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Clodhopper

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  1. If evolution is based on observation then why is there such a lack of it? Also, many promonent scientists also say that evolution is a non-falsifiable theory (which is not good), as well as it being a religion.

    1 something + 1 something will always be 2 somethings (never 3).
    How do you know?
  2. I do have one, but it's not about me...

    One of my brothers and his friend were playing with airsofts in front of a highway one time, and and pretty soon, several police cars screeched to a halt near the area and drew beads on their faces. It took a little while for them to realize it was not a joke and these were real police, with real guns. After that, my dad said that if my brother wanted to play airsoft out near the highway, he would need to call the chief of police. It was pretty funny, now that I look back at it... :king:

  3. dathui:

    The laws of logic can be proven. Since you say that mathematics derieve from logics, if i prove mathematics exist i prove that logic exists right?

    Nope, you see, by trying to do that, you use the laws of logic. Mathematics uses logic. So that's also circular reasoning.

    sure, if you can convince me.
    To convince you i would need to do what exactly?
  4. I think Yiuel pretty much said it. And when they put the air supply on her, at the same time the guy puts the bottle of beer to his mouth- it's sad, I tell you. It's a good reminder of the pain of a death of a close family member because of drunk driving. :king:

  5. 1) There's no proof.
    1. I have no proof that he's out there.

    Surely you two know that all one needs to do to prove something is to prove the impossibility of the contrary. In this case, all I would need to do is to prove the impossibility of atheism. And if atheism is falsified, the only other option is theism. Either there is a God or there isn't. Now, we can start with the laws of logic: What right does an atheist have to use the laws of logic? They are immaterial, and they cannot be proven. The laws of Mathematics flows from the laws of Logic as well. And so on. So, one might say, "The laws of logic prove themselves", but in the end, that is circular reasoning (which is a logical fallacy. One might also say, "The laws of logic have been invented and chosen by men", but then all we would need to do is gather around and change them, and presto! We have new logic! Anyway, for a theist, the laws of Logic reflects God's thinking. So for an atheist, there's nothing immaterial. With nothing immaterial, we get no God, and no laws of logic.

    IF a non-corporeal entity does exist with a lifespan across billions of years i don't really see why it would take any notice of humans.

    I don't see how this affects this debate. IRC, because the subject is: is there a God?

    I don't see a problem with creation of mass or life if it has enough energy at it's disposal.

    So you're willing to "convert?"

    2. My parents don't believe in Him, so I wasn't raised with the thought that he was there.

    And that makes you an atheist?

    I don't need him, I have a good life and I don't need a God to give me hope.

    If you say so... :king:

    4. Even if there's something out there, I don't think it would be the way as Christianity says it is, or whatever religion that is. If you look at how many different views people have, then most people have a "wrong" view of it, which I don't think is true because everyone seeks hope in a different way. God isn't for me some kind of super-diety but more like hope, something inside of people.

    A hope for what?

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