NoMolester Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) Hello, well i have got an idea about factions that may even be compatible with other mods like the broncze age mod.You see in the middle ages, in the period between 500- 1500 there were many great civilizations that sometimes didnt interact with each other because some might have been in the early period while others existed in the late period, so how can we add so many civilizations and at the same time make them historically verosimil.For example the umayad dinasty was strong and powerfull and yet they never coexisted at the same time with the holy roman empire but they did with the frankish kingdom. And the umayad dinasty are very similar with the Fatimid dinasty in terms of culture.So, instead of having several civilizations that are almost copy-paste of each other or having civs fighting with civs that dont belong to the same timeframe (like seleucids fighting huns), i developed this idea:Having cultures (like arabs) and every time you change to a new period (From 500-700 to 700-1000, for example) you can choose a "civ" to beome that developed in that period from an array of two or three civs like the gods of age of mithology (like Umayad or Abbasid dinasties), each of one gives you units, technologies, cruzader-jihad orders and even bildings.Heres is an example of what it could be, i had to use my periods because they are, in my humble opinion, more historically acccurate than the official ones in the FAQ of the mod.Periods:1st period: 476 AD (Fall of Western Roman Empire) - 732 AD (Batttle of Poitiers)2nd period: 732 AD - 1071 AD (Battle of Manzinkert)3rd period: 1071 AD - 1272 AD (End of the last cruzade)4th period: 1272 AD - 1492 AD (Discovery of America)Cultures:==Sarrasens==1st period: Rashidun Caliphate2nd period: Umayad Caliphate, Abbasid Caliphate3rd period: Fatimid Caliphate, Ayubid Caliphate4tf period: Mamluk Sultanate, Grand Sharifate of Mecca==Berbers==1st period: Berber Desert Tribes2nd period: Emirate of Córdoba, Aghlabid Emirate3rd period: Almoravid Hermit Order, Almohade Sultanate4th period: Marinid Sultanate, Wattasid Sultanate==Germanics==1st period: Germanic Nomad Tribes2nd period: Kingdom of East Francia, Kingdom of Middle Francia3rd period: County Palatine of the Rhine, Duchy of Saxony, Margraviate of Brandemburg, Kingdom of Bohemia4th period: Monastic State of the Teutonic Order, Holy Roman Empire, Federation of Switzerland==Anglosaxons==1st period: Anglo-Saxon Naval Tribes2nd period: Kingdom of Mercia, Kingdom of Northumbria3rd period: Norman Kingdom of England4th period: Kingdom of England==Italians==1st period: Lombard Kingdom2nd period: Theme of Sicily, Theme of Venice3rd period: Duchy of Capulia and Calabria, Most Serene Republic of Venice, Lombard League, Republic of Pisa4th period: Kingdom of Sicily, Most Serene Republic of Venice, Most Serene Republic of Genoa, Most Serene Republic of Florence==Iberian==1sr period: Visigoth Kingdom of Toledo2nd period: Kingdom of Asturias, Kingdom of Pamplona3rd period: Kingdom of León, Kingdom of Castile, Kingdom of Aragón4rth period: Kingdom of Portugal, United Kingdom of Castile and León, Kingdom of Aragón==Bizantine==1st period: Eastern Roman Empire2nd period: Isauric Dinasty, Frigian Dinasty, Macedonian Dinasty3rd period: Komnenos Dinasty, Latin Empire, Empire of Nicaea4th period: Palaiologos Dinasty, Lantakouzenos Dinasty==East Slavic==1st period: Slavic Nomad Tribes2nd period: Rus Khaganate3rd period: Kingdom of Poland, Kievan Rus, Grand Principality of Vladimir-Suzdal4th period: Novgorod Republic, Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Grand Duchy of Moscow, Kingdom of Poland==South Slavic & Magyars==1st period: Avar Khaganate2nd period: Great Moravian Empire, Bulgarian Kingdom3rd period: Bulgarian Tzardom, Grand Principality of Serbia, Kingdom of Hungary4th period: Serbian Tzardom, Kingdom of Hungary==Persian==1st period: Sassanid Shahnate2nd period: Saffarid Emirate, Samanid Emirate, Tahirid Emirate3rd period: Ghurid Sultanate, Kakuyid Atabeg4th period: Timurid Khanate,Il Khanate==Frankish==1st period: Kingdom of the Franks2nd period: Kingdom of West Francia, Kingdom of High Burgundy, Kingdom of Lower Burgundy3rd period: Capetian Dinasty of Francia, Kingdom of Arles4th period: Valois Dinasty of Francia, Kingdom of Burgundy==Nordics==1st period: Viking Naval Tribes2nd period: Kingdom of Denmark, Kingdom of Norway3rd period: Kingdom of Sweden, Icelandic Commonwealth, Kingdom of Norway, Kingdom of Denmark4th period: Kalmar Union== North Turkics ==1st period: Onoq Khaganate2nd period: Khazar Khaganate, Pecheneg Khaganate3rd period: Cuman-Kipchak Confederation4th period: Khanate of the Golden Horde== South Turkics ==1st period: Göktürk Khaganate2nd period: Ghaznavid Sultanate3rd period: Khwarazmian Sultanate, Great Seljuk Sultanate, Rum Sultanate, 4th period: Otoman Sultanate, Mamluk SultanateThis idea can be done for other mods too that are set in a huge timeline with various civilizations that rised and collapsed during that period. 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Lion.Kanzen Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Is not bad idea, there are many Empire Earth Fans, that can play a long of human history, even they want to do a kickstsrted for do Empire Earth 4. The entine is do it for play ign this mind of RTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMolester Posted September 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Oh and i forgot nordic peoples, i'll do it later.Where did you hear about the EE4 kickstarter project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) Or kickstsrted or something similar, sorry I don't remember exactly but was a whole Campaing but, they can bring again the old Empire Earth , was years ago.Edit: No not was kick started sorry, was a petition, now I see why they fail.https://www.facebook.com/pages/Empire-Earth-4-Petition/179250325440668 Edited September 7, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMolester Posted September 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 I just added the vikings for a total of 13 proposed cultures.==Nordics==1st period: Viking tribes2nd period: Kingdom of Denmark, Kingdom of Norway3rd period: Kingdom of Sweden, Icelandic Commonwealth, Kingdom of Norway, Kingdom of Denmark4th period: Kalmar Union Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'm interesting in Nordic people Even for my mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenknight32 Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 I found a page with some really good info about early Norse history:http://robertlyn-schultz.newsvine.com/_news/2010/10/19/5315813-viking-historical-timeline-of-the-norse-people-part-18000-bc-to-ad-900 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMolester Posted October 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 I have deleted the Khazar Khaganate from the East slavs and added it to the N. Turkics, deleted the Principality of Smolensk, added the Grand Duchy of Moscow and the Grand Principality of Vladimir-Suzdal. I also changed the Ghaznavids from the persians to the S. Turkics and added the Kakuyid Atabeg to replace the Ghaznavids for the persians.== North Turkics ==1st period: Onoq Khaganate2nd period: Khazar Khaganate, Pecheneg Khaganate3rd period: Cuman-Kipchak Confederation4th period: Khanate of the Golden Horde== South Turkics ==1st period: Göktürk Khaganate2nd period: Ghaznavid Sultanate3rd period: Khwarazmian Sultanate, Great Seljuk Sultanate, Rum Sultanate, 4th period: Otoman Sultanate, Mamluk Sultanate1st period: 476 AD (Fall of Western Roman Empire) - 732 AD (Batttle of Poitiers)2nd period: 732 AD - 1071 AD (Battle of Manzinkert)3rd period: 1071 AD - 1272 AD (End of the last cruzade)4th period: 1272 AD - 1492 AD (Discovery of America)for a total of 15 proposed cultures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMolester Posted October 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 and 112 proposed civilizations in four different periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 is a lot of work, only documentation is big task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMolester Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Yes, a lot of documentation but not a lot of work, there wouldn't be 112 civs, there would be really 15 civs and the 112 "sub-factions" would be like technologies in which you can only investigate one per period. For example, as byzantines, if you choose the Frigian dinasty in the second period, you would gain access to the varangian guard and other bonuses. Like in AoM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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