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Yes exatly. My point is that there are group of ecobot celt players who bonus celt for their wishes.

This is not how u balance units. Are you a dev? Its simple, fanas run fast, they run. They are not going to attack cs like what u tested. They target women on field for example. Or a small group of men which are mining etc. That totally will destroy enemy eco. Then at a critical moment the fana player send all soldiors and kill his opponent. And both are still in p2. Other problem is that u cant counter fanas with cavs. And its very hard to micro with cavs vs fanas because they run fast. As chris himself in his first post said, a group of fanas easily can kill lot of cavs! Which show how broken they are. Moreover why only gaul should have a super op anti cav unit? Because its favorite civ of chris he bonused it? Fanas already required metal in last alphas. Why they dont require it now?

Its not about metal. Its about a way to stop fanatics spam in p2. Locking them in p2 and unlocking in p3 is other way to stop abusing fanatics in p2 too. Without requiring metal for them.

Because the replays have no title its hard to find them. I have to wait for new games then i save them. After a while i share them here

I sure non of the players who say fanatics arent broken able to counter fatanics rush in p2. Because they rarely play. Not in the op th games and not experienced that. They just ready to stop people who try to help balancing the game. I think developers should read this post. Idk them. Maybe somebody tag them here?

If there is a better player here i would 1v1 him rated Also i 1v1 you too if u believe u r better. No player here could counter fanatics abuse that aslan uses. Even strong players. if some players claims could do it, lets they share the replay.

With iq 130 how u compare food with metal? What if u have no extra metal? Can u still make champs? And how you can speak about amor while people can get fanatics in p2 and ruin the game. Aslan is a good example. People who spec his games know how he abuse fanatics and ruin all games. Also nothing can counter fanatics when people are in p2.

Exactly what you say about me is wrong. Im just want a balanced game. As i said already nothing can counter mass fanatics. Its not only about cavs. Moreover what u mentioned about fanatics which able to kill a large group of cavs, which require too much metal, is a other bug of the game. And also, why fanatics doesnt require metal like other champs? letting players easily make a mass of champs and abusing them? Making a good eco for mass fanatics is simple. Dont tell me not all able to do that.

They are broken because spearmen cant counter them U can get metal easily like how u get wood easily from trees Also with abit turtling u can spam them

Here we are talking about countering units not game play. Any unit in 0ad should have counters.

Ok tell me with which unit you counter champ spear cavs of persian with hero and 20% more hp bonus? Yudha is for destroying buildings. It even cant counter normal units well.

I mention and emphasize again,fanatics and champ cavs have no counter. Some nave people say you can counter champs with champs. But its not that true. For example for sele/persian/gaul cav champs, there is 0 counter units ( or champs) in Maury civ. Other units like citizens or mercs ( even cav mercs) have counter in all civs, then they are ok.

Besides the champion cavaliers, Fanatics are by far the most broken units in the game. Seriously, these units are insanely overpowered and hard to counter. Can anyone name a unit that can reliably stop Fanatics? I bet you can’t. They run fast, deal massive damage, and don’t even require metal to produce, which makes spamming them nonstop super easy. The only thing the developers could have done to stop the spamming of this unit was to add metal as a required resource. Unfortunately, they didn’t do that There are players abusing this by spamming Fanatics in P2, and it’s ruining the game for everyone. I wouldn’t be surprised if some ecobot or clever Celt player designed this unit to exploit the game by spamming them relentlessly for an unfair advantage. What do you guys think? Any ideas on how to properly nerf or counter these broken units? I believe adding metal as a required resource to build them would be an effective way to balance this unit. Moreover all cav champs should be nerfed for sure. We’ve already banned Champion Cavaliers from our games, and Fanatics definitely need to be banned as well. If the developers don’t nerf these units in the next alpha update and keep introducing unfair, broken units, we’ll have no choice but to keep banning them from our matches to maintain fair gameplay.

Because they present in all op games if i dont play with them i have to spec all time.

Hi. I mean the below cheats: Progui Select box for sniping Auto start Also i 100% disagree that a27 could decrease effect of these cheats. In addition a27 itself is a broken version with broken champs.