And my third post in a row ! I just found a cool page with very detailed war ships from the Ptolemaic Egypt ! http://www.navistory...ptolemaique.php Here is a "Pentere Lagide" : now a "Octère Lagide" : Plus a huge "30" oars rows : I haven't read all the text, but it says that the Roman ships were much more dynamic in comparison to these huge Ptolemaic "elephants of the sea" That seems a weak point to be used when we will need to give balance to the civ in the game. I recommend you check the Ancient ships page on the same site : http://www.navistory.com/pages/antiquite.php There are useful matter for more than the Ptolemaic Egypt.