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    WFG Gameshow

    in Fun and Games

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    Black Op got the second half of the question, while Gary Gigax was his inventor (i dunno if he's the GURPS inventor, but i doubt: GURPS came out after D&D), Vaevictis Music got the first half: the first RPG was D&D. Who got the right answer then? Imho, since GURPS is a D&D descended system, Vaevictis should be the winner, but a praise goes to Blackie too, of course... (y)

    Did Atlantis Exist?

    in Hall of Intellectuals

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    Well Thor Heierthal had some exentric theories, but I think he was the label of archeologist/historian worthy. I can't remember his name, but an amateur historian once wrote a book about the easter island with theories about aliens having built those statues. The book was very popular, tons of copies were sold.

    I believe, with the Kon-Tiki expedition, Heierthal did prove something. It's very likely that Incas have travelled to Easterisland (don't know about other Polynesian islands), there's more and more proof for that.

    Anyway, the whole Easterisland thing isn't so spectacular as some people would like to be it. I believe that there was a Polynesian population and also a small population of South-American settlers. Those settlers built the statues and lived in 'harmony' with the natives. However, they were the leading class and because of a growth of population there were less and less trees. This lead to problems and at some point the natives must have started a revolution against the settlers (only a few decades before the island was discovered). The settlers eventually became the lower class and became extinct.

    Of course this is not to be taken as fact ;)

    Well, a part the Heiderthal-unknown historian dispute, i read (just yesterday or saturday) an article that asserted a different point of view (if you care to wait, i'll pull it out to check better): polynesians were the only inhabitant of the Easterisland, but they were divided into "classes". The ruling one endeavoured this enterprise of erecting the statues, but at a so high cost, that the ecosystem of the island (once covered with forests) was stripped apart and Easterisland civilization declined to the point of being unable to build ships but by putting toghether (with a much ingenious method) tiny pieces of wood.

    (y)

    Did Atlantis Exist?

    in Hall of Intellectuals

    Posted

    Nope Argalius, that was not. They followed a much more southern route and arrived in some french "possession" in polynesia... ...anyway: i'll check out from the book this evening...

    (y)

    Hmm, in a book I read that a Dutch men discovered it on, how do you call it, first easterday (?!?!?). And then he called it Paaseiland, wich means Easterisland.

    Argalius, i was referring to Eidherthal wacky experiment: he did not touched Easter Island, but travelled past it, i do not doubt the island was "discovered" by ducth explorers... ;)

    Did Atlantis Exist?

    in Hall of Intellectuals

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    from Peru to some polinesian island

    That polinesian island was Easterisland, which was, of course ;) , discovered by a Dutch men.

    Nope Argalius, that was not. They followed a much more southern route and arrived in some french "possession" in polynesia... ...anyway: i'll check out from the book this evening...

    (y)

    "Like Father like son, one term and you're done!"

    in Hall of Intellectuals

    Posted

    Just to point out: indipendence does not always mean "more democraqtic representation".

    A good example is nowadays countries from the former Yugoslavia: Croatia, Serbia, Montenegro or Kossovo (not to talk about Macedonia or Albania)... Other good examples are Georgia (many foregin observers state that the recent polls were controlled by either intimidation or corruption by the present First Minister) or other similar parties.

    Did Atlantis Exist?

    in Hall of Intellectuals

    Posted

    Well, there was an archeologist, whose name was Thor Eidherthal, who believed that Inca's pyramids were copyed by Egypt ones, after some egyptians travelled across the ocean. To prove this he tried two times to cross the Atlantic with a cane boat (the first time the boat didn't resist the trip and wrecked, the second time he was succesful). The boat was called Ra, like the sun god from Egypt.

    Another of his enterprises was the one in wich he travelled on a balsa-wood raft across the pacific, from Peru to some polinesian island, to prove that the polynesians were influenced by some people from southern America (the raft was called Kon-Tiki, after the hero of a polynesian legend that accounts of this "emigration").

    A part from the theories (he's the only one to support them), if you have the chance to read the books he wrote (Kon.Tiki being the first) read them: they're quite entertaining!

    (y)

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