Celtic Chariots

[Mathghamhain]

Will the Gauls/Celts have chariots?

These were a very common vehicle of war among the celtic peoples (all be it, more basic than greek or persian chariots), used mostly for hit and run attacks and to carry warlords swiftly around the battlefield. I think even if they are kept to a minimum, this would vastly improve the historical accuracy and flavor factor for the celts.

*this is the first web forum i've ever been a part of so bear with me

British War Chariot

[Wijitmaker]

Welcome to the forums! Yes the Celts with have chariots. In fact the chariot is the Celt's unique unit.

[TheCobra1]

Wait a sec, I thought the Greeks disdained and didn't use anything in the military that was used by the horse saying, "A horse's only ability is to carry a man swiftly from the battlefield (Or something like that)."

Will the Greeks have horse units?

[Mythos_Ruler]

The Greeks used cavalry. Ever heard of Hyppikons, Prodromoi, Hetairoi?

[scipio_africanus]

From memory didn't the greeks have powerful cavalry and archers but as time wore on they slowly made more use of Hoplitai.

By the way I'm just Scipii_alemanus. I lost my password and I stopped using my normal hotmail address as it was to clogged with... I don't even want to know (shows what happens when you give your brother your account name {not password})

[Mythos_Ruler]

The Greeks used mostly (90%) Hoplites until the Persian Wars, where they learned the value of mixed-unit armies. Light troops (akontistes, psiloi, peltasts) were used increasingly during the Peloponnesian Wars. After the defeat of the city-states by Macedon, cavalry was increasingly used for more than just scouting and light raids.

[scipio_africanus]

see i knew i was wrong. stupid youth with AoE handbook education.

[216 B.C.]

Also the city state of Thessaly was famous for its caverly early on and later throughout the hellenistic age.

[Mythos_Ruler]

Thessalian cavalry were the best in the Hellenic world until Philip's reforms of the Macedonian army.

[Undo]

My reference book says:

The Greek cavalry was not formed until the middle of the 5th Century BC. It was not in evidence at the battle of Marathon (490 BC) or later at Plataeus, but then the exploits of the Persian cavalary during the wars against the Medes inspired the Greeks to form a cavalry arm.

[kilroyturner]

So how do you all think that the celtic chariots of war will be in this game? Will they be able to rain arrows and javilins down among there foes or will they just act as a quick form of transportation for other infantry units.

[Apomonomenos]

The Greeks DID have chariots. When invading Troy, the Greeks mostly had one type of soldier, a soldier similar to the hoplite (The AoM version of a hoplite is from the classical age)

http://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Greece-Odyss...d/dp/0199105324

this site leads to a store of a book about the Trojan war (hopefully a library near you has a copy of this book).

If you look on pages 26-27, 33 and 38-39, you'll see some pictures of Greek and Trojan chariots. (P.S. the Trojans were really Babylons, but worshiped Persian gods and Zeus and Apollo, unlike what AoM states that they were Greeks)

Edited March 29, 2008 by Alexthegod5

[FirePowa8]

The Mykenaian style of warfare was very different to the post-dark age Greek armies. Even in the archaic period massive advances were made, such as with the Hellenized phalanx being formed and the huge development of weapons and armour from the 6th century BC onwards. Chariots were strictly a form of transport or leisure during most of the archaic era onwards, though richer men may have served as cavalry in the archaic period.

As for Trojans being Babylonians, that sounds like quite controversial thinking, as only the very furthest south-eastern tip of Turkey was Mesopotamian, let alone Babylonian. The Trojans were simply Anatolians with an Aegean culture.

That book is really good though, and as expected has fantastic artwork!

Edited April 1, 2008 by FirePowa8

[Apomonomenos]

Yea, i get Babylonians and Anatolians mixed up alot

don't get why i do.

Another question; will there be chariots for romans because they did have it, but I'm not sure if they were used in battle or not.