Overhaul of the Citizen system

[Deicide4u]

7 hours ago, Classic-Burger said:

What roles did men play in ancient times apart from soldier and peasant?

Mason, lumberjack, merchant, a blacksmith (profession, not a building).

Fishermen in the coastal areas. Probably a lot of other things. Women did mostly knitting, some farming and some other stuff that would be inappropriate to talk about.

Edited June 4, 2025 by Deicide4u

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

https://gitea.wildfiregames.com/0ad/0ad/pulls/8062

 

Please suggest GenericNames and SpecificNames.

[Deicide4u]

Rome: Cīvis Rōmānus (Roman Citizen). 

Greek city states (Athens, Sparta, Macedonia): Polítēs (Citizen). 

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

12 minutes ago, Deicide4u said:

Rome: Cīvis Rōmānus (Roman Citizen). 

Greek city states (Athens, Sparta, Macedonia): Polítēs (Citizen). 

Athens: Politēs Athēnaîos (Athenian Citizen)

Britons: 

Carthaginians: 

Gauls: 

Han: 

Iberians: 

Kushites: 

Macedonians: Politēs Makedonikḗ (Macedonian Citizen)

Mauryas: 

Persians: 

Ptolemies: 

Romans: Cīvis Rōmānus (Roman Citizen)

Seleucids: 

Sparta: Politēs Spartiátēs (Spartan Citizen)

 

Also keep in mind the names don't always have to translate to "{Civ} Citizen," it could also be something like Han Peasant, or Gallic Artisan, or anything like that to add cultural flavor. 

[Deicide4u]

The spartan bonus for women can be easily rephrased to refer to just "citizens" and justified by the strict Spartan discipline.

EDIT: It's Fertility Festival, not Female Festival. I guess we don't have to change the tech name, but only the tooltip. The same for Loom. 

Edited June 10, 2025 by Deicide4u
Fertility Festival, not Female Festival

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

2 hours ago, Deicide4u said:

The spartan bonus for women can be easily rephrased to refer to just "citizens" and justified by the strict Spartan discipline.

EDIT: It's Fertility Festival, not Female Festival. I guess we don't have to change the tech name, but only the tooltip. The same for Loom. 

Loom and Fertility Festival are already taken care of in the PR.

As for the old "Spartan Women" bonus, how about calling it "Ritualistic Exercise," eluding to something unique to their culture to justify the bonus?  

[Deicide4u]

Ritualistic Exercise sounds great

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

On 10/06/2025 at 6:03 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Athens: Politēs Athēnaîos (Athenian Citizen)

Britons: 

Carthaginians: 

Gauls: 

Han: 

Iberians: 

Kushites: 

Macedonians: Politēs Makedonikḗ (Macedonian Citizen)

Mauryas: 

Persians: 

Ptolemies: Politēs Aigýptios (Egyptian Citizen)

Romans: Cīvis Rōmānus (Roman Citizen)

Seleucids: Politēs Seleukidó̱n (Seleucid Citizen)

Sparta: Politēs Spartiátēs (Spartan Citizen)

 

Also keep in mind the names don't always have to translate to "{Civ} Citizen," it could also be something like Han Peasant, or Gallic Artisan, or anything like that to add cultural flavor. 

Calling all historians and others who have helped with unit naming in the past! Lend us your efforts! Once more unto the breech, dear friends!  

[Deicide4u]

On 28/03/2025 at 6:18 PM, Deicide4u said:

2) Women are replaced by a "Citizen" unit that is randomly assigned a gender when created.
These citizens are your economic units. They can gather resources, build all buildings, repair, etc. They don't have different gather rates, the difference is cosmetic. They cost only 50 food, so you don't waste wood on building any gatherers in the early game. Obviously, this requires a new model for male citizens.

Implemented in PR #8062. 

https://gitea.wildfiregames.com/0ad/0ad/pulls/8062

[Classic-Burger]

3 minutes ago, Deicide4u said:

Implemented in PR #8062. 

https://gitea.wildfiregames.com/0ad/0ad/pulls/8062

Already committed?

[Classic-Burger]

On 13/06/2025 at 1:05 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Calling all historians and others who have helped with unit naming in the past! Lend us your efforts! Once more unto the breech, dear friends!  

There should be a single definition for when it is not part of a civ, i.e. neutral.

[Deicide4u]

@Classic-Burger every civilian worker needs to belong to some civilization. Even if the owner is Gaia.

The PR is fine.