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  3. Attack-ground: include in A26 or not?

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    Posted · Edited by Grapjas

    Obviously attack group is better than attack ground, i never doubted that. But do you really want to take away such skill/interaction from the game? It seems like you do, but honestly i don't and there are people on both sides. You say attack group requires micro and skill but i honestly doubt that in realtime, it would pretty much be a simple repaint of an area once in a while.

    There is pretty much no risk involved with attack group. There is no misusing attack group other than letting your ranged get eaten by swordsmen for example, which would be bad in all occassions, even without attack ground/group. Micro should give you an edge over your opponent, and attack group takes too much from it. You might aswell make it their standard attack behavior unless manually commanded otherwise. People who don't like micro will get balanced by elo tbh.

    Besides, units are clustered on the battlefield all the time, not just on choke points.  A one time volley on a resizable circle attack ground would be a pretty useful thing to have imo, with the choice of a continious one with a combination of a hotkey (for all ranged units, just to be clear, not just archers). But with risk of misusing / poor judgement and without it being the new standard way to play.

    Attack ground will also give usefulness to formations whereas it wouldn't with attack group.

    Also attack group needs a heavier rebalance than attack ground but whether that's a problem or not depends on the balancing team. 

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  9. Attack-ground: include in A26 or not?

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    2 hours ago, LetswaveaBook said:

    Pyrogenesis doesn't actually simulate the physical trajectories of projectiles, so it has trouble detecting if a projectile hits a unit if the unit wasn't specifically targeted. That would make most of the arrows miss harmlessly, even if they landed in the middle of a group.

    If i'm not mistaken, a projectile that lands within any footprint (the circle/square below the unit/building) counts as a hit. So a projectile missing the main target can easily hit his neighbour.

    I'm gonna have to say that i think "target units within area" sounds a little to strong and a little cheesy tbh. Whereas "attack area" can have it's niche and strategic moments where it can be usefull like firing at chokepoint or a clustered group while involving some risk to it. Which would infinitely be more effective (gaining efficiency the larger the army) than if your units would target 1 unit at a time and overkill them, when properly used. Which happens all the time with for example 20 Javelins attacking 1 unit while with attack area you could potentially hit alot more different units at the same time depending on when and how it's used. 

     

    It also can be backed up a little by history when archers as a group didn't really precisely target individuals in decently sized battles but mainly focused on volley arrows into a group of enemies.

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  10. Interpreting Unit Resistence to Damage

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    13 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

    1000 food seems a lot

    I mean it's a strategic availability to build more farms/traders to go for more elephants. 

    13 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

    30

    That's alot and pretty much an unstoppable force at that point. 

    13 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

    Seleucids and Mauryas

    Could make the cost lower for them as a more specialized civ for elephants, or with a unique exclusive tech.

    13 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

    Folks get too caught up in the naming of the attacks

    Nothing wrong with (trying to) keeping them logical though. Pierce weapons have a sharp point, whereas hack weapons has sharp sides, and crush is simply blunt weapons. Tusks don't have sharp sides (unless weaponized).

  11. Interpreting Unit Resistence to Damage

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    Posted · Edited by Grapjas

    11 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

    Attack type should be Tusks, not Trunk (lmao).

    I noticed this too when modding it lol.

    Could also just make them cost alot of food imo, because it's not too hard to get a good food income. Say like 1000 food so that they won't be spammed like crazy. It wouldn't be too hard to mix an elephant or two into your army (depending on the flow of the game ofc). 

    The damage type should probably be pierce (main) and a bit of crush because they headbutt and sidesweep targets. Maybe a tech upgrade that let's them hit 3 nearby units at once, but split the damage across enemies hit.

    11 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

    Game needs trample effects.

    It's on my to-do list for the mod (no eta though lol).

  12. Interpreting Unit Resistence to Damage

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    37 minutes ago, Thales said:

    Is that interpretation correct?

    That is correct if with succesful you mean effective. It doesn't mean it has a 52% chance to succesfully attack a target.

     

    36 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

    attack and cost

    I agree, if anything, the stats for attack should be inverted. Elephants should be a shock unit, not a siege unit imo.

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  16. Multiplayer lobby player colors

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    Posted · Edited by Grapjas

    45 minutes ago, nani said:

    I don't know if this would be a good change (opinion), if I want to know the rating of someone I just read his rating not the color.

    It's not out of necessity but more of a fun way to represent rank and it being a small reward for the 1v1's you've been through. Though, there was an opinion that there are to many font colors going on (every player has a vastly different color) which kinda got me into looking into font-colors altogether. This could potentially bring it together a little more or at least develop a pattern (or it could still be to crowded for some). I get what you mean though, and there are probably like-minded people. So your opinion is noted.

    I also could consider making an option to enable/disable font colors in general.

  17. Multiplayer lobby player colors

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    Posted · Edited by Grapjas

    To be clear, i'm asking everyone, not just developers

    In an attempt to improve the multiplayer lobby ui, i want to collect some opinions. You can find the related patch here and obviously is still a work in progress (what i'm about to ask hasn't been included yet).

    One of the ideas i had was to give players colors based on their rating. vid for reference as example:

    Now the question is, which colors would you like to see it change into depending on rating?*

    Right now it goes from Green (700) -> white (1200) -> Gold (1200-1999) -> Red (2500) in small increments (~every 25 rating the color will change, unless in the red zone) the higher the rating is. Please also vote in the poll.

     

    *One thing to also keep in mind is that there are player status icons that also have colors depending on what the player is doing like so:

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    Thanks in advance.

    EDIT: I'm aware 1700-2000 doesn't change much, which i will fix. It's more of a showcase to give you an idea.

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  19. 0 AD's focus on balance has crippled its design

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    Posted · Edited by Grapjas

    1 hour ago, clavz said:

    but it is kinda complex and many people will just give up, and the number of people is important. 

    I agree. Getting into installing SVN, Trac and Phab, can be frustrating, intimidating and time consuming. It's quite a bump you must get over before you can actually try contributing or feeling like you're actually helping (<- of which i'm often not so sure of myself).

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  21. 0 AD's focus on balance has crippled its design

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    1 hour ago, smiley said:

    The fact that there are use cases doesn't necessarily mean it would actually be deemed useful. Code that isn't run is useless.

    I think it's a pretty good idea and people would be grateful for it, in the worst case scenario it's a showcase thing and people can always fork the idea into something else. Just wondering why you're not doing it yourself because you pretty much seem to have it figured out already and are capable of making it. But now i'm also wondering why you want to let somebody else do it if you think it's going to be useless. 

  22. 0 AD's focus on balance has crippled its design

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    Posted · Edited by Grapjas

    2 hours ago, smiley said:

    Maybe someone reading this might want to give that a go because creating a barebones launcher with those sets of features is extremely simple. Or perhaps create a ticket and tag simple. In fact, it literally requires no changes to 0AD. Just make a simple GUI in X language that can download binaries and put them in different namespaces. `play0ad/v24/` and `play0ad/v25/` or something. Launch with writable root to prevent cache mixing I guess. If you want to make it fancy, write a content map and you could have an update process that downloads only change files. If you want even fancier, maybe consider binary diffing too.

    Why not make it yourself if it's so simple?

  23. 0 AD's focus on balance has crippled its design

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    Posted · Edited by Grapjas

    5 hours ago, Freagarach said:

    Not if we consider the fact that we (mostly I am guilty) break compatibility quite often. ^^'

    I said leans towards, not is ;)

    You probably won't find an alpha thats more playable than 0AD, even plenty beta's get released in worst states and probably even fully released games. Besides adding new broken and unbalanced features/updates is something that released tripple A games do all the time. Not saying that should be the standard but it's just for comparison. The meaning of "released", "alpha" and "beta" definitely shifted alot with early access being a popular thing to do nowadays.

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