Sukkit
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We need to be careful with Taliska. We can consider it to be the direct ancestor of Edainic and Adûnaic, from an "outside" perspective; but the linguistical scenario changed a lot since the 30s. For example, Tolkien wrote a grammar of Taliska that wouldn't be of any use to us.
I need to re-read The Lost Road anyway. But in the quote you posted, Tolkien mentions that Men forsook their native tongue in favour of Noldorin (>Sindarin), while in latter sources he says they never forsook their own language.
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No, simply that he's blond
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Ah, yes, that makes sense. But I have problems to conceive a way to "terminate" an Ainur if it's not Eru who does it.
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Yes, but everything else we know about the Ainur says that they're immortal. I'm skeptical about the true meaning of that passage, that's all
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Don't talk of "death" from our own point of view. Fëanor is physically death; but his spirit will still be until the end of the world.
As for the Ainur, I don't think they can die by 'normal' means. Saruman is dead, as long as we use that mannish name for his incarnation as white wizard; but his spirit isn't dead.
The way I understand the prophecy, Túrin kills the embodied Melkor, and Eru destroys his spirit. Or Eru kills Melkor through Túrin. Or something like that.
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"Braindead" remains as PJ's masterpiece
But I agree with Elf. If I tend to focus on the movie's bad points it's because I'm a nerd - what else am I supposed to do? It's my duty.
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Well, it's interesting that you mention it, because Tolkien often refers to Quenya as "Elf-Latin" (I'm translating from the Spanish version so the English form may not be exactly that).
Yes, by the Third Age Quenya was a language of knowledge (Tolkien even says that probably there were more Men that spoke and/or wrote Quenya than Elves). The Noldorin exiles forsook it as a native tongue in the First Age. Practically only in Gondolin it remained an important daily language, and even there Sindarin was more spread. Noldorin lords of the First Age (like the Sons of Fëanor) probably kept using it as their native tongue; but not their peoples.
PS: don't use "Ñoldoli", it's an obsolete term. Use "Noldor" or "Ñoldor" instead
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another question remains - if (and how) there was a difference between the Nine Rings of Men and the Seven Rings of Dwarves. Or was Sauron (after he reclaimed them in Ost-in-Edhil) to specificly able to change the abilities of the Rings in order to enslave mortal Men and Dwarves and turn them into Wraiths. Only that the enslaving and wraith-turning didn't work out with the Dwarves - it just kindled their hearts with a lust for power and riches.
Well, the rings (except the Three, and the One, of course) had probably the same or similar powers, since they weren't made thinking of whom Sauron was going to give them. Sauron took the 17 minor rings and gave them to Men and Dwarven lords, but that's all. I think
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Well, Glorfindel was probably not a pure-bred Noldor, but he most likely had Vanyarin blood, which is even better
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I still don't know why PJ's Easterlings had to be samurais carrying big tower shields, and didn't even fight in the Pelennor.
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Also, when it comes to scenario design things don't have to be 100% accurate. Theoden doesn't necessarily have to die after having killed a Haradrim chieftain, or something like that. In my opinion, one thing scenarios offer to the player is the possibility to change the story a bit.
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"Sindar" is a Quenya word meaning "The grey (elves)". The reason the Noldor called them so was one or a combination of the following:
1. They weren't Calaquendi (Light Elves), for they had never gone to Valinor; but they weren't Moriquendi (Dark Elves) either, because not only they started the journey to Valinor (and thus are counted among the Eldar), but also they had seen the Light of Valinor in Melian's face.
2. They gave them this name because their king was Elwë Sindicollo, or Elu Thingol.
3. The first Sindarin elves they found lived in Mithrim, which was a misty region.
Probably some other reason I'm forgetting.
"Eldar" means "(folk) of the stars", and was the name Oromë gave Elves when he found them in Cuivienen, because they loved staring at the stars, and the stars light shone in their eyes.
The term, that in origin applied to all the Elven folk, was later only used to those who started the great journey to Valinor. Thus the Elven folk was soon divided into two major branches: Eldar and Avari.
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But immortality was not a gift, nor a punishment. It was simply Elven nature. Therefore, if Orcs were immortal, Eru would have no reason to remove their immortality, unless he wanted to prevent their breeding too fast and overwhelming the world. But that'd be wild speculation.
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Hmm, Enarwaen, they way you put it, I'll be sure NOT to check those movies
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That review is hilarious. I wish I had seen the film, just to enjoy the review even more.
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That was mildly funny. The guys at Grey Havens have lost their sense of humour.
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You find it sad? I think it's hilarious. "Sue Tolkien", hehe.
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'Dúnedain' is a Sindarin word. So I'm in favour of it
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Exactly what Adam says. Just make sure you re-read LOTR after the Silmarillion; you'll be amazed by how many passing details get a full, deep meaning.
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Besides, in some of the battles of Beleriand Tolkien mentions Glaurung being escorted by Balrogs who ran faster than lava. It all suggests non-flying Balrogs.
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You might want to read the thread "Welcome to The Last Alliance", by Adam. It's sticky in the top of this same forum, and it will answer some of your questions.
And welcome to TLA
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That's true, that's true... Only really noble characters, like Aragorn, Faramir, Boromir or Imrahil, are described as the classic dúnadan - tall, black hair and grey eyes.
It would seem the House of Bëor reigned supreme among the dúnedain.
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Although it's too soon to know the details, the game will be divided into smaller files to download. What you suggest wouldn't work, because we'd like our game to reach a bigger audience than merely our visitors
If you don't have a good enough connection, I guess you'd have to ask a friend to download it for you and burn it to a CD. That's what I'll have to do (if I upgrade my computer so it can run the game, I mean)
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Even in that case (I'm not sure they didn't use the term 'Dúnedain' to refer to themselves) that minds little. The Sindar, for example, didn't called themselves 'Sindar'. The Haradrim didn't call themselves 'Haradrim', nor they land 'Harad'. What really matters is how they were known.
discussion topic on the Evil Armies
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Should we really limit the editor like that? I don't see any reason to do it.
Sauron's forces were much weaker than Melkor's, but so were Second and Third Age Noldor. Sauron probably will have a greater need to ally with independents (like Haradrim and Easterlings), but he'll do well.