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  1. What... I thought we were going with DRAGON as the name? (We had a nice discussion on IRC :P)

    21:42 < Aviv_> Can anyone change "qBot XP" to "Kronos"?

    21:42 < Geek377> Hello Aviv_

    21:42 < Aviv_> hi all

    21:42 < Mythos_Ruler> hi

    21:43 -!- Enrique [webchat@238.42.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #0ad-dev

    21:43 < Geek377> Meh... I think qBot xp shouldn't be Kronos... the name doesn't have a wow factor...

    21:43 < Mythos_Ruler> What about Zeus?

    21:43 <@historicbruno> "Geek377, historicbruno: The osx-source din't output a pyrogenesis in binaries/system" -- oops I missed this

    21:44 <@historicbruno> Geek377, you did update-workspaces? you used make?

    21:44 < Geek377> Yes.

    21:44 < Geek377> Mythos_Ruler: I think we overuse Greek mythology too much.

    21:44 <@historicbruno> if there's no pyrogenesis then the build must have failed

    21:45 <@historicbruno> try make again and see if there's any error in the output

    21:45 < Geek377> Hmmm there is pyrogenesis.exe.config

    21:45 < Mythos_Ruler> Geek377: Yes, but everyone knows it.

    21:45 < Mythos_Ruler> What about Xerxes?

    21:46 < Mythos_Ruler> Anyone? :)

    21:46 < Geek377> I liked the name Agamemnon... but historical figures isn't a good thing. What if the scenario has that figure in it?

    21:46 * Deiz would like to name the bot "Ed"

    21:46 * k776 doesn't approve of a separate player_trans_spec_helmet.xml just for helmets

    21:46 < Mythos_Ruler> Agamemnon is Greek mythology.... which you don't want to use. lol

    21:47 < Geek377> Like a Persian scenario involving Xerxes... player name would be Xerxes, bot name would be Xerxes. And no, I said we overuse it, not that I don't want it :P

    21:47 < Mythos_Ruler> k776: I can just turn up the specularity of the player_trans_spec material.

    21:47 <@Deiz> Or, perhaps we could use a disease with a base word derived from Greek

    21:48 <@historicbruno> I also don't like proper names

    21:48 <@Deiz> All hail the new AI, Pancreatitis

    21:48 < Mythos_Ruler> I liked Hephaestus myself.

    21:48 < Geek377> lol... only you Deiz

    21:48 <@historicbruno> but I don't know enough Greek or Latin roots to think of a good name for an AI

    21:48 <@k776> We seem to have an aweful lot of materials now: http://trac.wildfire...c/art/materials

    21:49 <@k776> It's a shame the conditional system downgrades materials rather than just effects

    21:49 <@historicbruno> a new material is the only way to change any of the parameters without affecting every model using the material

    21:49 -!- Yves` [~Yves@152-40.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #0ad-dev

    21:50 <@historicbruno> it wouldn't be bad IMO if actors could set those parameters and override the material :P

    21:50 < Geek377> http://chaoticshiny.com/namegen.php <--- Random name gen

    21:51 < Aviv_> How about "Mithras"

    21:51 < Geek377> Hmm... anyone considered Achilles?

    21:52 <@k776> I'd have combined <define /> and <conditional_define /> as well

    21:52 <@k776> e.g. http://pastie.org/4652891

    21:52 <@k776> (that format seems a lot cleaner to me)

    21:52 <@historicbruno> Mithras would be interesting :P

    21:52 <@k776> (thats combining player_trans_ao_spec.xml and player_trans_ao_parallax_spec.xml

    21:53 <@k776> Anyway

    21:53 < Enrique> Persian wonder, hanging gardens wip: http://img341.images...330/testmoi.jpg

    21:53 < Enrique> and another one: http://img217.images...750/test2zw.jpg

    21:53 <@Deiz> That looks pretty good.

    21:53 < Geek377> Nice +1

    21:53 <@historicbruno> oh hey, how about "Victor" :)

    21:54 < erik_feneur> +1 +1

    21:54 < Geek377> lol... whats the use of name that means the exact opposite :P

    21:54 <@k776> Or "Vector". Strikes with direction and magnitude

    21:54 <@k776> ^_^

    21:54 < erik_feneur> (I.e. those hanging gardens looks nice and Victor might be a good name)

    21:54 < erik_feneur> Vector :P

    21:54 -!- Enrique is now known as Enrique_away

    21:54 < Geek377> I think wonders should have a huge footprint... especially the hanging garden

    21:54 < Aviv_> +1

    21:55 <@historicbruno> Enrique_away, wow very nice!

    21:55 < Aviv_> Enrique_away, excellent work

    21:55 < leper> Mythos_Ruler: You told the truth

    21:55 < Enrique_away> thanks guys :)

    21:55 < Enrique_away> Geek377: it has the same footprint as the big pyramid in atlas

    21:55 < leper> Enrique_away: awsome

    21:55 < Geek377> Hmmm... vector works.

    21:56 < Aviv_> I wonder if we can decide on a name w/o the creator of the AI

    21:56 < Mythos_Ruler> Victor

    21:56 < Geek377> http://en.wikipedia....logical_objects

    21:56 < Geek377> How about an object? Rather than a figure or person?

    21:57 <@Deiz> Keep in mind that qBot-xp will likely be merged into qBot in the future

    21:57 <@Deiz> Leaving one AI

    21:57 <@historicbruno> Victor could be like the name, I've known people named Victor/Viktor, or it could be like the Latin, victorious/winner

    21:58 < Geek377> Helios... because no matter the outcome, the AI shines bright throughout the game :)

    21:58 <@Deiz> Lies.

    21:58 <@historicbruno> Helios is not bad

    21:58 <@Deiz> The AI completely stalls at times

    21:58 < Mythos_Ruler> Aegis

    21:58 < leper> Deiz: Stalios ;p

    21:59 < Mythos_Ruler> Aegis--Athena's shield endowed with the head of Medusa.

    21:59 < Mythos_Ruler> What about Gorgon?

    22:00 -!- ortalo [~ortalo@laf31-3-82-225-216-155.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: EOF from client]

    22:00 < Geek377> +1 for Aegis... Gorgon is just outright insulting to the lines of JS that make up the bot

    22:00 -!- Kimball [~Kimball@67-135-167-138.dia.static.qwest.net] has quit [Quit]

    22:02 < Aviv_> Well, let me know when you guys have made up your mind :P

    22:02 < Aviv_> I am off to sleep

    22:02 < Aviv_> Good night

    22:02 -!- Aviv_ [~chatzilla@93-173-164-43.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0/20120824154833]]

    22:02 <@Deiz> Testbot, JuBot, qBot... Aegis?

    22:02 <@Deiz> Needs more continuity.

    22:02 < erik_feneur> Aegisbot? ;)

    22:03 < Geek377> wraitii would probably just end up naming it another female star... like he did with marilyn :P

    22:03 <@historicbruno> Oh no, not Gagabot :(

    22:03 < Geek377> lol

    22:03 < Yves`> ro-bot

    22:03 < Yves`> :D

    22:03 < Geek377> xD

    22:04 <@historicbruno> DasBot :P

    22:04 < Yves`> but only if it supports ships well ;)

    22:04 < erik_feneur> It seems like we'll end up with nobot if we can't decide on a name :P

    22:05 <@Deiz> anonybot

    22:06 < Geek377> lol.... nobot

    22:06 < Geek377> Omega? because its the end for noobs?

    22:07 < Yves`> maybe we should decide later since it won't be the default bot in Alpha11 anyway (right?)

    22:07 <@historicbruno> nullbot ?

    22:09 < Yves`> Or just rename all bots like: Demo Bot, Bot V1, Bot V2 (stable), Bot V3 (experimental)

    22:09 < Yves`> This would at least make it clear

    22:09 < Geek377> How about [name] (difficulty)

    22:10 <@Deiz> I have the ultimate name

    22:10 < Yves`> I don't like naming them by difficulty

    22:10 <@Deiz> DRAGON: Dreadful Recursive Acronym; Generally Overwrought Nonsense

    22:10 <@historicbruno> difficulty is a bogus concept at this point :P

    22:11 <@Deiz> Actually, that's not recursive

    22:11 < leper> Deiz: That ain't recursive

    22:11 <@Deiz> It was, but I broke it :(

    22:11 <@Deiz> DRAGON Recurses Awfully; Generally Overwrought Nonsense <- Better

    22:12 < leper> DREADFUL: Dragon recursive easy acronym; does find unicorn love

    22:13 < Geek377> lol... Those in favor of DRAGON? (Thats power right there pople... beats Kronos wings down)

    22:13 <@historicbruno> Mythos_Ruler, pick one and edit this file lol http://trac.wildfire...ot-wc/data.json

    22:13 <@Deiz> Keep in mind that the AI name field is kind of tiny

    22:14 <@Deiz> So it can't be "overly long name bot"

    22:15 < Yves`> About recursion: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Recursion

    22:15 < erik_feneur> :D

    22:15 < Yves`> The fantastic thing about recursion is that it contains the word recoursion IN ITSELF!

    22:15 <@Deiz> It should be rBot

    22:15 <@Deiz> (It comes after q)

    22:16 <@historicbruno> FooBot

    22:16 <@k776> Does anyone else think this would help or hinder? http://www.wildfireg...180#entry249852

    22:17 < Mythos_Ruler> done

    22:17 <@Deiz> Bahhhhh.

    22:17 <@historicbruno> k776, I'd rather drop the concept of numeric quality

    22:18 < leper> Mythos Bot

    22:18 < leper> so everybody can beat Mythos

    22:18 <@k776> historicbruno: Ok, in favour of?

    22:18 < Mythos_Ruler> gtg guys

    22:18 < Mythos_Ruler> l8r

    22:19 -!- Mythos_Ruler [webchat@c-67-165-135-108.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed]

    22:19 < Yves`> My opinion is that the name should make it easier for players to find out which bot to choose

    22:19 <@Deiz> He changes it and then leaves!

    22:19 <@Deiz> I vote we change it to something else :P

    22:19 <@historicbruno> I like Aegis

    22:19 <@Deiz> We should develop some sort of design-by-committee compromise

    22:19 <@Deiz> Let's take some letters from everybody's suggestions and make an anagram

    22:19 <@Deiz> And use that.

    22:20 < leper> what about wfgbot?

    22:20 < Yves`> Aegis Bot is fine for me but we should keep the "(experimental)" for the moment

    22:20 < Geek377> no... wfgbot is for IRC

    22:21 <@k776> Hmm Killbot, Pwnbot, Shredbot, VectorBot

    22:21 < Geek377> Achilles... strong but the heel is the pathfinder?

    22:21 < Yves`> I've never managed to play a whole game without error messages

    22:21 < leper> but we could tell players that look for multiplayer opponents that wfgbot will play against them in singleplayer ;p

    22:21 < Geek377> And the bot's defensive counterpart could be Ajax

    22:21 < erik_feneur> Yves`: Not sure how a name can ever do that fully, at least not unless we include something like (hard) or (defensive) or (rusher) etc, which might be equally bad for people who don't know the terms. I'd say use the description to explain more than say (experimental) or (outdated).

    22:21 <@Deiz> We could also make an all-encompassing name

    22:21 <@Deiz> OmniBot :P

    Either way, I'm excited to try out Aegis :)

  2. Such restrictions are against the GPL (and unnecessary).

    By restrict I meant not via license per se but just by asking them to take it down. Also once 0 A.D. is finished, I don't see any harm in having an official CD distribution store (the game gets distributed to people without fast Internet and its good publicity). Also having an official CD prevents people from being scammed into buying the incomplete game.

  3. Okay time to report this idiot... I'm sorry I just don't like his whole scam operation going on. Yes he is technically allowed to sell 0 AD and scam people. But what about the other items? And besides, its just morally wrong. Just the kind of thing to make a dent in the OS movement. Just plain disgusting.

    Oh, and I agree that we should restrict the selling of third party binaries...

    And a note on the main menu saying "If you paid money for this game, you got scammed. Get the updated version for free at www.wildfiregames.com". ;)

    This could be bypassed by editing the files.

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