Sukkit
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The last time the Wood Elves went out to fight in an open battlefield, their king was slayed along with a large percentage of their people. They're wise enough to remain hidden
And that was even before the Sun rose for the first time.
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If we're talking of games, you have to take game balance into account. Tolkien's Elves would be virtually invincible unless you tweak their numbers (like we'll do).
As for the Nandor and the secretive elves in general: the Sindar of Doriath, and the Noldor of Nargothrond (well, there were lots of Sindar there too) were secretive but fought bravely with their swords. A bow is just so much useful as a secretive weapon in the woods, that's the difference. It would be stupid, not courageous, of the Elves if they didn't take advantage of their skills to fire bows!
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Good point, Caedus.
I personally don't think that Sauron needed the Palantír to project his will, by the way. Morgoth didn't need one, did he?
And yes, I think Sauron had a physical form by the end of the TA. There's some quote (I cannot find it) where Gandalf says (to one of the hobbits, I think) that Sauron might go to the battlefield when everything was over.
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I don't remember any specific mention of this, but it's reasonable to assume it existed.
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Caedus, that was not my intention.
What I'm saying is that, to base your opinions on a book, you can't really use a movie based on that book, and much less a completely unrelated videogame, no matter how good they are.
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If I'm not mistaken, the copyrights are different for every language.
I don't know about the legality of it, though.
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Rem!!
Nice to see you! How have you been?
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He wasn't a dictator, he just was very good friends with many.
But hey, all goes in the fight against the "evil commies", who were, as we know, a monolithic universal group from Cuba to China and Vietnam, and of course the USSR.
So yeah, he wasn't a dictator but I don't respect him at all.
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It's normal for everybody to think he based them on the Anglo-saxons, but what I find hilarious is that he used the DVD comments (!) and Medieval: Total War (!!) as sources to back his opinion.
I thought I had seen it all in internet debating.
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Some guy asked for advice to write fantasy, so obviously Tolkien was mentioned. At some point, someone said that Tolkien based the Rohirrim on the Anglo-saxons, so I naturally jumped off my seat and replied:
There's nothing especifically Anglo-saxon* in the Rohirrim, they have quite generic Germanic traits.*Except for the language, but again Anglo-saxon is just a substitute for "true" Rohirric, and it was a necessity as Rohirric was related to Westron > English. If Tolkien had written in French, the Rohirrim would probably have spoken Latin or something like that.
then I got this:
I have to disagree with you, I have 2 sources that say otherwise. One is the makers of the LOTR movies, i have the 2 towers special edition DVD and on the documentarys they say that tolkien based the Rohirrium culture on anglo-saxon britain. And the language is dark age english one of the co-writers of the movies said that if you went and found a book on the anglo-saxon English that you would find that Eomer means horse-lover and Eowen means Horse maid, Horse girl something like that, it's the same language. The other source is MTW:viking invasion which features Anglo-saxon britain at the time of the viking raids and the look of the buldings and the armour is very nearly the same as the Rohanese. The difference is that tolkien used the anglo-saxons as a base for a steppe peopleI breathed deeply for some 10 seconds, and proceeded to reply, managing not to include a single insult
...1. The makers of the LOTR movies have their own vision of Tolkien's world. Most "purists" disagree with that. There's a neat (and I really mean it) e-book called Parma Endorion that illustrates my point (make a search for it, I'm fairly sure it's free to download). Furthermore, if the makers of the LOTR movies explained why the Rohirrim are based on the Anglo-Saxons, then I would consider it. But they just take it for granted because A) They are undoubtedly a Germanic-like people, and
They speak Old English. I already said that the fact that they speak Old English is irrelevant in itself, since it had to be related to Modern English just like true Rohirric was related to Westron.2. Don't make me laugh. The "look" of the buildings and the armour can't be Rohirric unless in terms of the movies, which despite being so very well done, especially in these details like armour*, weapons, locations, etc, are not made by Tolkien himself. Furthermore, what traces of Anglo-Saxon architecture are unique and not shared by other Germanic tribes of their time?
*Except for Gondorian and Elven plate mail. Purists all around the world were induced to vomit because of this.
So behold the impact of the movies in the general public!
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Maedhros
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Happy birthday, Shane!
We oldies celebrate
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Actually, "Gnome" is a fairly good etymological translation of "Noldo", so even though it sounds a bit ridiculous to my ears, it's still cool because of that detail.
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Thanks!
Not surprisingly, I got the Fellowship of the Ring DVD. Also, they showed the Fellowship of the Ring EE on TV, so that was a completely nerdy birthday. Not bad, not bad...
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Hey Luke, welcome! Nice to see you here.
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Curu, you remember the British but forgot about the Canadians!
It's sad how politicians today praise D-Day as a fight for freedom and liberation (which it was only in part, but not for the politicians), forgetting the British and the Americans purposedly put off the whole operation (long before 6-6-1944 it had been agreed by all the allies that the British would open a second front in France to help the Soviets) so that Germany and the USSR could destroy themselves. Only when it was clear that the USSR was going to occupy Germany and all Eastern Europe, if given enough time, the allies decided to invade. You can argue that the USSR was bad and Stalin a murderous dictator, but think of the millions of Russians who were sacrificed.
As for soldiers, I respect them all, including the Germans who are often forgotten when in fact most of them were simply fighting for their country like any other soldier in the war. Even in movies today they're too often depicted as emotionless murderers (I'm thinking 'Saving Private Ryan', which disappointed me in this aspect).
We seem to have forgotten that WW2 was a continuation of WW1, and judge it from our modern point of view, when in fact many of the abuses of the Nazi regime, and certainly the most brutal ones, weren't known back then. The war was not a fight for freedom and democracy, no more than WW1, at least for the politicians, and in the Western front. In the Eastern front it became a war of ideology with different connotations.
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My computer won't be able to run TLA... and sadly I don't expect to upgrade it or get a new one any time soon.
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Give and get, Matteo, give and get
And thank you, Shawn!
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I definitely won't feel pity for Reagan.
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Hey, thanks guys! And so early in the day! You're actually the first people to wish me a happy birthday today, except for my mother.
Rep up to everybody! It'll be the equivalent of a celebration tequila shot round
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I guess the language was invented by the Valar, and the Maiar simply learnt it.
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and if yoou weren't lucky, the sound of the voyel could change if it wasn't 1 beat long (a vowel as "aio" was possible)...
Under what circumstances would vowels be pronounced as that?
As I said, the phonology gets simpler in time. Aspirated consonants become fricative, Š, J and Č merge in Š, etc.
Most of my radicals have three letters (usually C-V-C), but the words can end up being quite long as suffixes are added to the stem. Besides, consonantal clusters aren't allowed in initial or final position, and in middle position only those formed by S Š R Ř L + any other consonant are allowed. The radical itself, however, can end in a consonantal cluster, like ÓRK, originally "to walk", which produces words like órkávuo, órkô "orc". In the first example a short a is inserted between the radical and the derivative suffix -vu to break the forbidden consonantal cluster **rkv
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De nada, Aviv
2nd. sg. saltarrásUgh, that should be saltarás.
A E I O U P B T D K G F V Th Dh S Z Sh Zh Q X M N Nh W L J RInteresting stuff, as you say pretty Japanese-influenced (warning: my knowledge on Japanese phonology is about 0.00000000000001% - which means I just have some general and vague intuition of how it is)
I started developing a language called Órkávuaš (which means "Orkish" - even if this is only an entertainment it must have some cultural background). Actually, my sig contains a small example of this language. The original alphabet is (or was, since I started developing a descendent):
P B PH BH F V W K G KH GH X H T D TH DH þ Ð S Š R Ř L J Č Ñ M N Ŋ
A E I O U Y Æ Œ
Every vowel has three degrees of lenght: brief (á), normal (a) and long (â). The five basic vowels are the same as in Spanish or Italian. Y is the German ü (rounded i). W is a semivowel. A plosive followed by a h is an aspirated plosive (thus th is not the sound in there nor in think, but rather the initial sound heard in turn). X is the German ach-Laut. Š is the same sound as the English sh. Ř is a rolling or multiple vibrant, like the Spanish rr. J is the initial sound in yes. Č is the initial sound in church. Ñ is the nasal palatal sound of Italian gn or Spanish ñ. Ŋ is the English ng sound in final position, as in sing. So as you see, I tried to flee from digraphs as from a disease
Also, if you notice H breaks the series, as it should rather be 3 (the series go unvoiced plosive - voiced plosive - unvoiced aspirated plosive - voiced aspirated plosive - unvoiced fricative - voiced fricative). But it didn't have to be a 100% regular system, even though that "weak point" will surely make the system less stable in the future (and indeed in the "descendent" language, several of these sounds disappear and merge).
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Parties that got representation in the Congress (=Parliament) in the last elections of March 14:
PSOE (Spanish Worker Socialist Party)
PP (Popular Party)
CiU (Convergence and Union, Catalonian right-winged nationalists)
ERC (Republican Left of Catalonia, left-winged nationalists)
PNV (Basque Nationalist Party)
IU (United Left)
CC (Canarian Coalition)
BNG (Galician Nationalist Block)
CHA (Aragonese Council)
EA (Basque Unity)
Nafarroa Bai (Navarre Yes)
Tolkien's usage of Language
in The Green Dragon
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Actually, it's funnier if you don't base them on real languages, although your languages will always be influenced by the languages you speak and know of (you don't need to speak a language to know a certain grammatic construction that you can "borrow" for your own language).