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Everything posted by greycat
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In the beginning of the game they would have only been referred to as Galatians by he Greeks since they didn't yet had conflict with Rome. Also Gaul would not have existed for hundreds of years later.
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according to Greek geographer, philosopher and historian Strabo, Romans created the word Germani to indicate they were the true Celts or Galatians in Greek. Caesar was the one that separated them in the first place. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/567832/Strabo The Celtic tribes were diverse and did not all believe in the same deities. There is no evidence they spoke one language.
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I speak English that does not mean I share there culture. I think genetics is just a tool.
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Also Romans changed language at least once and that did not stop them from being Roman.
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If we follow your model the Irish were to longer Celtic when they killed the last of the druids during the time of St. Patrick.
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Language has little to do with it also. I speak English. I am not English.
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My point is ancient scholars, modern archeology and modern DNA studies all conclude that the Germans are in fact Celts. "Of all the regions of Europe, southern Germany (notably the Baden-Württemberg) is thought to have inherited the most from these Celtic people, genetically." http://www.eupedia.com/europe/germany_austria_switzerland_dna_project.shtml
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It also does not coincide with modern genetic studies. The North of the Alps, at the border of modern Switzerland, Austria and Germany, was the cradle of the Celtic Hallstatt and La Tène cultures. The greatest technological advances of the Bronze age and Iron age in Europe came from that region. Of all the regions of Europe, southern Germany (notably the Baden-Württemberg) is thought to have inherited the most from these Celtic people, genetically. We will start by breaking one of the most erroneous clichés, i.e. the idea that Germany is fundamentally Germanic, or that all German people are ultimately of Scandinavian descent. This is not what DNA tells us. South-western Germany at least is first and foremost region of Celtic heritage. The S28 marker, defining haplogroup R1b1c10, is thought to coincide with La Tène Celtic descent. http://www.eupedia.com/europe/germany_austria_switzerland_dna_project.shtml
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Celt1: a member of a division of the early Indo-European peoples distributed from the British Isles and Spain to Asia Minor 2: a modern Gael, Highland Scot, Irishman, Welshman, Cornishman, or Breton The problem here is that (1) does not coincide with modern archeological evidence especially within the past 5 years.http://www.keltenwelt-glauberg.de/en/research-centre/the-celts/
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Another name for a German. Teuton 1: a member of an ancient probably Germanic or Celtic people.2: a member of a people speaking a language of the Germanic branch of the Indo-European language family; especially : germanhttp://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/teuton This is why I feel it is not a very good term... Rather than relating directly to this tribe, the broad term, Teutonic peoples or Teuton in particular, is used now to identify members of a people speaking languages of the Germanic branch of the Indo-European language family generally, and especially, of people speaking German.
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I must believe the various scholars that all agree that before Caesars idea they were all Celts.
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I really can't do that since he was the main proponent for using the term in the first place.
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Strabo, Greek geographer, philosopher and historian 64/63 BC – c. AD 24 .) Romans introduced the name Germani, because the Germanic tribes were the authentic Celts (γνησίους Γαλάτας). γνησίους Γαλάτας = genuine Galatians "The term 'Galatae' was used by the Greeks to denote these Celtic tribes." http://www.ancient.eu.com/galatia/
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Also if we are going to use the words they created we should at least try to understand what they meant by them. Not just stick with things for feeling of national pride i.m.o.
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Many archaeologists would disagree with you.
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When they called those languages Celtic it was a matter of national pride. It doesn't make the knowledge useless.
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You need to understand Caesar was a military general. That is why we need to look for actual scholars that lived during the same time for more information. Strabo, Greek geographer, philosopher and historian 64/63 BC – c. AD 24 .) Romans introduced the name Germani, because the Germanic tribes were the authentic Celts (γνησίους Γαλάτας). Yes we created are own meaning because we didn't understand what a Celt was.
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That is my point. Caesar used an arbitrary division the river Rhine for his division. It was not based on culture. We never understood that Germani just meant "authentic Celts". when we started labeling everything Celtic. Celtic culture was more diverse. This river has always down to the present time been considered the boundary, ever since these tribes gained their different names; for very anciently both peoples dwelling on either side of the river were called Celts. (Dio 39.47) Cassius Dio was a Roman consul and noted historian who wrote in Greek. AD 155 – 235
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Seleucids 190 BC
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Persian Asabari Axe-man and Javelin thrower Cavalry 4 BC
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La Tène culturehttp://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/326556/La-Tene-culture
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I don't mind them being called German in the game.
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Strabo, Greek geographer, philosopher and historian 64/63 BC – c. AD 24 .) Romans introduced the name Germani, because the Germanic tribes were the authentic Celts (γνησίους Γαλάτας).
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Also most of Hannibal's elephants died. I can't imagine imagine them carrying the added weight through the mountains. According to Polybius he arrived in Italy accompanied by 20,000 foot soldiers and 4,000 horsemen, and only a few elephants.
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Scythions at time of Alexander The Great and his campaigns.