Civ: Gupta Indians

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

The Golden Age of India

The Gupta Dynasty

 

 

 

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Committed the first draft of the Guptas

 

 

I need ideas for:

 

4 heroes and their bonuses

Unit references (for textures)

Mercenary Unit ideas (at least 3)

Unique technologies

Civ Bonuses

Team Bonus

Catafalque

[Thalatta]

Do you still need answers? Has there been a discussion about preferred units somewhere? Just a few things in the meantime. Regarding the great Gupta emperors, all were warriors and patrons of learning, giving them auras with combat and maybe tech speed bonuses. For their differences:

-Chandra-gupta I: founder of the empire, unified territory through marriage, followed by conquest. Maybe capture bonus (since diplomacy mechanics are not that complex).

-Samudra-gupta: the conqueror, put in place a great army, which probably included a navy. More combat, and military production speed bonuses.

-Chandra-gupta II: patron of learning, similar to the previous one, but maybe the greatest. Brought to maturity the empire. Production or more tech speed bonuses.

-Skanda-gupta: protector of the empire, successful against invasions, considered the last of the greats. Maybe structure's arrow count bonus.

As an alternative, Aryabhata I: famous thinker (math, astronomy, physics), if having these non-combat heroes is a thing. Could greatly accelerate tech research speed when garrisoning a building.

It’s hard for me not to give importance to the learning advances in this period, which I can only translate to tech research speed in the game (maybe could be balanced by having lots of techs to research). The Nalanda mahavihara could be a related unique structure, possibly a Wonder. Another unique structure could be the Delhi Iron Pillar, and the Aśvamedha ritual a unique tech (both could increase Hero/emperor’s stats).

Edited yesterday at 11:53 by Thalatta

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

I definitely still need ideas for all categories!  

 

1. 4 heroes and their bonuses
2. Unit references (for textures, props, and training roster)
3. Mercenary Unit ideas (at least 3)
4. Unique technologies
5. Civ Bonuses
6. Team Bonus
7. Catafalque

 

 

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

16 hours ago, Thalatta said:

As an alternative, Aryabhata I: famous thinker (math, astronomy, physics), if having these non-combat heroes is a thing. Could greatly accelerate tech research speed when garrisoning a building.

Indeed! For DE, non-combat heroes are a thing. Each civ can have 4-5 heroes, so having 4 combat heroes or emperors, plus 1 non-combat or non-emperor/leader hero adds some nice variation and choice.  It's good if not all heroes are "kings" or generals. Chanakya for the Mauryas is a great example. 

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

16 hours ago, Thalatta said:

It’s hard for me not to give importance to the learning advances in this period, which I can only translate to tech research speed in the game (maybe could be balanced by having lots of techs to research). The Nalanda mahavihara could be a related unique structure, possibly a Wonder.

We could base the Wonder off of the 5th stupa from Nalanda:

I've already given the Guptas (and Sasanians) a University structure, which is classed like the Library of the Successors. Same function, reducing tech research time with the 'Scholarship' global aura, but could be built in an earlier phase. I can put any special techs in the University. What think? 

 

16 hours ago, Thalatta said:

Aśvamedha ritual

This is a great special tech. I'll include that for sure. The tech icon can be a white horse with an aura about it.

 

16 hours ago, Thalatta said:

Delhi Iron Pillar

A good idea for a Special Building. Perhaps build one and it adds +20% capture resistance to all other structures. Something like that. 

[Thalatta]

8 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

1. 4 heroes and their bonuses
2. Unit references (for textures, props, and training roster)
3. Mercenary Unit ideas (at least 3)
4. Unique technologies
5. Civ Bonuses
6. Team Bonus
7. Catafalque

I wouldn't know what to put exactly where, I can only give historical facts and others can distribute them and their values over those 7 points

Regarding the Iron Pillar, “Delhi” should be removed because it was moved there centuries later. Regarding the Aśvamedha ritual, bear in mind that it's ancient, but I didn't find a documented record before the end of the Maurya, it appears more often with Gupta emperors (haven't searched a lot though). As I’ve mentioned somewhere, better if things that existed from before are civ. bonuses, while things developed at the time of the civ. are researchable techs.

For techs, maybe some written works, many are just compilations of what existed from before (like the Mahabharata and Ramayana). For some I get wildly different dates, for example, for Hastyayurveda, a veterinary treatise on elephants (that could give them more HP), I’ve found from the 5th century BC to the 11th century AD, which is saying almost nothing. Same for the Sushruta Samhita, an important medicine treatise with focus in surgery, dating from 2000 BC to the sixth century AD (maybe could be a civ. bonus for regeneration). Most advances are perfected from preexisting things, but some techs relevant for the period could be:

-Aryabhatiya: mathematical and astronomical treatise by Aryabhata, for tech speed bonus, maybe construction speed bonus if one considers its geometry useful for that.

-Khanda: crystallised sugar, starting an important industry, could be a Market bonus.

-Chaturanga: first reference of the predecessor of Chess, not sure what to do about it.

Something important was wootz (first high quality steel, used for Damascus steel), but comes from South India and from before, although the Gupta mastered its production. On the other hand, something not that important is that the large, sweet varieties of watermelons were developed at this time.

Regarding the military, to deal with invading steppe nomads, both archer heavy cavalry and sword heavy cavalry were introduced to become the main component of the army, supported by the more traditional elephants and light infantry. Their bows were recurved, but it’s not known if they were composite.