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  1. We're doing that with our own project.

    They'll have plenty of complainers to 'enlighten' them. I've always saw TLA as a way to accomplish a similar thing.. One of TLA's goals is to educate the public about what Tolkien actually wrote, not what we turn it into out of corporate greed and self-serving [oscar] interests...

  2. *memories of an old forum thread pass by*

    I've always identified with Fëanor. Tall, dark haired, lover of creating things, inventor, fiery, wrathful at times, very headstrong, always seems to know where he's going, plus he's kind of the blacksheep of the Noldor, he's kind of in his own class and I like that :)

    That or Tuor. Tuor is probably another character I identify well with - he aims to be a master of lore, of craft - hewing of rock and marble, crafts of weaving and spinning, broidure and painting, cunning in metals. He was also a musician, as am I, and he learned to "entwine" and compose melodies. And yet for all his lore and artfulness, he was still a master of the physical and was a master of his will and spirit.

    And I also identify with Faramir, to a lesser degree. Faramir has his own goals, idols, and ideas for himself - he's not a slave to expectation, but yet loves his father who expects him to be a different person. I like how Faramir is both valiant and a strong fighter, but at the same time quite knowledgeable of lore and how he longs for the days of Númenor.

    So I guess in that order, Fëanor, Tuor, and Faramir, I see parts of my character.

  3. Hopefully so. It might be that you can select the ammunition of the catapult, but this kind of thing we'd consider "icing on the cake". Since Tolkien makes a point about it in RotK, though, we consider it at the top of the "icing of the cake" list, however :)

  4. Good review. I also felt it was rushed - but I suppose it had to be to fit 1.5 books + a book of made-up stuff into one movie!

    Speaking of the Army of the Dead, wouldn't it have been better to add a scene at Pelargir, where Aragorn takes the fleet of the pirates of Umbar with the help of the Dead? This way they could gather the reinforcements required for the battle - human reinforcements that would have won the battle through actual, epic and dramatic fighting, not through an opportunistic fake ghost army that came out of nowhere.

    Yep it would have.

    The battle would have benefited a lot if the Grey Company had come from the north to meet Aragorn and give him his banner - no need to bring Elrond in an unrealistic journey; come on, an Elven lord, travelling alone without an escort, in times of war! -. If the Grey Company had come, we would have some Dúnedain rangers in the battle, all of them similar to Aragorn when he was Strider, and we would also have Elladan and Elrohír, Elrond's sons.

    Yeah I agree. And it did in the books.

    A feature that was ignored and wouldn't have harmed the movie length, but would have added a lot to the drama of Minas Tirith, would have been the day without dawn, and the darkness Sauron casts upon Gondor. After re-reading the chapters of the siege of Gondor and the battle of the Pelennor fields, I feel the movie doesn't do a good enough job for them. There's too much missing. Everything is reduced to a FX feast.

    I concur. The darkening of the skies is what makes the battle dramatic, what makes the battle so perilous, and what makes the stakes so high. It shows that Sauron will engulf all of middle earth, not just one city, in shadow, if Minas Tirith would have fallen.

    The battle, in the book, is very long - a couple of days.

    Yep, as I've said in the purist complaints thread, it lasted 3 days, the siege was on the first two days, and the battle started on the 15th of march. The first two days and nights had the orcs building fortifications and trenches in the Pelennor. This was completely skipped, so that PJ could show off his excessive amounts of orcs on screen. He could have made a much more interesting and emotional battle, but instead he opted to make it into a commercial, video-game-like SFX fest.

    I think you're right next to me in my opinion of the movie. You should read my purist comments in the other thread :)

  5. :brow:

    And while George Bush can get the vicarious rush of watching a filmed battle sequence, I actually left some blood on the battlefield."

    Yes, now that I think of it, Tolkien did write about a character named Kerry, but I never made the connection ;)

    Candidate Dennis Kucinich said, "I told you Bush was false. I told you he was tricksy."

    LOL Kucinich should have played Gollum in the movies. Perfect.

    Al Sharpton rails that racism prevails since the "Black Riders" are the bad guys.

    Well actually, Sharpton has a point there :D Tolkien describes orcs as very Mongolian or Hunnic, and the other evil men are either "Black with red tongues and yellow eyes" "troll men", or described like Goths or other 'barbarian tribes' .

  6. Hmm...

    Well Fingolfin really messed up Morgoth, who was HUGE and not to mention, Morgoth, a Vala, so I think Fingolfin could give Gothmog a run for his money.

    Actually, Ecthelion slew Gothmog, and he was just an elf-captain, not the king of Elves, descended from Finwë and Indis, so I think Fingolfin would give Gothmog a sound beating.

  7. The maximum villager units you can "garrison" in a mineshaft is both dependent on the civ and the technology researched. Mineshaft technologies can increase both the gather rate of the mineshaft and the number of miners allowed in it.

    What elf means though is that if we make it so that mines gather resources rather slowly, then it would encourage players to build more mines, so that altogether the resources are being gathered quickly.

  8. You know, I was thinking - The Lord of the Rings is a single legend in the larger mythology Tolkien created.

    Like any real-world legend, it can be retold in a number of ways, because different cultures pass down different versions of the same legend, or because in storytelling, a specific version of the legend is better suited to an audience.

    Well I've come to view the movies as simply another way of telling the same legend. Sure, things are different - but the legend itself as a whole stays very true to the original, right?

    Now with all of this said, I still think what Tolkien wrote will always be superior to anything else, because it was from HIS mind, after all, but I think if we look at the movies in this way, it gives them a lot of credibility, and may even serve to complement the legendary nature of Tolkien's works.

  9. Sukkit, I found this from an interview with David Salo:

    Q. In The Fellowship of the Ring , parts of the music for the Balrog chase scene in Moria contained a chorus of male voices chanting/singing in a strange, dark-sounding language that didn't sound like anything I had ever heard before. Could you provide some enlightenment as to what this language is and perhaps a rough translation?

    A. The language you heard is what I sometimes call "Neo-Khuzdul" or New Dwarvish. It's based on or inspired by the few Dwarvish words and names which Tolkien created and which have been published; but since Tolkien did not provide us anything regarding the grammar of Dwarvish (except a vague hint that it might be like Hebrew), and only gave us a very small vocabulary, something like 90% of this language is a new invention--by me. It sounds like Khuzdul, but I am sure that in structure and vocabulary it is much more different from what Tolkien would have created than any of the Elvish.

    Part of what you hear goes like this:

    Fire in the deep! Urus ni buzra!

    Flames lick our skin! Arrâs talbabi fillumâ!

    Fear rips our heart! Ugrûd tashniki kurdumâ!

    No! No! No! Lu! Lu! Lu!

    The demon comes! Urkhas tanakhi!

    Some of the things you can see here are the construction of verbs with the prefix ta- (for third person): talbabi "lick", tashniki "rips", tanakhi "comes"; the suffix -mâ for "our": fillumâ "our skin", kurdumâ "our heart". We have some related words, like urus "fire", arrâs "flame"; and some words that should look familiar, e.g. buzra "deep" (cf. bizar "valley, deep place" in Azanul-bizar), and urkhas "demon, balrog", related to rukhs "orc" much as Quenya rauco "demon" is related to urco "orc". So there is real linguistic structure there, and an homage to Tolkien's languages; but very little of it is genuine Tolkien.

    Sound familiar? If it's good enough for David Salo, it's good enough for us! :)

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