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Buenos días o tardes;

-Me está resultando difícil encontrar información al respecto ,sobre los malayos por ejemplo,encontré algunos reinos a.C/BC como;

  1. Kedah tua
  2. Kandis
  3. Chi-Tu
  4. Kelantan
  5. Pahang Tua
  6. Perak
  7. Tambralinga
  8. Langasuka
  9. Gangga Negara

-Hay mucho texto con varias descripciones pero pocas reconstrucciones o ninguna.

-Del reino de Kedah Tua y de ciudades del valles de Lembah Bujang, como Sungai Batu encontré;

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Aquí una ampliación del asentamiento del escaparate ;

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-Otra reconstrucción de Sungai Batu , que se ve en el sitio arqueológico es :

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-Aquí un posible templo reconstruido , pero la datación de la fecha aún sigue en debate y estudio;

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-Si alguien conoce o tiene referencias sería de gran ayuda.

 

 

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Buenos días o tardes;

-Me está resultando difícil encontrar información al respecto ,sobre los javaneses tengo muy poco también ;

Esta reconstrucción de una aldea de pescadores en una exposición;

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Y esta reconstrucción 3d de un supuesto santuario;

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-Hay varias descripciones de que en la isla hubo un reino fuerte ,Yawadwipa y restos de alguna cultura como Buni .

 

 

-Si alguien conoce o tiene referencias sería de gran ayuda.

 

 

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On 01/01/2022 at 7:59 AM, DIYARAKUZA said:

Greetings! I'm from Sri Lanka. I speak Sinhalese and a little Tamil. I'm happy to help you if you plan on developing this civ in the future and I think adding the Tamils is a great idea because they were the biggest power in Southern India. However they don't achieve the height of their power until until the medieval age (900 AD - 1300 AD). The same could be said about the Sinhalese. In my opinion both these civs would be more fitting in a millennium AD mod. But still they both did exist in the 500 BC - 500 AD time frame and had a good level of sophistication.

Buenos día o tardes @DIYARAKUZA;

-¿Tendrían usted referencias sobre los Tamiles del período 500-1 B.C (Tamilakam,EarlyCholas/Pandyas/Cheras, Periodo Sangam...) o cualquier cosa relacionada?solo encuentro textos, nada de referencias gráficas... encontré algunos reyes como;

  1. Nedunjeliyan I (Pandya)
  2. Karikala Chola (Chola)
  3. Ellalan (Tamil of Sri lanka)

 

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1 hour ago, Duileoga said:

-¿Tendrían usted referencias sobre los Tamiles del período 500-1 B.C (Tamilakam,EarlyCholas/Pandyas/Cheras, Periodo Sangam...) o cualquier cosa relacionada?

I'm very familiar with Ellalan as he was a Chola prince who conquered Sri Lanka around 200 B.C. There are historical sources such as the Mahavamsa you can refer but like you said, it's difficult to find graphical representations. I'll look into it and see what I can find 

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11 hours ago, DIYARAKUZA said:

I'm very familiar with Ellalan as he was a Chola prince who conquered Sri Lanka around 200 B.C. There are historical sources such as the Mahavamsa you can refer but like you said, it's difficult to find graphical representations. I'll look into it and see what I can find 

-Buenas ,estuve haciendo la facción de Anuradhapura y vi que hubo varias invasiones tamiles y varios Reyes cholas y Pandyas reinaron sobre la isla de Sri lanka;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anuradhapura_kingdom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_Dravidians


-Sena and Guththika (237-215 a.C) (Chola)
-Elara (205–161 BC) (Chola)

-Five Dravidian chiefs ( 103-89 a.C)
 Pulahatta, Bahiya, Panya Mara, Pilaya Mara  y Dathika (Pandyas)

(Total:8 reyes para la ia)

 

-Aquí el Príncipe cingalés Dutugamunu venciendo a Elara en la batalla de Anuradhapura (Autor:Prasanna Weerakkody)

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-Pero creo que estaría mejor además de incluir la innegable influencia histórico-cultura tamil en Sri Lanka , centrarse en el lugar de origen , en los Estados indios de ;

  1. Tamil Nadu
  2. Kerala
  3. Karnataka
  4. Andhra Pradesh
  5. Telangana

 

-¿Ustedes que opinan?

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Duileoga said:

-Pero creo que estaría mejor además de incluir la innegable influencia histórico-cultura tamil en Sri Lanka , centrarse en el lugar de origen , en los Estados indios de ;

  1. Tamil Nadu
  2. Kerala
  3. Karnataka
  4. Andhra Pradesh
  5. Telangana

 

-¿Ustedes que opinan?

The main difficulty with that is the absence or obscurity of surviving archaeological material and records from southern Indian states during the 0AD time frame. There is of course the Tamil Sangam literature but aside from historical evidence for the existence of the following two kings, much of the work is considered mythical.

22 hours ago, Duileoga said:
  • Nedunjeliyan I (Pandya)
  • Karikala Chola (Chola)

There are some inscriptions and caves that are within the 0AD time frame but I'm not aware of anything that will be useful in putting together these factions, which means I need to look further. I'll try to get in touch with someone who can help me with this.

For now the best references I have are the Mahavamsa and the Dipavamsa (Older than Mahavamsa) which are both from Sri Lanka. But I think there may be more obscure sources from southern India that can satisfy us, and since I'm perfectly located for this task I won't stop searching. I'll get back to you as soon as I find something :victory:

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