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Thanks Lion ! If this video helps, I could do more to show some of my build orders (the first 10mins) and maybe comment also.

did you check the video I put agentx ?

enjoy ! A few things, I didn't focus on managing my deposit stock for wood, and I think I could do it faster.

Mainland in the random maps I'll try thanks

I'll put a video soon. Does Fraps work on Mac ?

Yes I get to phase 2. My build order at the beginning is classic, some women on wood, then later transition to farms. Before phasing, I have 12 farms (60 womens) and it is enough to produce from 3 barracks and CC batches of 10 soldiers. I also have 15 soldiers on stone to make slingers, 10 soldiers on metal for upgrades, a market to trade my extra wood to food. If I new how to record a video, I would put it here to show you. If someone knows a good way/software for me to record a video while playing I'll do it. I'm on a mac by the way

Hey guys, I'd like to know the best timing of other players to reach the 300 pop limit. I did a few tests against the IA in really easy difficulty so it doesn't attack me. I reached 300 population with the britons in 16min with 60 women / 240 soldiers (infantry only) What's your timing ? (please give the time when you reach 300, with the number of women and tell if it's infantry only or infantry/cavalry mix) I just want to know if I can make it quicker or not. thx !

I think the reason is that Mario is OP

agreed, imo their is 4 things really too strong: - Ptolemes - Roman scorpions - Perisnas chariots - Sword cav against buildings

I've played against Lord with this build, I saw Lord with this build, it's a very good one ! Very original and agressive way to play, it will surprise many players.

too many romans here

I play britons and gauls mainly but also like to play athenians / mauryans / persians

I just stop producing from CC but not from Barrack, I have 110 pop when I phase so I'm stocking enought wood and food to phase without stopping production.

Hum I'd like to play against your cocooning strategy, I've never seen this among the top 10 players

yep, I agree with you for Mauryans, their late game however isn't so strong because their elephants are kind of weak

No, when I am phasing, I am producing units from barracks. So I really never stop production.

Strong civ phase 1 (early) --> Civ that have archers or slingers (britons, athenes, ptolemes, etc) Strong civ phase 2 (mid) --> Civ that have access to sword cav / archer cav / chariot (Celts / athenes / Mauryan / Persians etc) Strong civ phase 3 (late) --> I have no Idea yet ^^ but I'd say strong fortress, good siege, good champions --> Romans

Hey Panando, I use to play like this, with a heavy women start because it is actually very logical; you spend your food on women and your extra wood on upgrades/barracks/houses. BUT, after a few games, I started to invest early in the game my food+ my wood on soldiers. And I can tell you that you feel much safer than with a women heavy start, you'll be the one who is agressive and you'll be able to push back any rush. I disagree on the fact than 0AD early can be like stracraft for a few reasons. In starcraft 2 you expand fast to be able to produce more worker, in 0AD soldiers are workers and you can produce them in barracks and you can produce female in houses. In starcraft 2, a expansion is much more easy to defend than in 0AD. In starcraft 2 you expand fast for ressrouces, in 0AD you expand fast for territory. In my opinion, there is a general strategic balance problem on 0AD. In every strategy game there is a rule that is a good start for tactical balance: Offensive startegies win against economic strategies Economic strategies win against defense strategies Defense strategies win agasint Offensive strategies But in 0AD, I think that, at the moment, there is no viable defense strategie. Therefore Offensive strategies has no counter and economic strategies become weak.

I don't use this build anymore, but in my new one I still phase late (10min30) Can you develop ? why do you think first CC and soon phasing are important ? What do you get in the 2/3 min you are in phase 2 and i'm still in phase 1 ? (I'll get more army but what will you get ?) In my BO, I never stop producing female or solider, I'm not even saving for phasing, I continue producing from barrack and when I get the extra money I phase (and continue producing from barrack when phasing). If you stop production even for 2/3min, you'll be behind in economy and army size. Anyway she should settle this ingame

I played RTS for more than 10 years now. AoK and expansions AoM and expansions AoE3 Bfme 1 and 2 and expensions Starcraft 2 and expensions I played 0ad for about a month now. I agree, a player is more than a BO of course. I agree, a good BO needs speed but speed for me doesnt mean expand fast or phasing fast, speed means having more pop and upgrade than my enemi. OK, a fast expand give you many option for later in game but against good players you won't reach "later in game" with a fast expand.

I don't think phasing early or CC early is good in 0ad. And you say for a good player, building CC at 11/12min is normal. Please give me some names ^^. I'm rank 4 at the moment, I've never phase before 9min... I won against top players and in none of these game my enemy did a fast CC. The thing is, for example in starcraft, fast expanding clearly give you an economic advantage but in 0ad it's only for territory. And against good players that are quite agressive, that means more territory to defend. In my new BO, I phase at 10min30, and this worked against Wesono and Butcher so I don't feel that trying to improve a BO means trying to phase faster.

guys this build is Obsolete, i have a much better one now that make this one look ridiculous actually

@Peregrino, Thank you for testing man. About romans, I need more practice to post a good BO. But you are right, romans late game is awesome (Sword cav champions + scorpions are really strong units) With romans, I thought about making the same kind of harass I do with gauls but by using Cav Skirmisher following the same rule, when I reach phase 2 I want to be able to produce 15 cav skirmisher in a row for a good harass. I'll keep practicing with Romans and share my Build Order soon.

I start to have a good experience online and in my opinion, any good player will punish a fast transition to phase 2. I explain. Most of the player, when they see an ennemy fast phasing, they will stop doing their build order and start stocking ressources to phase (in order not to fall to much behind) BUT anygood player would scout at around 5/6min and will see that you are fast phasing. He will punish you very easily by going all in. I don't say that fast phasing is always bad but in my opinion it is too risky and it is very easy to counter.

Yes I forgot to put on the BO. During phasing I do 3 things, put 15 soldiers on metal, make 2 more barracks (to get to 3) and do 2 or 3 farms (with females on the wood) As you said this BO is just an example to help beginners, in game, after scouting the enemy i usually change some stuff. Tau used spearman fav indeed. No I don't use boom festival fertility