AceWild Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Hi,In regards to the new setting in alpha 16 to change the % of market to market trading for all of the resources....... This change makes it a pain for anyone wanting to 100% trade a resource. One click for every 5% is slow. Edited June 11, 2014 by AceWild Please use special fonts only to structure your post, not for entire posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 The GUI of this new trade interface could certainly be improved to make it less confusing for new players, but I really do not understand the second part of your sentence: how can it be more painful to change your trade income at only one place instead of having to hunt after all your traders to change their resource ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeXoR Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 I agree that the new trading system might be confusing e.g.:The probability may be confusing at first glance (traders actually only trade one resource. But it might even teach PPL how probability works ^^)But I strongly agree that having all traders settings in one place is MUCH better to handle in the end. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceWild Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) The GUI of this new trade interface could certainly be improved to make it less confusing for new players, but I really do not understand the second part of your sentence: how can it be more painful to change your trade income at only one place instead of having to hunt after all your traders to change their resource ?You don't have to hunt for all traders on map ... just hold down Alt and double click on one trader to select all traders on map. Edited June 11, 2014 by AceWild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Because you are an adept of trading with only one resource does not mean everybody wants it. If you want to have for example 2 resources with 30% and 70%, you would still have to do some manipulations (and computations if several trade routes with different incomes) to achieve what you need. Concerning the number of clicks with 5% increase, as I said, the GUI certainly deserves some improvments (a slider would be better). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Because you are an adept of trading with only one resource does not mean everybody wants it. If you want to have for example 2 resources with 30% and 70%, you would still have to do some manipulations (and computations if several trade routes with different incomes) to achieve what you need. Concerning the number of clicks with 5% increase, as I said, the GUI certainly deserves some improvments (a slider would be better). very good explanation can be good include in game manual. +10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeta1127 Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 The trade interface is an improvement over the old way of doing it, and this is the first version anyway, with the addition of sliders as mentioned by mimo, it should end up being effective for all trading situations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceWild Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) Because you are an adept of trading with only one resource does not mean everybody wants it. If you want to have for example 2 resources with 30% and 70%, you would still have to do some manipulations (and computations if several trade routes with different incomes) to achieve what you need. Concerning the number of clicks with 5% increase, as I said, the GUI certainly deserves some improvments (a slider would be better).I'm not adept to trading of one resource but many players are. A slider sounds good. Edited June 11, 2014 by AceWild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 ... by the way I'm surprised you didn't even know that Alt and double click on a trader selects them all! we are may-be diverging a bit from the original subject ? but yes I've never used dble-click to select all traders because I usually never trade only one resource and that is the rare case where it is usefull. In fact, before the A16 changes, I nearly never changed the resources assigned to my traders because it was really not convenient. But I agree that for people trading only one resource at a time, and changing it frequently, the new system implies more clicks ! may-be we can try and improve the present trade window (waiting for a full gui review) using keys : for example, when we ctrl-click on one resource, it will be put to 100%. We could also change the step to be 10% instead of the 5% which is may-be not really needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceWild Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) .......... Edited June 11, 2014 by AceWild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanderd17 Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Hi mimo, you obviously didn't know that Alt and double click selects all traders..... this works for all types of units also ... It still doesn't work if you want a split share. Like 25% of each. It was very hard to hunt your traders to achieve this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Hi mimo, you obviously didn't know that Alt and double click selects all traders..... this works for all types of units also ... And you are obviously very bad at riddles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceWild Posted May 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) Market to Market trading would be better if there was an easy option to choose either to split share or 100%. Edited June 11, 2014 by AceWild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanderd17 Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Your wishes have been heard: http://trac.wildfiregames.com/changeset/15211 Especially for the players who want to trade 100% of one resource. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceWild Posted May 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Your wishes have been heard: http://trac.wildfiregames.com/changeset/15211Especially for the players who want to trade 100% of one resource.Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanderd17 Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Thank you Thank mimo for it. I wouldn't have implemented it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceWild Posted May 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Thanks mimo and kind regards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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