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3.The people of the Han Dynasty did not use bamboo to build walls. If it is a temporary camp wall, it will be made of wood. If it is a permanent facility wall, a half-meter thick wall will be built with rammed earth.
4.The Han Dynasty used wood to build boats for fishing, powered by paddles and sculls, rather than bamboo rafts.
5.The "Mao"（矛） used by the Han army is about 4.5 meters long and will not be used with a shield, while the shorter "Ji"（戟） and "Sha" （铩）will.
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Here is a summary of my opinions on some of the problems that have existed in the Han of Alpha 26 since the beginning of this year.
1.Han women dress similarly to men, wearing "Shen Yi"（深衣） instead of skirts.
2.The main crops of the Han Dynasty were millet and wheat rather than rice.
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This painting can provide a reference, the soldiers of the Han army use halberds and shields, and the soldiers who use pike.
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1 hour ago, Lion.Kanzen said:
现在的地图更容易适应亚热带生物群系，因为我们没有创建华北地图所需的一切。
华北在生物群落层面如何？
Wild animals in North China include leopards, tigers, black bears, wolves, jackals, phasianus colchicus linnaeus, wild boars, tadorna ferruginea, and swans.
Simple ornamental plants are chrysanthemum, orchid, peony
Pine, cypress, bamboo, willow, locust, ginkgo can be used as wood sources.
Peach trees, plum trees, apricot trees, pear trees, plum trees, jujube trees, and persimmon trees can be used as food sources. -
7 分钟前，斯坦` 说：
我们不能再更改任何模板字符串，也不能更改任何面向用户的字符串（今天是个例外），否则翻译人员将没有时间完成 9 月版本。 我们已经迟到了六个月，这意味着士气和动力下降，所以我不会再拖延了。
I hope these comments can be included in the plan, I know they should be addressed in Alpha 27.
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Another problem is that I found that foreigners' understanding of China often comes from the coastal South China in the past 100 years, and the Han Dynasty we want to make is actually a country with North China as its core. At that time, the population of North China accounted for the whole country. 80% of the total population, while only 20% in southern China.
Therefore, no matter the map or the architectural style, the main reference aspect should be North China in that era.
The content currently produced is very insufficient in awareness of this, leading to some problems, I will give a few examples:
1. The Han Dynasty did not use bamboo to build boats. Fishing boats should be wooden boats with swaying oars.
2. The Han Dynasty did not use bamboo to build walls or other buildings, but used wood, rammed earth and stone.
3. The main crops of the Han Dynasty were not rice, but wheat, millet, panicum miliaceum.
4. The main livestock in the Han Dynasty were cattle, pigs, and sheep, of which cattle were divided into buffalo and cattle, both of which can be used to pull plows, but generally cattle pull carts, and it should be noted that neither should appear in the corral In China, because the Han Dynasty positioned cattle as farm animals and prohibited slaughtering, Chinese pigs are black pigs that look a lot like wild boars but have no tusks, and goats are not much different from today's goats. -
Although I hope that the ships of the Han Dynasty can be remade, I don’t know if it’s too late, and the image restoration of early Chinese ships is not very good, and the same is true for Chinese ballistas, so I will find someone to draw a sketch that conforms to the basic historical facts. , to be reworked in the next alpha request.
But right now, I think at least remove this weird ship from the game, I have absolutely no idea what it is, or replace it with a fire ship.
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2 小时前，AIEND 说：
这也是我之前强调留剑士的原因，因为在战斗中，中国人习惯让持剑的士兵持盾站在第一排，持枪的士兵站在剑士的身后。 如果剑士被撤掉，汉军就没有带盾的士兵了。
However, according to the materials I just found, there is actually another way, which is to let JiShou wear a shield, because in the Han Dynasty and earlier, the Chinese had two ways to use Ji, one is to use a shorter halberd. Shields are used, one is the longer Ji without a shield, and the images of the two can be seen on the lines of some pre-Han bronzes.
If you feel that the current data of Han soldiers are too unique and inconvenient to adjust, I suggest that you can change the P1 melee soldiers from Mao to Ji, and let the soldiers holding halberds hold shields. The data does not need to be different from that of ordinary spearmen. Changed the original P2 Ji to a swordsman, and changed the P3 HuBen at the Imperial Academy to a pikemen without a shield.
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18分钟前，古尔肯汗说：
我没有找到清单，但不是还有“我会服从”之类的吗？
https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/Audio_Voice_List
Action – English order_build – I will build. order_walk - I will walk. order_repair - I will repair. order_attack - I will attack! I will go out against them! I will march! I will retreat! Battle cry. order_gather - I will gather. I will fish. I will hunt. I will work land. I will herd. order_guard - I will guard. order_garrison - I will garrison. order_patrol - I will patrol. order_trade - I will trade. order_heal - I will heal. select – What is it? My lord?
This is the list. I dubbed the Chinese voice based on the content of the English voice.
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There is one more question, I was preparing to dub, but found that in the list of economic-related voices, the voices for collecting fruit, wood, stone, and metal are all one sentence, which makes us feel embarrassed, because there is no general-purpose " to collect" verbs to refer to so many different kinds of resources.
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2 小时前，Stan` 说：
@wowgetoffyourcellphone 你能修好它吗？
This is also the reason why I emphasized keeping the swordsman before, because in the battle, the Chinese are accustomed to let the soldiers with swords stand in the first row with their shields, and the soldiers with spears and halberds stand behind the swordsmen. If the swordsmen were removed, the Han army would have no soldiers with shields.
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I forgot whether I said before, the Chinese don't actually use shields and spears at the same time, so the MaoBing (spearmen) of the Han army in the game does not exist in the history.
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20 小时前，AIEND 说：
适合的动物也很多，象、犀牛、丹顶鹤、华南虎、狼、豺、黑熊、扬子鳄等。汉代中国野生动物的种类非常丰富。
I forgot there were leopards and wild boars。
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12 小时前，Lion.Kanzen 说：
这是一个很好的主意。
Indeed, instead of emphasizing the hospital, it is better to emphasize the doctor, whichever ship the doctor arrives at, or enters a building facility, the ship or the building should have the ability to treat the garrison.
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12 小时前，Lion.Kanzen 说：
在游戏（或森林）中无法用墙关闭它们的问题再次非常小。
很难用墙壁围住大面积。
After all, cities are mainly concentrated in industrial, commercial, religious, government, military camps and other facilities. Agriculture is scattered in the countryside outside the city walls. In fact, I hope that agriculture can be as far away as possible from CC, as is mining.
If we want to defend a large area, we still need to make more use of natural terrain, such as rivers, mountains, forests, and build passes in these places. Even China, which is famous for building the Great Wall, does not think that manpower alone can build walls. Alternative to natural terrain.
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12 小时前，Lion.Kanzen 说：
是否有任何特定的生物群落或地图上传，你推荐任何地区吗？
Not yet, I haven't been involved in map making, and I don't know if any other Chinese players are involved.
In terms of recommended regions, Guanzhong关中, Hetao河套, Shandong山东, Peiping北平, and Liaodong辽东 are all good. These places are often related to the war between the Han Dynasty and Xiongnu. I rarely recommend South China, because these South China had a small population during the Han Dynasty. Not much is known about these places. -
6 小时前，Lion.Kanzen 说：
在这个 alpha 中，最好建墙。 确实。
0A.D 和城墙的问题在于它们不是用来关闭自然边界，而是用来创建有围墙的城市。
Yes, surrounding the city with walls at the same time only limits the expansion of the city, so Iberia's walls at the beginning of the game are not so popular.
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3小时前，笑脸说：
随着汉族的加入，来自中国的通用生物群落消失了。 我们必须完善并承诺这一点，至少是与汉族相关的生物群系。
我们还需要一些新的动物群。 也许熊猫在这一点上已经成为一种象征。 牲畜和可猎物也是如此。
There are also many suitable animals, such as elephants, rhinos, red-crowned cranes, South China tigers, wolves, jackals, black bears, Chinese alligators, etc. The species of Chinese wild animals in the Han Dynasty were very rich.
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9 分钟前，Lion.Kanzen 说：
任何视觉示例？
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5 hours ago, Tyrannosaurus said:
中国北方，一个有樱花和竹子的温带生物群落。
During the Han Dynasty, the climate in North China was close to subtropical, so there was also abundant bamboo in North China. In addition, the cherry blossom variety in China was cerasus serrulata.
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6 小时前，Lion.Kanzen 说：
我没说100%一样。
这是一个拥有更多生命值和抗性的CC。
I hope the CC is weaker and easier to rebuild. Players should use walls and forts to protect the CC, which should be inside the town, instead of exposing the CC to the outside to resist the enemy.
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9 小时前，Lion.Kanzen 说：
它已经计划好了，就像 AoM 的市中心一样。
https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Fortified_Town_Center
拆分主题。
[设计] CC 和超越 CC 的返工。
This is not the same. The Civic Center in AoM must be built at a fixed location on the map, so CC needs to be fortified, while the Civic Center in 0 AD is more like Rise of Nations. Around this building, it first forms a economic center.
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3 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said:
我突然想到CC应该有3种演变。
1-军事要塞像城堡一样集中在军事奖励中。 用奴隶代替村民。 将一些 SC 替换为冠军或雇佣兵。将一些 SC 替换为冠军或雇佣兵。
2-公民文化独特的技术和单位用支持单位代替军事。
3-政府中心。
新技术，用冠军单位取代 CC，并可以像 AoE III 中那样创建民兵。 cc 不再是 dropsite 。
I'm only in favor of item 2, CC should be demilitarized, instead of trying to get CC to get the features that Fortress had in Alpha 23, why not just restore those features to Fortress? Should allow fortresses to be built and train champions and mercenaries in neutral areas.
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于 2022 年 7 月 22 日下午 2:58，Lion.Kanzen 说道：
我绝对喜欢 AoE 中的公羊队。
Me too, from Alpha 23 to Alpha 26, Battering Ram has always given me the worst part of my gaming experience.
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Make the Han Dynasty more in line with history.
in Rise of the East
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In fact, I'm thinking that other factions should also add brick or stone walls as "courtyard walls", because in the game, including military camps, we build permanent town facilities. Compared with palisades, it requires a long-term used wall.