Micket

Reworked the legs from a standing position. It's hard to make legs that will deform nicely from walking to sun-bathing (which is what the crocs idle animation should be).

http://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/1976 Working on the croc. Still plenty left to do. Legs are a bit tricky.

I also had some similar ideas about the neck fluff. Do what you think works out best.

Looks great. I hope we can have some alpha for the whiskers, as eye-candy ? If not, we could drop them alltogether, or at least, modify them.

Fixed the texture. darn hard to find good photos for the wing from above. http://www.flickr.co...shi/6580254701/ http://www.flickr.co...shi/5488404797/ Edit: Aw crap. He had NC on those photos. Edit2: I sent him an email asking if he would consider dropping NC on those two photos.

http://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/1983 Felt like doing a quick one. Based on this image for shape and texture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alectoris-chukar-001.jpg partridge.zip

I compiled a list of all the animals in here (minus the ones which already have tickets) in a format which should make it easier to add new animals to trac. I don't know exactly which species it should be, so I can't add wikipedia links. I would suggest creating all of them, and close the ones which are finished already. If the species isn't decided upon it can be added later. I could add these now (though i wouldn't mind splitting the work, we could arrange it over IRC). Ok? Animal: Albatross Animal Cosmetic Africa Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (fly) Animal: Eagle Animal Cosmetic Alpine Desert Mediterranean Savanna Steppe Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (fly) Animal: Egret Animal Cosmetic Mediterranean Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (fly) Animal: Flamingo Animal Cosmetic Savanna Africa Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (stand idle) Animal: Goose Animal Cosmetic Alpine Mediterranean Steppe Temperate Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (swim) Animal: Gull Animal Cosmetic Alpine Mediterranean Polar Savanna Temperate Africa Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (fly) Animal: Parrot Animal Cosmetic Savanna Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (fly) Animal: Porpoise Animal Cosmetic Mediterranean Africa Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (swim) Animal: Shark Animal Cosmetic Mediterranean Temperate Africa Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (swim) Animal: Vulture Animal Cosmetic Alpine Desert Mediterranean Polar Savanna Steppe Tmperate Africa Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (fly, stand idle) Animal: Camel Animal Domestic Desert Steppe Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Goat Animal Domestic Desert Medieterranean Savanna Steppe Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Horse Animal Domestic Alpine Dsert Savanna Steppe Temperate Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Oxen Animal Domestic Alpine Desert Mediterranean Savanna Steppe Temperate Africa Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Pig Animal Domestic Mediterranean Savanna Temperate Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Sheep Animal Domestic Alpine Desert Mediterranean Steppe Temperate Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: African Elephant Animal Huntable Aggresive Savanna Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run, attack) Animal: Asian Elephant Animal Huntable Aggresive Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run, attack) Animal: Cobra Animal Huntable Aggresive Desert Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (movement, attack) Animal: Lion Animal Huntable Aggresive Desert Mediterranean Savanna Africa Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run, attack) Animal: North African Forest Elephant Animal Huntable Aggresive Mediterranean Africa Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run, attack) Animal: Polar Bear Animal Huntable Aggresive Polar Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run, attack) Animal: Syrian Elephant Animal Huntable Aggresive Mediterranean Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run, attack) Animal: Bear Animal Huntable Defensive Alpine Desert Medieterranean Steppe Temperate Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run, attack) Animal: Boar Animal Huntable Defensive Medieterranean Savanna Temperate Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run, attack) Animal: Cheetah Animal Huntable Defensive Desert Savanna Africa Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run, attack) Animal: Gorilla Animal Huntable Defensive Africa Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run, attack) Animal: Hyena Animal Huntable Defensive Savanna Africa Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Leopard Animal Huntable Defensive Africa Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Python Animal Huntable Defensive Savanna Africa Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (movement, ?) Animal: Walrus Animal Huntable Defensive Polar Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run, attack) Animal: Chicken Animal Huntable Passive Desert Medieterranean Savanna Steppe Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Fish Animal Huntable Passive Alpine Desert Mediterranean Polar Savanna Steppe Temperate Africa Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (swim) Animal: Peafowl (Peacock and Peahen) Animal Huntable Passive Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run, attack) Animal: Whale Animal Huntable Passive Mediterranean Polar Temperate Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (swim) Animal: Antelope Animal Huntable Skittish Savanna Steppe Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Baboon Animal Huntable Skittish Africa Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Bison (European) Animal Huntable Skittish Steppe Temperate Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Deer Animal Huntable Skittish Alpine Mediterranean Temperate Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Gazelle Animal Huntable Skittish Desert Savanna Africa Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Giraffe Animal Huntable Skittish Desert Savanna Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Ostrich Animal Huntable Skittish Desert Savanna Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Patridge Animal Huntable Skittish Desert Savanna Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Pheasent Animal Huntable Skittish Alpine Mediterranean Steppe Temperate Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Rabbit Animal Huntable Skittish Alpine Desert Mediterranean Savanna Steppe Temperate Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Reindeer Animal Huntable Skittish Polar Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Rhesus Macaque Animal Huntable Skittish Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Rock Ptarmigan Animal Huntable Skittish Polar Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Seal Animal Huntable Skittish Polar Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Water Buffalo Animal Huntable Skittish Savanna Africa Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Wildebeest Animal Huntable Skittish Savanna Africa Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Zebra Animal Huntable Skittish Savanna Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run) Animal: Crocodile Animal Huntable Violent Desert Savanna Africa Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, attack, swim) Animal: Gharial Animal Huntable Violent Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, attack, swim) Animal: Rhinoceros Animal Huntable Violent Africa Asia Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run, attack) Animal: Wolf Animal Huntable Violent Alpine Mediterranean Polar Steppe Temperate Requires: Models, Textures, Animations (walk, run, attack)

http://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/1975 I wanted to do a bird, so this time it's just a decorative animal. Very low poly, 134 faces (if its just going to be flying, no more should be needed). I just put on some half-assed texture to try the alpha for the feathers (the texture is just projected from photo from underneath! it has claws on its back now Added a basic rig to it as well so i could pose it. hawk.zip

I feel pretty satisfied with the model now. tiger.zip

I think I got the features down, more or less. Will continue tweaking. I was planning for some whiskers and neck-fluff with alpha maps.

http://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/1974 I've seen people asking about a remade tiger model, so I started working on one. I haven't gotten very far yet, so this is just a heads up. I used a bengal tiger as a reference, but to be honest, I can barely tell the species apart so it might just as well be something else.

Well.. Good for me that I started with the tiger then! Hard to find any good clean profile pictures though.

Updated Sorry Enrique, completely new UV-map now. Good news is that I managed to get rid of a few more triangles and made better use of the texture space. oryx.zip

Looking good Enrique. We make a good team * I think the black stripe on the bellow should go all the way up the neck. http://commons.wikim...ash_NP_Oryx.jpg * Some of them also have a black stripe on their back and on the mane http://commons.wikim...yx_beisa%29.jpg * For the tail I figured an alpha map would be suitable. The many as well. * The toes are to dark http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Antelope_new.jpg

I just felt a need to point out that hippos also tend to be in water I'll do a crocodile next then, but could someone please specify which subspeices it should be? Nile crocodile?

I stayed at 838 triangles in the end. Next animal model is up for a vote i guess. I'm thinking Ostrich, or maybe crocodile (if so, exactly which subspecies should I model it after?) oryx.zip

Alright, then I'll stick with the current model. I have a bit of tweaking left, but I'll post and update when I'm finished rigging it up and UV-map it.

http://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/1967 Modeling an Oryx. It's a big to high poly this time, (currently 850 triangles). I was aiming for 700, like specified in the art document, but there is plenty of regions that could be simplified, but I figured I'd finish this model first before tweaking it for 0AD I've been rigging it up to see how it looks (but it's not quite finished). Here is a sample

Of course, noone is suggesting no forum posts. Keep the discussion here, sure. But the "todo"-list should be in the issue tracker. When some art object is finished in the forums, add it to svn, just close the issue in Trac. Having to use the forum, then I might have just started working on a Wildebeest, or rabbit, or goat, like was suggested to me. This would of course be a waste of time since they all seem to be in 0AD already. Maybe they are just missing animations, or perhaps the model isn't that great? I have no idea. This: http://www.wildfiregames.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=15686 is just a inefficient manual issue tracker, and also out-of-date. Since it's quite clearly not a good way to keep track of things, so I've simply been suggested 'eh, just check in atlas and cross-reference with all the forum posts manually'. And that won't tell me if a model needs to be modified, it doesn't say if the model is there, just missing textures, I... feel like i'm taking crazy pills for having to argue for using an issue tracker to keep track of issues in a large collaborative open project. In fact, no artists would need to change any of their habits, all that would change is the addition of a proper way of tracking what needs to be done. Some maintainer could still aloen just use the issue tracker to keep track of what needs to be done, instead of writing a list in a forum post.

Again, that list doesn't say which ones are missing, or just needs texture or just animation, or is just partly animated, or which type of animal it should be. I would much rather see some Trac tickets for each animal (where they are updated whenever there is a mesh, or some texture is submitted), and some meta-tickets for each region. Forums are good for discussion, but this is exactly what issue-trackers where designed for.

Why isn't there a Trac for art development to keep track of what needs to be done? Seems like the obvious choice to keep track on who is working on what. Tickets for each animal or building type. Meta tickets for regions, etc. An animal ticket could be closed when all its mesh, the texture and armature-rig + animation is all done. The tickets could specify which type of, e.g. tiger, it should be modeled after (possibly after one reaches an agreement on the forums). Right now I have to look through year old threads. You mention Wildebeests and Goats, but both of these seem to be in data pack I downloaded (both in a dae.cached.pmd format which I'm unable to open). Maybe they are just placeholders, or it's just the animation that's missing? I have no idea.

I started with a Beisa Oryx (East African Oryx) Edit: Looks like this so far, I'll try to finish it tomorrow.

Well, those are only animals that are in the game already. I saw the other list had Oryx, which looks awesome and doesn't seem to be in the game yet, so i'll just model that.

The other animal thread hadn't been updated in quite some time. I want to model something, which are the priority animals?

Great job on the texturing Enrique (and very fast!)! You are probably correct about the width. I would rather just model new animals (or assets), unless, of course, there is an overabundance with modelers already? Edit: B.t.w, is the 0AD art usually made available somewhere outside the private SVN? I figured I'd put this up on OpenGameArt as well.