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Mod Announcment - Colonial A.D. : Conquer the World...again

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1) Ooops, I didn't count with it. I'm from Czech Republic.

2) I appreciate your willingness to help. But if you can't do it from stated resons, than I don't know how could you help.

Perhaps history research could fit you well. Simply choose some nation and find some info about its history and especially military in these times.

I'm not sure if Tathar mentioned time period in his mod, but if it will be sequel to my mod I guess, that it will start at the end of 15th century and end in 18th century or so.

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BTW, I've found this and this. Perhaps you could contact Cegorah (but he is very busy now as he mentioned).

Edited by Belisarivs

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If you need any help with :

Poland, Russia, Iroquis, Aztecs, Inca, Mapuche (if these are here) or generally ANYTHING from the XVIth and XVIIth century I have enough knowledge to assist this mod with necessary information.

I am largerly responsible for Pike and Musket mod for TW series and I have most of reseacrch already done.

BTW Poland was indirectly a colonial power for a couple of years - its vasal state Courland had Tobago untill it was taken by the Dutch in 1660s.

Regards Cegorach :)

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I guess, that this mod has timeframe which will fit you best.

I think, that it takes part in same time as your PMTW mod.

So you are free to post anything relating your mod, I think.

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I can also help you with the Haudenosaunee/Iroquois, as well as neighbouring tribes.

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Some stuff for civs:

-Italy(venice):

Bombard

image

Dragoons

image

Lifeguard Halberdier(lifeguard of morosini),bombardier and carabineer(lifeguard of morosini)

image

Light Cavalry(the 2 one)

image

Carabineers

image

Bersaglieri

image

Kight,handgunner and halberdier(early units)

image

Carabineer,general and lancer

image

Fusilers

Hussar,dragoon and trumpeteer

image

Venetian halberdiers

image

Elmeti

image

image

Vatican siwss guards

image

Buildings

image

-Portugal

Caçador

image

Arcabuzeiro

image

Arcabuzeiro de goa

image

Musketeer

image

image

image

Piqueiro pesado

image

Alferes(flag carrier)

image

Halberdiers

image

Settlers

image

Piqueiro leve

image

Infantaria do porto

image

Dragões(dragoons)

image

Lanceiro(Lancer)

image

Caravela

image

image

Buildings

image

-Netherland

Watergeuzen(noble soldier)

image

Halberdier

image

Pikeman

image

harquebuiser(ruyter?)

image

Musketeer

image

Belgian light dragoons

image

Fusilers

image

Red lancers

image

Hussar

image

Grenadier

image

Fluyt

image

Buildings

image

-France

Black musketeers

image

Musketeer

image

image

image

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Tirailleurs

image

image

Chasseurs a cheval

image

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Hussars

image

image

Dragoons

image

image

Cuirassiers

image

image

Lancers

image

Gendarmerie d'Élite

image

image

Carabinier

image

image

Pikeman

image

Old guard grenadier

image

Young Guard

image

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Horse grenadiers

image

Barge ship

image

Buildings

image

-British

King's german light dragoon

image

Gentleman at arms

image

Beefeater

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Pistol cavalry

image

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Life guards

image

Crimean Heavy dragoons

image.w560h420.jpg]image

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Heavy dragoons

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Light dragoons

image

Lancer

image

Hussar

image

Redcoat

image

Highlander

image

Longbowman

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Greenjacket

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Man-o-war

image

buildings

image

-Spain

Rodelero

image

Piquero

image

Alabardero

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Bestero

image

Guerrillero

image

Conquistador

image

Musketeer

image

image

image

image

Tercio

image

Light infantry

image

Lancero

image

Early cavalry

image

Hussar

image

Galeão

image

buildings

image

Edited by Abadu

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The final civs:

-Russia

Strelet

image

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Boyar cavalry

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Mounted jaeger

image

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Spearman

image

Archer

image

Lifeguard

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Licorne howitizer

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Jaeger

image

Akhtyrsk Hussars

image

image

Hussar,dragoon and musketeer

image

Dragoon

image

Cuirassier

image

cossack

image

pavlov grenadier

image

image

-Sweden

Karoliner(karoliner Kavalleri)

image

Fusiler[Fysiljär(karoliner Fysiljär)]

image

pikeman(Pikenerare)

image

Dragoner

image

Hussar(husar)

image

Cuirassier(Kyrassiär)

image

Grenadier(Grenadjär)

image

Buildings

image

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Well,i was planing them,but to diferent units,we would have to use other germanic nations(poland,austria,swiz) units,but all the civs here had a colony in the "new world",while prussians dont had any,but i could research some prussian units...

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So,lets add german instead of prussia(contain austria and swizz) and pherpaps some arab civ...

Some natives:

-Inca

inti maceman,huaminca spearman and cuzco axeman

inca_warriors.gif

Cola pikeman

pc388.jpg

noble "halberdier"

incas_guerreros.jpg

Chasqui scout

chasqui.jpg

Andean slinger

fig-11.jpg

Inca shaman

-Aztec

Cuahchic

DSCF4217.jpg

Jaguar warriors

img0245.jpg

Warrior priest

FO2_gallery.jpg

Noble archer

archer.gif

peasant spearman

IV63sk08.jpg

Spearman

spearman.gif

Coyote warriors

1.png

-Maya

Spearman

Maya-Warrior_203__5115_20.jpg

Jaguar spearman

mayanbattle.gif

Jungle Bowman

jaina-warrior-1.gif

Javelin trower

x2_JavelinThrower.gif

Quetzal warrior

warrior_with_macan.gif

Feathered archer

archer.gif

Latter i post other natives

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Hope you don't mind, I'm going to post some Iroquois units.

Rifleman with Club (original tomahawk)

20iroquisvac2.jpg

Chief

warchiefhd0.png

Aenna

5967lvz1.jpg

Tomahawk Clubman

8943rm8.jpg

Tomahawk Axeman

iroquoiswarriorcn3.jpg

Female villager; False face society Shaman; male villager/late period soldier

iroquois5va2.jpg

Allied spearman

900141gb2.jpg

Cavalry rifleman

8.png

Cavalry Clubman

36.png

(would be better with a tomahawk club like the ones in other picturess)

Mantlet

46.4keener_fig01m.gif

46.4keener_fig02m.gif

Ram

iroram.jpg

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Well,i realy dont like the 3 units with tomahawk in name,its best only the exeman have tomahawk in name.The ideas are very good,but looks like b]to much with AOE III

Other units for the natives:

Inca shaman(inti priest)

shaman.gif

Inca chief

incas.jpg

Iroquois chief(the other is best for the rifleman)

chief.gif

Aztec chief

chief.gif

Aztec priest

shaman.gif

Mayan shaman

shaman.gif

Mayan chief

chief.gif

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Those names aren't definite, just descriptions of the soldier.

I disagree that the chief should be a rifleman. Iroquois chiefs had capes over their right shoulders, like the one in the picture I posted. The sprite you posted just looks like a regular Great Lakes soldier to me, not even necessarily Iroquois.

The Inca also did not have horizontal feather headdresses like the ones pictured in those sprites, they actually had front-to back ones or none at all, if I remember right.

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Well,the problem is that the rifleman looks like too much with the tomahawk.The sprite is from american conquest,i dont think its good enough to be the iroquois chief,it was only a sugestion.

About the inca sprites,we dont need to use this for the chief,but the priest is very good,dont you think?

But now,more pictures:

inca noble poleaxeman

inca_emperor.gif

aztec eagle warrior

link

-Sioux

archer

sa70305.jpg

spearman

rwiw12.gif

buffalo soldier(atack with bow and spear)

54-48.jpg

sioux brave(atack with rifle and axe)

54-50.jpg

pikeman

sioux_subchief.jpg

wolf scout

northern_cheyenne_wolf_scout.jpg

cheyene dog soldier

cheyenne_dog_soldier.jpg

dog_soldier.jpg

Light spear cavalry

WU70279.jpg

Archer raider

Native_Am_Sioux_Archer_horse.jpg

Feather heavy lancers(ok,its a dumb name)

warriors-horseback.jpg

repearting rifleman

26.png

artAM62.jpg

chief

1016_sitting_bull.jpg

Buffalo soldier

artS4-F20.jpg

Spearman(very good in my opinion)

am1001.jpg

Lakota mounted axe

wiciska4.JPG

-Seminole

mounted rifleman

275323.jpg

SeminoleWarrior_275_275.jpg

musketeer

RJCseminole.jpeg

archer

bothall.jpg

rifleman

3rifle.jpg

-Hopi

Spearman

P%2052%20Studio%20Hopi%20Warriors.jpg

Snake priest

snake_dancer.jpg

Archer

archer.gif

shooter

shooter.gif

chief

nat_pueb.gif

-Inuit

Archer

inuithunter.jpg

Harpooner

000a5e3f.jpg

Spearman

warm-clothing.jpg

Dog sled

20744_1.jpg

Umiak

inart617.jpg

Kayak

kayak_large.JPG

-Hawaiians

Koa swordsman

koa.jpg(the one with the "sword")

Koa maceman

IV12cgd04.jpg

Huna-lewa skirmish

IV12cph05.jpg

Papa kaua pikeman

IV12cph03.jpg

06ah-councel-of-chiefs.JPG

Kamehameha's canonner

ahuena-heiau-1817.jpg

Polynesian canoe

hokulea.jpg

buildings(this picture is just wonderfull)

kaanapali_time.jpg

-Haida

Archer

Clubman

Chief

go thought the pages

Canoe

gh11_01b.gif

Woodsman(a dumb created name)

havwa02b.jpg

Shaman clothes

israelregalia.jpg

I think that i finish the N. America natives,i will start the others latter,but if someone have a sugestion for N amercian native,just say(especialy if its from the rockies)

Edited by Abadu

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In the game, I'm sure there will be effective ways to make the units look unique, such as body paint. It's certainly working in AOE3: WarChiefs, I'm sure they can appear distinguished in-game.

Impressive display of natives there, especially the Inuit and Hawaiians. ;)

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;) Really good work !

I am still researching about some armies and nations and some of those images are incredibly useful. :P

Anyway - just curious - how many units per faction is the limit ?

BTW Anyone here knows at least a little Iroquis language or at least terms they used to decribe warriors, scouts etc. I will not bother you with details unless someone can help me.

Anyone has any images/more data about Mapuche ( south part of South America -i.e. Chile, Argentina) armies after 1555 - they adopted european tactics (pikemen, cavalry, musketeers) and actually were subdued only after 1850 if I am correct or even later.

Finally are there any online source about Hawaii warfare I really am curious about them now. :D

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The S.America tribes:

-Tupi-Guarani

Guarani archer

tupi.jpg

Tupi archer

IV29dz2.jpg

Maceman

IV29dz1.jpg

Piroga

camp28.jpg

Piroga-Victor%20Hart.jpg

Pajé(shaman)

Paje.jpg

Cacique(chief)

Cunhambebe.jpg

buildings

pindot10.jpg

staden1x.jpg

vilagers(woman)

indigenas-tupinamba.jpg

-Kayapo

Heavy spearman

25_1577_698_Kayapo_War_Dance.gif

Light spearman

B-Xikrin-TB.jpeg

Archer

25_1577_696_Kayapo_Dance.gif

wald-fotos-kayapo-tanz.jpg

Clubman(the first 2 mans)

Kayapo.jpg

Shaman

uaxkaya.gif

Chief

jp12.jpg

buildings

505a.gif

-Xavante

Blowgunner

5121040_4104.jpg

Spearman

10nome.jpg

Archer

Brazil.Xavante.01.jpg

Hunter(use bow and club)

13urubus.jpg

Shaman

4rito.jpg

buildings

4464e32cc820230848809d84e1926300n14.gif

Xavante.JPG

casasb.jpg

-Mapuche

Shaman

mapuche.jpg

Chief

chlb0032.jpg

malakawello

066ARAUC_CORTANDOCABLE.jpg

lancer

mapuche_parada.gif

Ironwood clubman

932253_20060307_screen003.sized.jpg

I nned more ideas for new tribes,some help would be good also

EDIT:I have some trouble in find mapuche pictures,if you have any,put here.

And for hawaiians,i get many pictures in miniatures sites(try fanaticus eye candy galery) and this site;http://www.hawaiiantrading.com/stock/index.html

Edited by Abadu

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Anyway - just curious - how many units per faction is the limit ?

AFAIK it has none limits this way. Actually, I think, that it won't be like Total War, but rather like Age of Kings. So having too much unit types will be useless as player will tend to use just few of them.

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Well, me to. But it will be perhaps implemented in Part II. Not now. So, take what you get.

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ok i was on vacation and you start trying to force me into things.

@ belsarivs i have been studing history and stuff playing aoe3 but i cant make the texture untill i know what the file is going to look like.

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I would suggest "Mabobo Clubman" over "Ironwood Clubman", since the mabobo(sp?) is the name of the club that the South American tribes wielded. Don't know why Ensemble gave them the other name.

I didn't know much about Tupi armies, but they look really cool. ;)

Other American Indian civ ideas not yet covered:

- Apache

- Crow

- Cherokee

- Klamath

- Cree

- Aymara

- Taino

- Huron

- Algonquin

- Pawnee

In my opinion it should be balanced between the two continents. I think one or two Mesoamerican (technically north American) civs is okay, Maya and Aztec one would assume.

Desired North American civs:

- Iroquois

- Cherokee

- Crow

- Sioux

- Apache

South American civs:

- Inca

- Mapuche

- Taino

- Tupi

- Aymara

I know that is 12 civs all and all. That's the problem, narrowing them down...

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