to the facts. If more evidence is found that goes against the theory, which happens a lot, it is simply changed or discarded and replaced by a new one (an example is Newton's and Einstein's physiscs, which does not explain the many weird things that happen with very tiny particals). :) Creationist 'science' on the other hand is inherently not science in the true definition of the word, because they already have the 'theory' (i.e. Bible) and fit, stretch, or even ignore the data to match that theory.

    And that's why intelligent design should not be taught in Ohio high school too! I can't believe this is even an issue :D

  6. Well there are 'standards' for organic food (one thing you have to understand about the US is that there are statutory laws for pretty much anything.. any situation :D ) but I'm not totally convinced it's worth the extra price. I personally like the more 'natural' food (and fresh bread mmm) without preservatives and such. However, preservatives are there for a reason: to preserve food. Americans buy food at the supermarket once a week, not daily (at least around here).

    As for GM foods, I think we have all probably eaten a lot more than we think (without immediate ill effects)... but that certainly doesn't change the economic situation:

    The spread of GM seeds to American farmers was made on the basis of fraudulent promises of major productivity gains and significantly lower chemical pesticide use. Reality does not support this; in fact the opposite seems the case. In 2001 Dr Charles Benbrook presented results of analysis of the economics of Bt Maize (corn). He found that over three years US farmers paid large price premiums for GM seeds and ended with a net loss of $92 million or $1.31 per acre from it. Benbrook also found that the “planting of 550 million acres of GE corn, soybeans and cotton in the United States since 1996 has increased pesticide use by about 50 million pounds.” So-called ‘herbicide tolerant’ crops, which require far more use of special herbicides than normal plants, have been specially GM developed to insure that farmers who grow the GM corn or other crops are forced to buy the GM herbicide from the same company, such as Monsanto’s Roundup.4

    4 “Farmer Income: seeds of doubt” by Norfolk Genetic Information Network, 24 October 2002. members.tripod.com. or www.non-gm-farmers.com.

    (same website)
  7. Here's an interesting site on just human evolution:

    http://www.becominghuman.org/

    it has 3 different versions of possible 'family trees'*, and tons of other info about how they interpret evidence found (like dating fossils). It also has info on many species like Australopithecus aferensis (brain size: 380 - 500 cm3) to Homo neanderthalensis (brain size: 1300 - 1750 cm3).

    *- Just because there is debate about specific points within evolution doesn't mean scientists actually debate "Evolution" itself. So, I guess before this deteriorates into another atheist vs christian thread, can anyone explain off human lineage and make a better point for Creationism? Or how about evidence for a flood?

  8. I like that USB thing, I think I'll go with that next time I stop by an office store. Maybe if I'm lucky Adam will help pay for it (since the tapes are for him) but last time he owed me $10 he payed me with hot dogs :D

  9. ok,

    If you have found a "flaw" (I havent found any) in Christianity, just post it here and I'll give you info on it if I can.

    Do contradictions in the Bible count, or is this a discussion of evolution? If it's the latter, then I guess I have to say wait until you take biology in high school/college before you immediately form an opinion on the subject (I'm assuming your profile is correct)

    I'm sorry if that sounds condescending, I'm not trying to... It's just that too many people have misconceptions on evolution that simply are not true (i.e. humans descended directly from monkeys, or that there are no transitional fossiles).

    Anyways, I guess a good point for Creationism to start would be Genesis. Which one do you think is true, 1 or 2?

    Gen.1:25-27

    (Humans were created after the other animals.)

        And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image.... So God created man in his own image.

    Gen.2:18-19

    (Humans were created before the other animals.)

        And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

    Source
  10. Well upgrading my graphics card is an option, since I'm still stuck with whatever came in this Dell (I don't even know what :D ) I am hesitant though since its 99% likely I'll be buying a new computer for myself next year.

    I am not really concerned about quality too much right now either, since my camera is not too high-quality anyways.

  11. Hey everyone I was wondering what would be a good way to convert a VHS to something digital. I don't really want to spend more than $50, but I guess I could spend up to about $100 if necessary. I have no idea about converting so any help is welcome.

    BTW the contents of these videos are top-secret so don't even ask :D

  12. I think our diet has changed radically in last 50-100 years, more so than probably 1,000 years before that. More processed carbohydrates, fatter feed-lot meat (as opposed to natural grazing) and tons of preservatives and artificial flavoring (and don't let 'natural flavoring fool you, often times its the same exact chemical, only derived from some 'natural' source)

    Back to the topic, I believe that a 'fear of the unknown' is quite natural, and maybe even justified in this case, since we don't really have many long term studies (unless there's some kind of conspiracy :D )

    And there are economic effects as well. Most biotech companies, IIRC, are American, and a few are probably European.

  13. actually, I edited the original... so don't give me that much credit :D

    I'll post the like where I found all those scans later when I have time, If there's any copyright issues it IS originally 'The Horse Whisperer' if you didn't know...

  14. I like the first spiral one, I like doing that abstract stuff too (learned a lot of photoshop over the summer). Just to show off my latest DVD creation:

    catfish_whisperercover.th.jpg

    coming to a store near you :D

    and something from when I was experimenting with a grid effect:

    bluegrid1.th.jpg

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