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    • Yeah that's pretty much what we have been discussed with @Atrikin the previous messages. I do like more a vertical layout design rather than an horizontal you propose (as the vanilla is) because I think it's much more easy to read and identifies the different stats as can be seen here: @Atrikmaybe you could share a screenshot of this same damage tooltip of a melee unit so we can see how is shown? ( I'm at the cellphone rn )   About DPS number shown next to the unit portrait. I rather put the final damage of the unit instead of the DPS calculation as I find it a bit confusing. I guess some would say it's better to compare different units damage per second as different units have different attack intervals.
    • I'm not a designer... dozens of ideas could exist... Either change the color of the sword and shield, bow, etc.? Or highlight it with that color. It's up to you to have fun with what seems best to you.
    • I love the idea, however the current stats are displayed agnostic of sources of the bonuses. I'm still going to try to see if a grayscale of the icon (proportional of the bonuses amount) can look good.
    • Thanks Atrik for these interesting charts, for Kush is it possible for you to tell us the proportion of mercenary spam for these top evenings? I'm curious Ptol are not bad yes , they have a different way to play them, but why they are "slow"?   
    • Yes and no, It can give new players bad shackles with advice that is situational. Who will change these tips when the balance team decides to remake pikemen into tank unit? It is better for the player to discover his own strengths and weaknesses by instinct (reading statistics) and experience. ---- To determine the opponent's improvement progress and avoid memes (which are only identifiable by experienced players), we could consider a system of colors.  stacked? Or a color system, for example, bronze, silver, and gold (this easily resonates with people). Tech 0: Grayed Tech 1: Bronze Tech 2: Silver Tech 3: Gold Tech 4 (Iberian and Maurya): Diamond To satisfy everyone, we have two display options accessible via a button: the arcade button with the bare minimum of vital information and the detailed button with the full list (stats and future idea like counter kill etc) example just for bronze color, but keep the design of 0AD of course  
    • yea, but thats why i like vanillas system; you dont get the stats on your screen all the time, but you can hover over the icon and read them all if you want
    • Yeah, I never look at stats in game. But making them completely hidden, including on the structure tree is just hiding the ball. It's something that is frustrating about some techs like the Mace Silver Shield. I shouldn't need to go into the directory to understand how different units differ from one another or how a tech impacts units. This is especially annoying when stats like spread (accuracy) or projectile velocity vary from one unit (or building) to another. There's literally no reason for it
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