Mythos_Ruler Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 For the temple, I am thinking something like the barrel-vault structure on the right side of this image: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted November 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Perhaps something like the building on the left: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Do we have more reference images for the building in the first rendition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Got a better view, fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gudo Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) This very large image of what remains at the site has some period pillars in the middle. They're square, not round. Assuming Mytho's picture is an acurite map, I beleive that those pillars belong to the structure you modled, due to the shape of the foundation and the proximity to the Great Stupa.Most images I've seen of the site have square pillars. Here's another of the same pillars. Here is the remains of one of the smaller structures in Mythos' picture. Note the shadow of pillars across the foreground. There is some ornamental carving, but the top and bottoms of the pillars are still square.[EDIT]The images I've been linking to are images of ASI Monument Number N-MP-220, Temple 18. Here is yet another shot of those pillars. They don't have the double pillars on the front of the structure, but neither does the structure in Mytho's image.Hmm.... According to this link says that Temple 18 was built on the foundations of an earlier Mauryan temple. But this one says that Temple 18 dates to the second century BCE. So it's the right place, it just might not be the right pillars. >_> I still believe the pillars should be square though.[/EDIT][Moar EDIT]We need Temple 40. It dates to the Maurayan period. The second apsidal temple at Sanchi, No. 40 of Sir John Marshall’s plan, was entirely buried under ground when he started the exploration of Sanchi and was in fact discovered by him. It was built on a rectangular stone plinth 11 high, 87 long and 45 broad. Inside this plinth were found the foundations of the Chaitya- hall. Sir John Marshall also discovered remains of charred wood which formed the superstructure. He estimates that the conflagration took place some time before the beginning of the Christian era and therefore the original structure may date back to the Maurya period.SourceMore on Temple 40 including foundation dimensions. Images of what's left of Temple 40. Edited November 5, 2012 by gudo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) This very large image of what remains at the site has some period pillars in the middle. They're square, not round. Assuming Mytho's picture is an acurite map, I beleive that those pillars belong to the structure you modled, due to the shape of the foundation and the proximity to the Great Stupa.Most images I've seen of the site have square pillars. Here's another of the same pillars. Here is the remains of one of the smaller structures in Mythos' picture. Note the shadow of pillars across the foreground. There is some ornamental carving, but the top and bottoms of the pillars are still square.[EDIT]The images I've been linking to are images of ASI Monument Number N-MP-220, Temple 18. Here is yet another shot of those pillars. They don't have the double pillars on the front of the structure, but neither does the structure in Mytho's image.Hmm.... According to this link says that Temple 18 was built on the foundations of an earlier Mauryan temple. But this one says that Temple 18 dates to the second century BCE. So it's the right place, it just might not be the right pillars. >_> I still believe the pillars should be square though.[/EDIT]Thanks a lot for the sources, square pillars also help the poly countHow's this? Edited November 5, 2012 by LordGood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo38 Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 @Gudo : Congratulations for your search ! That is very helpful and well sourced. I appreciate a lot the details of your comment.@LordGood : The last version is very good. I would open the windows, and I would try to make columns with varying levels shape like on this ref photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shield Bearer Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 I think we can have some artistic liberty with this building, what do you think Michael? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 @Gudo : Congratulations for your search ! That is very helpful and well sourced. I appreciate a lot the details of your comment.@LordGood : The last version is very good. I would open the windows, and I would try to make columns with varying levels shape like on this ref photo.So more like this?It really hikes up the polygon count, but it was pretty light beforehand anyway, this should be alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo38 Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 So more like this?It really hikes up the polygon count, but it was pretty light beforehand anyway, this should be alrightYes, the columns are looking great. But to save polygons, you could simplify the round part at their top. Also, you can simplify the hald-circle at the bottom of the stairs.And I feel like ths front wall is much too stuck to the columns. So, unless this is historically accurate, I'd see more the wall really behind the columns, not half inside them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 You can use "maur_struct.png" and "maur_struct_b.png" from here to texture it EDIT:Here's how I thought the main colors would be: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) @lordgood I think that bringing the roof to a point would help. Try looking at the roofs of some of the other Mauryan structures for reference. Edited November 5, 2012 by Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Took out a few polygons and pointed the roof a little bit, set the wall back. The columns are engaged in the references though, LudoI could stretch the truth a bit, if you prefer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilstewie Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) Why the quasi columns?@gudo great post. Edited November 5, 2012 by lilstewie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo38 Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Took out a few polygons and pointed the roof a little bit, set the wall back. The columns are engaged in the references though, LudoI could stretch the truth a bit, if you preferExcellent. You're very efficient dude !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Ohh the texturing really slows me down, anything for the pediment area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Why the quasi columns?@gudo great post.We took a few... artistic liberties... to spice up the model a bitYou can use "maur_struct.png" and "maur_struct_b.png" from here to texture it EDIT:Here's how I thought the main colors would be: This texture pack is amazing! Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilstewie Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) I feel like you guys should use a lot more wood.We took a few... artistic liberties... to spice up the model a bitSuch quasi columns don't really exist in India. It's more of a European thing.Even when they are cutting through rock, they have the columns more like your first model. Edited November 5, 2012 by lilstewie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 I feel like you guys should use a lot more wood.The temple complexes were carved stone for the most part weren't they? I figure the wooden structures would be more about the houses, mills and such Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gudo Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Yeah... Decorate the arch like the barrel arches on your Gate. Also, according to the sources I linked, the superstructure of Temple 18 and 40 were both wood. The foundation should be small stones like you have it, and the pillars should be single large stones like you have it, but much of the non-structural bits should be wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilstewie Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) The temple complexes were carved stone for the most part weren't they? I figure the wooden structures would be more about the houses, mills and suchNo, carving out a large block of stone is later development.But look at the columns for those examples as well. They don't have quasi columns. Edited November 6, 2012 by lilstewie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 No, carving out a large block of stone is later development.But look at the columns for those examples as well. They don't have quasi columns.I modeled the columns after these at temple 17are these of the wrong time period? Im not much of a Mauryan history buff if you havent guessed xP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilstewie Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) Lordgood. I'm not talking about the different shape of the columns.I'm talking about how it looks it's like a relief to the building.It's a Roman style I believe. That became more popular in the renaissance.This is more better. The column is complete looking. Edited November 6, 2012 by lilstewie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilstewie Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) It should be more like thisInstead of thisThat's all I'm trying to say, because that style is very rare in India. Edited November 6, 2012 by lilstewie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 Have a more wooden structure and set the columns a little further from the walls- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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