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  5. Introducing the Official community mod for Alpha 26

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    We have some merge requests:

    Nerf heroes Iphicrates and Ptolemy
    Move tier 2 blacksmith technologies to Town Phase
    Rebalance healers by making them cheaper

    I would like some more opinion before potentially merging these, though they all seem like good examples of things we could do in the mod.

    Edit: Also, just as a reminder, anything that is merged can also be removed, the idea is to try some things out as well.

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  6. Introducing the Official community mod for Alpha 26

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    12 hours ago, LetswaveaBook said:

    @wraitii The current community mod is fairly empty? Where can players propose and upload additions to the mod? What standards are used to determine if a mod is suitable?

    As Stan said, the idea is that you use gitlab directly. Just make a Merge Request, you can do this online via the web editor or using git or using the gitlab app (I think).

    As for 'What standards are used to determine if a mod is suitable?', the idea is that the community will self-manage, but so far only the 0 A.D. teams are maintainers so we would merge things. Ideally people will react to changes here or on gitlab directly. At the moment, I'll probably merge simple changes that are widely agreed upon, as for A27 essentially.

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  7. Introducing the Official community mod for Alpha 26

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    52 minutes ago, Kampot said:

    It was crafted to avoid "releasing new alphas" while just minor fixes required.

    Err, not really. It was created to make the job of balancing the game easier and allow the community a more obvious place to contribute gameplay effort.
    It happens to be an obvious place to fix some issues that we've missed as well, but we don't intend to use it as an auto-updater, because it cannot be one.

    The main problem is that we currently have no automatic download of the latest version of the mod.

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    Anyways, for now it remains not super useful -> I am looking forward to gameplay balance and contributions there, though possibly Alpha 26 is perfectly balanced

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  11. Alpha 26 Feedback

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    @chrstgtr I'm wondering if you notice a difference with ram and ram pathfinding. My hunch is that it should be better in A26 with the improved unit pushing. And overall much, much better than A24 which had no pushing at all.

    I'm also curious about unit pushing improvements in a more general sense, how does it feel?

  14. Introducing the Official community mod for Alpha 26

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    11 hours ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

    I see, so we could start to address the han swordcav rush in this mod?

    Yes that's the idea.

    11 hours ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

    Would something like my proposed unit specific upgrades (https://code.wildfiregames.com/D4788) be to large a change for the community mod?

    I do think so, but I kind of intend to let the community actually handle thing here.

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  15. Introducing the Official community mod for Alpha 26

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    My perspective is to start with small things that people agree are OP or broken (such as the Han thing I fixed).

    As a maintainer I'll only merge stuff there that feels consensual enough, whether that comes from a PR on the mod or from a diff that ended in A27 from A26 playtesting.

     

    The idea of the mod is to allow:

    • Having an A26 that's playable in MP
    • Allowing some experiments potentially in a slightly easier way
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  16. Introducing the Official community mod for Alpha 26

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    Hello everyone,

    The mod is now live! You can contribute over on GitLab at https://gitlab.com/0ad/0ad-community-mod-a26/

    The mod can also directly be downloaded from 0 A.D. using Mod.io. The current version, 0.26.1, incorporates the Han rice/grain fixes as a demonstration.

    Feel free to reach out to @Stan` or myself if you would like to become a maintainers. Otherwise, open the web IDE and get ready to make PRs!

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  17. The time between click and reaction is noticeably huge in multiplayer games, even if u just play vs one AI.

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    I think the best comparison for us is Age of Empires 2, I believe DE also uses a turn-rate with command-delay system. However, I believe they use adaptable and lower turn-rate / command-delay, so you usually don't notice it in normal games. If you end up in a situation where you have lag however, there is a noticeable delay between a click and the corresponding action happening.

  18. The time between click and reaction is noticeably huge in multiplayer games, even if u just play vs one AI.

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    Correct, the 'turn length' was 200ms in SP / 500 ms in MP, with command delay set to 'next turn' in SP (which can range 400-200 ms). I've changed it to 200ms everywhere, but the command delay is 3 in MP, which results in 1000-800ms actual delay I believe.

    One thing to note is that the graphics are always 'one turn behind' the game simulation, as we need to know what happens between turns N and N+1 to render turn N. So even though SP actions take place on 'next turn', that's at best 201ms away.

    Lowering the command delay would be possible if we had better lag mitigation, and could adjust on-the-fly, but works remains to be done here.

    Adjusting the 'turn length' requires optimising the game.

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  19. Suggestions for 0 A.D.

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    14 hours ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

    Would it be possible to set observer lag -1 as default? I think this would be a good change.

    13 hours ago, Sevda said:

    In order automatically prevent laggers from interfering with the game.

    Many new hosts Don't know about it and they are very laggy when 8 specs enter

    11 hours ago, chrstgtr said:

    You never want observer lag. The option should be turned off and set to a default of -1. 

    For the record, I setup a default of 10 because of @nani's comment here: https://code.wildfiregames.com/D3737#162803

    I don't have any strong opposition to changing the max lag to -1.

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  22. Is 5 turns per second too many?

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    I think if anything turns should be made shorter.

    Average/total load is not the right metric: it's much better to spend 2 extra milliseconds on each frame (16 -> 18 remains smooth) than stopping for 20ms every 200 ms.

    There are however other considerations:

    • With shorter turns, we could potentially run some computations only on certain turns (this is tricky, but becomes possible. E.G. maybe we run short-range paths every two turns or something)
    • With shorter turns, pathfinding behaves much better
    • With shorter turns, there are generally fewer events per turn (the main source of 'stuff happening' are timers & range queries), so any individual turn tends to be faster. Note that I haven't actually done the math on this.

    I think ideally we'd run turns every 50ms or so, with network delay in the 150ms range. This seems like what AoE 2 is able to achieve and it's very, very smooth.

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  23. Modding and Game Design

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    22 hours ago, Stan` said:

    I think so yes. @wraitii

    The problem is you have to rebuild the whole virtual file system respecting the order of the mods, and whatever the JS code might be doing.

    It's complex, not necessarily outstandingly so. But mostly I don't think it 'breaks' the flow of anything, it's really just a long reloading time and with some cleverness it could be hidden. I don't think it's particularly a problem here.

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  25. Introducing the Official community mod for Alpha 26

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    11 hours ago, ChronA said:

    Is this to be focused on minor adjustments to specific balance issues, or will it be open to more radical reimagining of established unit roles and gameplay conventions?

    Indeed something to be discussed. That being said, my intention here is more the former than the latter.

    I hadn't really considered it, but I think I could maybe set up a branch system to have variants of the mod, so you can use the provided infrastructure for other things. Alternatively, you could just setup forks that implement entire redesigns.

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