madmax

hehe.... yeah the middle finger created quite a buzz

Well I only found this so far...sounds hackey though : http://stackoverflow...optimus-laptops It may not be possible to create an nvidia context directly, you may just get an intel one, but one of the answers says its possible to create an application profile in the Nvidia Control panel for 0ad. One of the initial answers indicates that bf3.exe is run with nvidia automatically - battlefield 3 ? So towards the end he mentions that if the laptop is switched to High Performance from the windows power management panel then the nvidia card stays on and applications should be started with it. I haven't tested that though. This is a tool i use to check if the nvidia gpu is on : nvidia optimus gpu state viewer http://forums.laptop...in-users-hands/

Well I think some games are able to see both the cards while some cant. I am not sure how but I think there is driver support for detecting an nvidia card even if its not on due to power saving and optimus.

First off, the game looks awesome now ! I love the bump mapping on the hill sides that give a sense of depth. Congrats on a great release and all the hardwork. I am on i7, nvidia 630m, 14 gb ram, and I just don't get the responsiveness of AoK when I scroll. I kept only the 2 shadow options on and turned off everything else. Where could the bottleneck be in the code exactly ? There was some profiling done by Ykkrosh sometimes back and I think pathfinding was an issue. Cant it be simplified more ? maybe do it in a separate thread. I am playing the default Acropolis scenario that gets loaded when someone clicks through the 1st time without changing any options in the game setup screens. By they way for the initial map load, is it possible to show a progress bar. It takes really long and a progress bar would help. ------ Edit -------------- ok sorry sorry, it was my mistake. it seems my laptop has the silly nvidia optimus thing so I needed to make sure that pyrogenesis.exe was started with the nvidia card. It was starting with the intel hd graphics 3000 and thats why it was so slow. Now I have smooth scrolling and movement with all features turned on and I can play again !!

Awesome , cant wait

Yep if units start dying quickly all of a sudden then either there is a battle or a nuclear bomb went off somewhere in the map. Either way, the player should know !

I like the idea of damadge rate/death rate for battle detection. There does not seem to be any other condtion under which this could happen unless individual soldiers are fighting other individual soldiers over a widely dispersed area and high numbers of soldiers are dying, which is a rather unlikely scenario. Even better if the death rate is higher than a certain value for some time.

But trebuchets are cool :) Yeah, I guess the AI can detect certain events. With the addition of diplomacy, gates, alerts when attacked, capturing / convertng enemy buildings and perhaps cute AI dialog, the game will finally be feature complete as compared to AoK(I mean that as a compliment of course ) Regarding movement of formations, when a formation decides to change the direction of movement, dont you guys think the soldiers at the side move a bit too fast ? They seem to suddenly accelerate then slow down which looks kind of like a truck changing directions By the way do you think stuff like day and night , wind or rain would add to the gameplay ? I remember winds in Sid Meir's Pirates of the Carribean rushing ships along towards the rocks !! Also lighthouses in the night would look cool near sea ports, or fires at the top of towers . Perhaps outposts can use fires to signal over large distances. The lighting effect would be challenging though - using light maps or something. Lit up houses in the night and camp fires would look great. Low visiblity may make some strategies possible that were impossible in AoK

Awesome, I have been building off the SVN regularly and the game has stablized and is so much fun to play now !! Yes, looking forward to gates in the next release too. So I was wondering, how about piecing together a fun learning scenario. I still remember the story based William Wallace scenario in Age of Kings which introduced me to the game. Was an awesome intro that hooked me to AoK for ever !! Maybe a scenario that demontrates essential skills and features. By the way, are trebuchets planned ?

Do I need to rebuild the game also ?

good news , Some progress, game has started but screen is blank, opngl shader errors: I/TelephonyRegistry( 182): notifyServiceState: 1 1 home null null 000000 GPRS CSS not supported -1 -1RoamInd: -1DefRoamInd: -1EmergOnly: true I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onServiceStateChanged-S:1 1 home null null 000000 GPRS CSS not supported -1 -1RoamInd: -1DefRoamInd: -1EmergOnly: true I/ActivityManager( 182): Start proc com.smlds for broadcast com.smlds/.smlBroadcastReceiver: pid=849 uid=10003 gids={3003} D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC V/Mms/DownloadManager( 405): Service state changed: Bundle[mParcelledData.dataSize=648] V/Mms/DownloadManager( 405): roaming ------> false V/Mms/DownloadManager( 405): auto download without roaming -> true V/Mms/DownloadManager( 405): auto download during roaming -> false V/Mms/DownloadManager( 405): mAutoDownload ------> true I/DBG_WSS_DM( 459): [wssTelephonyData.java Line:153] getInstance PHONE_TYPE_GSM I/DBG_WSS_DM( 459): [wssTelephonyData.java Line:153] getInstance PHONE_TYPE_GSM I/SML ( 849): [smlBroadcastReceiver.java Line:165] onReceive [RECEIVER] SML_BROADCAST_SERVICE_STATE_CHANGED I/ActivityManager( 182): No longer want com.android.mms (pid 405): hidden #16 D/BatteryService( 182): update start D/BatteryService( 182): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 182): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:99 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 4192 temperature: 370 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): BAT. S:2 H:2 I/WifiService( 182): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 182): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 0 I/PowerManagerService( 182): Ulight 3->7|0 D/PowerManagerService( 182): setLightBrightness : mButtonLight : 119 D/LightsService( 182): setBrightness 1st : brightness = 119 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 1 I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 0 I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 1 I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 0 I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 1 I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 0 I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 1 D/BatteryService( 182): update start D/BatteryService( 182): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 182): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:99 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 4195 temperature: 370 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): BAT. S:2 H:2 I/WifiService( 182): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 182): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 D/PowerManagerService( 182): onSensorChanged: light value: 1000 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC D/PowerManagerService( 182): onSensorChanged: light value: 6 I/dhcpcd ( 794): renewing lease of 172.16.7.99 D/dhcpcd ( 794): sending DHCP_REQUEST with xid 0xbbf93c14, next in 4.35 seconds D/dhcpcd ( 794): handle_dhcp : started I/dhcpcd ( 794): acknowledged 172.16.7.99 from 172.16.0.1 `soln-sr3696.solutionip.com' I/dhcpcd ( 794): save_listdata 0 : 630710ac D/dhcpcd ( 794): Save list ip address. : 630710ac I/dhcpcd ( 794): leased 172.16.7.99 for 60 seconds D/dhcpcd ( 794): adding IP address 172.16.7.99/21 D/dhcpcd ( 794): adding route to 0.0.0.0/0 via 172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 794): executing `/system/etc/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks', reason RENEW D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : old_ip_address=172.16.7.99 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : old_subnet_cidr=21 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : old_network_number=172.16.0.0 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : old_filename=default.cfg D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : old_server_name=soln-sr3696.solutionip.com D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_subnet_mask=255.255.248.0 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_routers=172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_domain_name_servers=205.171.3.65 205.171.2.65 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_domain_name=solutionip.com D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_broadcast_address=172.16.7.255 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_dhcp_lease_time=60 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_dhcp_message_type=5 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_dhcp_server_identifier=172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_dhcp_renewal_time=30 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_dhcp_rebinding_time=52 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : new_ip_address=172.16.7.99 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : new_subnet_cidr=21 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : new_network_number=172.16.0.0 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : new_filename=default.cfg D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : new_server_name=soln-sr3696.solutionip.com D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_subnet_mask=255.255.248.0 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_routers=172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_domain_name_servers=205.171.3.65 205.171.2.65 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_domain_name=solutionip.com D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_broadcast_address=172.16.7.255 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_dhcp_lease_time=60 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_dhcp_message_type=5 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_dhcp_server_identifier=172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_dhcp_renewal_time=30 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_dhcp_rebinding_time=52 D/dhcpcd ( 794): renew in 30 seconds W/PowerManagerService( 182): Timer 0x7->0x3|0x0 I/PowerManagerService( 182): Ulight 7->3|0 D/PowerManagerService( 182): setLightBrightness : mButtonLight : 0 D/LightsService( 182): setBrightness 1st : brightness = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 0 I/PowerManagerService( 182): Ulight 3->7|0 D/PowerManagerService( 182): setLightBrightness : mButtonLight : 119 D/LightsService( 182): setBrightness 1st : brightness = 119 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 1 I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 0 I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 1 D/BatteryService( 182): update start D/BatteryService( 182): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 182): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:99 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 4182 temperature: 370 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): BAT. S:2 H:2 I/WifiService( 182): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 182): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 1 W/PowerManagerService( 182): Timer 0x7->0x3|0x0 I/PowerManagerService( 182): Ulight 7->3|0 D/PowerManagerService( 182): setLightBrightness : mButtonLight : 0 D/LightsService( 182): setBrightness 1st : brightness = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/BatteryService( 182): update start D/BatteryService( 182): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 182): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:99 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 4202 temperature: 370 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): BAT. S:2 H:2 I/WifiService( 182): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 182): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 D/BatteryService( 182): update start D/BatteryService( 182): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 182): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:99 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 4201 temperature: 370 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/WifiService( 182): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 182): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): BAT. S:2 H:2 D/PowerManagerService( 182): onSensorChanged: light value: 1000 D/PowerManagerService( 182): onSensorChanged: light value: 6 D/BatteryService( 182): update start D/BatteryService( 182): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 182): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:99 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 4205 temperature: 370 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): BAT. S:2 H:2 I/WifiService( 182): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 182): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 0 I/PowerManagerService( 182): Ulight 3->7|0 D/PowerManagerService( 182): setLightBrightness : mButtonLight : 119 D/LightsService( 182): setBrightness 1st : brightness = 119 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 I/InputReader( 182): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 1 I/ActivityManager( 182): Starting: Intent { act=android.intent.action.MAIN cat=[android.intent.category.LAUNCHER] flg=0x10200000 cmp=org.libsdl.app/.SDLActivity } from pid 288 I/Launcher( 288): onPause() I/ActivityManager( 182): Start proc org.libsdl.app for activity org.libsdl.app/.SDLActivity: pid=879 uid=10085 gids={1015, 3003} I/WindowManager( 182): Setting rotation to 1, animFlags=1 I/TvOut-Observer( 182): setTvoutOrientation rotation = 1 E/TvOut-Observer( 182): SetOrientation I/TvOut-Client( 182): SetOrientation + I/TvOut-Client( 182): SetOrientation - I/ActivityManager( 182): Config changed: { scale=1.0 imsi=405/52 loc=en_US touch=3 keys=1/1/2 nav=2/1 orien=2 layout=34 uiMode=17 seq=5 FlipFont=0} E/AutoRotationSettingButton( 262): en I/Launcher( 288): onWindowFocusChanged(false) D/Launcher( 288): It's image wallpaper. suggestDesiredDimensions(-1,-1) I/ApplicationPackageManager( 879): cscCountry is not German : INU D/SensorManager( 879): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 1 D/SensorManager( 879): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 2 D/SensorManager( 879): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 3 D/SensorManager( 879): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 4 D/SensorManager( 879): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 5 D/SensorManager( 879): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 6 D/SensorManager( 879): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 7 D/SensorManager( 879): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 0 V/SDL ( 879): onResume() I/ActivityManager( 182): Displayed org.libsdl.app/.SDLActivity: +178ms V/SDL ( 879): surfaceCreated() E/SensorManager( 879): registerListener :: handle = 1 name= BMA222 Acceleration Sensor delay= 20000 Listener= org.libsdl.app.SDLSurface@40522598 E/SensorManager( 879): =======>>>Sensor Thread RUNNING <<<======== E/SensorManager( 879): reg :: handle = 1 V/SDL ( 879): surfaceChanged() V/SDL ( 879): pixel format RGB_565 V/SDL ( 879): Window size:800x480 W/IInputConnectionWrapper( 288): showStatusIcon on inactive InputConnection I/SDL ( 879): SDL_Android_Init() I/SDL ( 879): SDL_Android_Init() finished! I/pyrogenesis( 879): Started wrapper I/pyrogenesis( 879): Opening library /data/local/libpyrogenesis_dbg.so I/pyrogenesis( 879): Library opened successfully I/pyrogenesis( 879): Launching engine code W/pyrogenesis( 879): Cache: 64 (total: 352) MiB W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| InitVfs: 280.67 ms W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| InitScripting: 17.6697 ms D/BatteryService( 182): update start D/BatteryService( 182): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 182): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:99 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 4180 temperature: 370 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/WifiService( 182): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 182): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): BAT. S:2 H:2 W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| CONFIG_Init: 1.64801 s V/SDL ( 879): Creating new EGL Surface E/libEGL ( 879): eglCreateWindowSurface format=1 I/SDL ( 879): [STUB] GL_SetSwapInterval W/pyrogenesis( 879): WARNING: SDL_SetGamma failed W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| RunHardwareDetection: 15.4419 ms W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| write_sys_info: 1.7395 ms W/pyrogenesis( 879): No SSE available. Slow fallback routines will be used. W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| InitRenderer: 16.6016 ms W/PowerManagerService( 182): Timer 0x7->0x3|0x0 I/PowerManagerService( 182): Ulight 7->3|0 D/PowerManagerService( 182): setLightBrightness : mButtonLight : 0 D/LightsService( 182): setBrightness 1st : brightness = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/BatteryService( 182): update start D/BatteryService( 182): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 182): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:99 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 4186 temperature: 370 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/WifiService( 182): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 182): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): BAT. S:2 H:2 I/dhcpcd ( 794): renewing lease of 172.16.7.99 D/dhcpcd ( 794): sending DHCP_REQUEST with xid 0xb482c418, next in 3.43 seconds D/dhcpcd ( 794): handle_dhcp : started I/dhcpcd ( 794): acknowledged 172.16.7.99 from 172.16.0.1 `soln-sr3696.solutionip.com' I/dhcpcd ( 794): save_listdata 0 : 630710ac D/dhcpcd ( 794): Save list ip address. : 630710ac I/dhcpcd ( 794): leased 172.16.7.99 for 60 seconds D/dhcpcd ( 794): adding IP address 172.16.7.99/21 D/dhcpcd ( 794): adding route to 0.0.0.0/0 via 172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 794): executing `/system/etc/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks', reason RENEW D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : old_ip_address=172.16.7.99 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : old_subnet_cidr=21 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : old_network_number=172.16.0.0 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : old_filename=default.cfg D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : old_server_name=soln-sr3696.solutionip.com D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_subnet_mask=255.255.248.0 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_routers=172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_domain_name_servers=205.171.3.65 205.171.2.65 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_domain_name=solutionip.com D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_broadcast_address=172.16.7.255 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_dhcp_lease_time=60 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_dhcp_message_type=5 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_dhcp_server_identifier=172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_dhcp_renewal_time=30 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : old_dhcp_rebinding_time=52 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : new_ip_address=172.16.7.99 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : new_subnet_cidr=21 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : new_network_number=172.16.0.0 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : new_filename=default.cfg D/dhcpcd ( 794): [yiaddr] : new_server_name=soln-sr3696.solutionip.com D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_subnet_mask=255.255.248.0 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_routers=172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_domain_name_servers=205.171.3.65 205.171.2.65 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_domain_name=solutionip.com D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_broadcast_address=172.16.7.255 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_dhcp_lease_time=60 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_dhcp_message_type=5 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_dhcp_server_identifier=172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_dhcp_renewal_time=30 D/dhcpcd ( 794): [options] : new_dhcp_rebinding_time=52 D/dhcpcd ( 794): renew in 30 seconds D/BatteryService( 182): update start D/BatteryService( 182): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 182): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:99 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 4192 temperature: 370 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/WifiService( 182): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 182): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): BAT. S:2 H:2 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC W/pyrogenesis( 879): GAME STARTED, ALL INIT COMPLETE W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| ps_console: 14.7095 ms W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| ps_lang_hotkeys: 17.1509 ms W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| common/setup.xml: 15.8997 ms W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| common/styles.xml: 946.045 us W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| common/sprite1.xml: 39.917 ms W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| common/icon_sprites.xml: 2.31933 ms W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| common/common_sprites.xml: 50.2014 ms W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| common/common_styles.xml: 5.00488 ms W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| session/sprites.xml: 64.6362 ms W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| session/styles.xml: 3.54004 ms W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| session/session.xml: 934.998 ms W/pyrogenesis( 879): TIMER| common/global.xml: 15.686 ms D/BatteryService( 182): update start D/BatteryService( 182): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 182): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:99 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 4196 temperature: 370 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): BAT. S:2 H:2 I/WifiService( 182): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 182): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC W/pyrogenesis( 879): ERROR: Failed to link program 'shaders/glsl/model_common.vs'+'shaders/glsl/model_common.fs': W/pyrogenesis( 879): --From Fragment Shader: W/pyrogenesis( 879): Symbol sunColor defined with different precision in vertex and fragment shaders. W/pyrogenesis( 879): --From Vertex Shader: W/pyrogenesis( 879): Symbol sunColor defined with different precision in vertex and fragment shaders. W/pyrogenesis( 879): W/pyrogenesis( 879): ERROR: Failed to link program 'shaders/glsl/model_common.vs'+'shaders/glsl/model_common.fs': W/pyrogenesis( 879): --From Fragment Shader: W/pyrogenesis( 879): Symbol sunColor defined with different precision in vertex and fragment shaders. W/pyrogenesis( 879): --From Vertex Shader: W/pyrogenesis( 879): Symbol sunColor defined with different precision in vertex and fragment shaders. W/pyrogenesis( 879): D/BatteryService( 182): update start D/BatteryService( 182): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 182): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:99 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 4188 temperature: 370 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/WifiService( 182): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 182): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): BAT. S:2 H:2 W/pyrogenesis( 879): GL_INVALID_OPERATION W/pyrogenesis( 879): OpenGL error(s) occurred: 0502 W/PowerManagerService( 182): Timer 0x3->0x1|0x0 I/PowerManagerService( 182): Ulight 3->1|0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 I/PowerManagerService( 182): Light Animator Finished curIntValue=20 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC D/BatteryService( 182): update start D/BatteryService( 182): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 182): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:99 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 4197 temperature: 370 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/WifiService( 182): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 182): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): BAT. S:2 H:2 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC W/PowerManagerService( 182): Timer 0x1->0x0|0x0 I/PowerManagerService( 182): Ulight 1->0|0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 I/PowerManagerService( 182): Light Animator Finished curIntValue=0 E/power ( 182): *** set_screen_state 0 E/SensorManager( 182): unregisterListener:: all sensors, listener = com.android.server.PowerManagerService$13@4051eae0 D/PowerManagerService( 182): enableLightSensor false D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 W/PowerManagerService( 182): CurLockF mPS:0 mUS=0 W/PowerManagerService( 182): mPokeLocks.size=0: D/PowerManagerService( 182): sendNotificationLocked on=false D/KeyguardViewMediator( 182): UICORE onScreenTurnedOff(3,false) V/WindowManager( 182): Setting event dispatching to false D/PhoneWindow( 879): couldn't save which view has focus because the focused view org.libsdl.app.SDLSurface@40522598 has no id. V/SDL ( 879): onPause() I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC I/TvOut-Observer( 182): ACTION android.intent.action.SCREEN_OFF I/TvOut-Observer( 182): tvOutSetImageString BroadcastReceiver broadcast received I/TvOut-Observer( 182): ACTION_SCREEN_OFF I/TvOut-Client( 182): isTvoutCableConnected D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/LightsService( 182): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 E/TvOut-Observer( 182): isTvoutCableConnected : false I/TvOut-Observer( 182): updateTVoutOnScreenOnOff tvstatus off isTvoutCableConnected : false D/FastDormancy( 279): [FD] INTENT ACTION android.intent.action.SCREEN_OFF D/FastDormancy( 279): [FD] mIsScreenOn: false I/Launcher( 288): ACTION_SCREEN_OFF V/SettingsProvider( 182): system <- value=1 name=phone_lock_status V/SettingsProvider( 182): property: sys.settings_system_version=7 D/PowerManagerService( 182): setScreenBrightnessMode : mode : 0 D/PowerManagerService( 182): setScreenBrightnessMode : mAutoBrightessEnabled : false enabled = false V/SettingsProvider( 182): notifying: content://settings/system/phone_lock_status D/PowerManagerService( 182): setScreenOffTimeouts mKeylightDelay=3000 mDimDelay=20000 mScreenOffDelay=7000 mDimScreen=true D/InfoAlarmWidgetWeather( 728): onReceive sub Action => android.intent.action.SCREEN_OFF D/InfoAlarmWidgetFinance( 728): onReceive sub Action => android.intent.action.SCREEN_OFF D/InfoAlarmWidgetNews( 728): onReceive sub Action => android.intent.action.SCREEN_OFF D/SntpClient( 182): request time failed: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Try again D/BatteryService( 182): update start D/BatteryService( 182): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 182): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:99 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 4200 temperature: 370 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/WifiService( 182): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 182): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): BAT. S:2 H:2 I/StatusBarPolicy( 262): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 262): updateSignalStrength: No SVC

Is it related to SDL 1.3 multiple windows capabilties that may not be available on my phone ? where is the android log ?

yes by evening for sure ---------------- So I am trying to launch the app : good news, the engine code does get loaded bad news, the app doesnt show the opengl window due to a wierd error : I/ActivityManager( 2370): Starting: Intent { act=android.intent.action.MAIN cat=[android.intent.category.LAUNCHER] flg=0x10200000 cmp=org.libsdl.app/.SDLActivity bnds=[245,234][355,372] } from pid 2472 I/Launcher( 2472): onPause() I/ActivityManager( 2370): Start proc org.libsdl.app for activity org.libsdl.app/.SDLActivity: pid=3152 uid=10085 gids={1015, 3003} I/WindowManager( 2370): Setting rotation to 1, animFlags=1 I/TvOut-Observer( 2370): setTvoutOrientation rotation = 1 E/TvOut-Observer( 2370): SetOrientation I/TvOut-Client( 2370): SetOrientation + I/TvOut-Client( 2370): SetOrientation - I/ActivityManager( 2370): Config changed: { scale=1.0 imsi=405/52 loc=en_US touch=3 keys=1/1/2 nav=2/1 orien=2 layout=34 uiMode=17 seq=11 FlipFont=0} V/Mms/HVGALayoutParameters( 2612): HVGALayoutParameters.<init>(11). I/Launcher( 2472): onWindowFocusChanged(false) I/ApplicationPackageManager( 3152): cscCountry is not German : INU D/SensorManager( 3152): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 1 D/SensorManager( 3152): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 2 D/SensorManager( 3152): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 3 D/SensorManager( 3152): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 4 D/SensorManager( 3152): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 5 D/SensorManager( 3152): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 6 D/SensorManager( 3152): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 7 D/SensorManager( 3152): ====>>>>>Num Sensor: 0 V/SDL ( 3152): onResume() D/Launcher( 2472): It's image wallpaper. suggestDesiredDimensions(-1,-1) I/ActivityManager( 2370): Displayed org.libsdl.app/.SDLActivity: +141ms E/AutoRotationSettingButton( 2446): en V/SDL ( 3152): surfaceCreated() E/SensorManager( 3152): registerListener :: handle = 1 name= BMA222 Acceleration Sensor delay= 20000 Listener= org.libsdl.app.SDLSurface@40522868 E/SensorManager( 3152): =======>>>Sensor Thread RUNNING <<<======== E/SensorManager( 3152): reg :: handle = 1 V/SDL ( 3152): surfaceChanged() V/SDL ( 3152): pixel format RGB_565 V/SDL ( 3152): Window size:800x480 W/IInputConnectionWrapper( 2472): showStatusIcon on inactive InputConnection I/SDL ( 3152): SDL_Android_Init() I/SDL ( 3152): SDL_Android_Init() finished! I/pyrogenesis( 3152): Started wrapper I/pyrogenesis( 3152): Opening library /data/local/libpyrogenesis_dbg.so I/pyrogenesis( 3152): Library opened successfully I/pyrogenesis( 3152): Launching engine code W/pyrogenesis( 3152): Cache: 64 (total: 352) MiB W/pyrogenesis( 3152): TIMER| InitVfs: 1.58691 ms W/pyrogenesis( 3152): TIMER| InitScripting: 8.54492 ms W/pyrogenesis( 3152): TIMER| CONFIG_Init: 1.40961 s D/PowerManagerService( 2370): lightSensorChangedLocked 1st D/PowerManagerService( 2370): lightSensorChangedLocked 1000 D/PowerManagerService( 2370): lightSensorChangedLocked mHighestLightSensorValue = 1000 D/PowerManagerService( 2370): lightSensorChangedLocked mLightSensorValue = 6.0 D/PowerManagerService( 2370): lcdValue 50 D/PowerManagerService( 2370): buttonValue 0 D/PowerManagerService( 2370): keyboardValue 0 D/LightsService( 2370): setBrightness 1st : brightness = 0 D/LightsService( 2370): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/LightsService( 2370): setBrightness 1st : brightness = 0 D/LightsService( 2370): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 D/BatteryService( 2370): update start D/BatteryService( 2370): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 2370): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:75 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 3988 temperature: 420 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/WifiService( 2370): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 2370): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 2446): BAT. S:2 H:2 W/PowerManagerService( 2370): Timer 0x7->0x3|0x0 I/PowerManagerService( 2370): Ulight 7->3|0 D/PowerManagerService( 2370): setLightBrightness : mButtonLight : 0 D/LightsService( 2370): setBrightness 1st : brightness = 0 D/LightsService( 2370): [NF]setLightLocked : brightnessMode = 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 2446): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 2446): updateSignalStrength: No SVC W/libEGL ( 3152): 0: eglInitialize(0x1) failed (EGL_SUCCESS) E/SDL ( 3152): No EGL config available W/pyrogenesis( 3152): ERROR: SetVideoMode failed in SDL_GL_CreateContext: 800x480:32 1 ("Couldn't create OpenGL context - see Android log for details") W/pyrogenesis( 3152): ERROR: SetVideoMode failed in SDL_CreateWindow: 800x480:32 1 ("Android only supports one window") I/DEBUG ( 116): *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** I/DEBUG ( 116): Build fingerprint: 'samsung/GT-I9001/GT-I9001:2.3.4/GINGERBREAD/XXKPE:user/release-keys' I/DEBUG ( 116): pid: 3152, tid: 3161 >>> org.libsdl.app <<< I/DEBUG ( 116): signal 11 (SIGSEGV), code 1 (SEGV_MAPERR), fault addr deadbaad I/DEBUG ( 116): r0 00000027 r1 deadbaad r2 80000000 r3 00000000 I/DEBUG ( 116): r4 00000001 r5 00000000 r6 00000001 r7 afd426d8 I/DEBUG ( 116): r8 47afcb40 r9 479fcfb8 10 479fcfa4 fp aca96310 I/DEBUG ( 116): ip afd46688 sp 47afb908 lr afd19249 pc afd15d14 cpsr 60000030 I/DEBUG ( 116): d0 565f6d6574737953 d1 6c69614665646f6d I/DEBUG ( 116): d2 0000007000000000 d3 0000007200000000 I/DEBUG ( 116): d4 0000007300000074 d5 0000006f00000020 I/DEBUG ( 116): d6 000000650000006e d7 0000007700000020 I/DEBUG ( 116): d8 0000000001312d00 d9 0000000000000000 I/DEBUG ( 116): d10 0000000000000000 d11 0000000000000000 I/DEBUG ( 116): d12 0000000000000000 d13 0000000000000000 I/DEBUG ( 116): d14 0000000000000000 d15 0000000000000000 I/DEBUG ( 116): d16 4011e5080021047f d17 4011e5080021047f I/DEBUG ( 116): d18 41bc3b8764000000 d19 3fe00000001df743 I/DEBUG ( 116): d20 bf641aadca2c925d d21 be5acaf22c836220 I/DEBUG ( 116): d22 3c861b1acd800000 d23 3de5d93a5acfd57c I/DEBUG ( 116): d24 3fc74721cad6b0ed d25 3fc39a09d078c69f I/DEBUG ( 116): d26 0000000000000000 d27 0000000000000000 I/DEBUG ( 116): d28 0000000000000000 d29 3ff0000000000000 I/DEBUG ( 116): d30 0000000000000000 d31 3ff0000000000000 I/DEBUG ( 116): scr 20000012 I/DEBUG ( 116): I/DEBUG ( 116): #00 pc 00015d14 /system/lib/libc.so I/DEBUG ( 116): #01 lr afd19249 /system/lib/libc.so I/DEBUG ( 116): I/DEBUG ( 116): code around pc: I/DEBUG ( 116): afd15cf4 2c006824 e028d1fb b13368db c064f8df I/DEBUG ( 116): afd15d04 44fc2401 4000f8cc 49124798 25002027 I/DEBUG ( 116): afd15d14 f7f57008 2106ec64 edd8f7f6 460aa901 I/DEBUG ( 116): afd15d24 f04f2006 95015380 95029303 e93ef7f6 I/DEBUG ( 116): afd15d34 462aa905 f7f62002 f7f5e94a 2106ec50 I/DEBUG ( 116): I/DEBUG ( 116): code around lr: I/DEBUG ( 116): afd19228 4a0e4b0d e92d447b 589c41f0 26004680 I/DEBUG ( 116): afd19238 686768a5 f9b5e006 b113300c 47c04628 I/DEBUG ( 116): afd19248 35544306 37fff117 6824d5f5 d1ef2c00 I/DEBUG ( 116): afd19258 e8bd4630 bf0081f0 000282f4 ffffff88 I/DEBUG ( 116): afd19268 b086b570 f602fb01 9004460c a804a901 I/DEBUG ( 116): I/DEBUG ( 116): stack: I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb8c8 afd42684 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb8cc 000a04d8 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb8d0 0000002b I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb8d4 afd18311 /system/lib/libc.so I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb8d8 afd42624 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb8dc afd467f8 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb8e0 00000000 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb8e4 afd19249 /system/lib/libc.so I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb8e8 00000001 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb8ec 47afb91c I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb8f0 00000001 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb8f4 afd426d8 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb8f8 47afcb40 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb8fc afd1856b /system/lib/libc.so I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb900 df002777 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb904 e3a070ad I/DEBUG ( 116): #00 47afb908 00000001 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb90c afd1835d /system/lib/libc.so I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb910 0000000a I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb914 afd1c87f /system/lib/libc.so I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb918 afd42630 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb91c fffffbdf I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb920 479fcfb8 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb924 afd42630 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb928 82ab9a24 /data/local/libpyrogenesis_dbg.so I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb92c 811a58d0 /data/data/org.libsdl.app/lib/libSDL2.so I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb930 00629d80 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb934 00000000 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb938 00629dd8 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb93c 00629d80 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb940 82c5b09c I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb944 00629dd8 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb948 47afb978 I/DEBUG ( 116): 47afb94c 811a4dd0 /data/data/org.libsdl.app/lib/libSDL2.so I/BootReceiver( 2370): Copying /data/tombstones/tombstone_08 to DropBox (SYSTEM_TOMBSTONE) I/DEBUG ( 116): dumpstate /data/log/dumpstate_app_native.txt I/StatusBarPolicy( 2446): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 2446): updateSignalStrength: No SVC D/BatteryService( 2370): update start D/BatteryService( 2370): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower I/StatusBarPolicy( 2446): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 2446): updateSignalStrength: No SVC D/VoldCmdListener( 114): asec list I/ActivityManager( 2370): Process org.libsdl.app (pid 3152) has died. I/WindowManager( 2370): WIN DEATH: Window{408bfdc0 org.libsdl.app/org.libsdl.app.SDLActivity paused=false} I/WindowManager( 2370): WIN DEATH: Window{408b5018 SurfaceView paused=false} I/WindowManager( 2370): Setting rotation to 0, animFlags=1 I/TvOut-Observer( 2370): setTvoutOrientation rotation = 0 E/TvOut-Observer( 2370): SetOrientation I/TvOut-Client( 2370): SetOrientation + I/TvOut-Client( 2370): SetOrientation - I/ActivityManager( 2370): Config changed: { scale=1.0 imsi=405/52 loc=en_US touch=3 keys=1/1/2 nav=2/1 orien=1 layout=34 uiMode=17 seq=12 FlipFont=0} V/Mms/HVGALayoutParameters( 2612): HVGALayoutParameters.<init>(11). I/Launcher( 2472): onResume(). mIsNewIntent : false E/ ( 2472): onResume() check 0 E/ ( 2472): onResume() check 1 E/AutoRotationSettingButton( 2446): en E/Launcher( 2472): setWindowOpaque() E/ ( 2472): onResume() check 2, mRestoring : false E/ ( 2472): onResume() check 3 E/ ( 2472): AJESH broadcastStkIntent E/ ( 2472): onResume() check 4 E/ ( 2472): onResume() check 5 I/Launcher( 2472): onResume() ended V/Launcher.Workspace( 2472): onSizeChanged( 480,800,480,762)getWidth() = 480getHeight() = 800 I/Launcher( 2472): onWindowFocusChanged(true) D/Launcher( 2472): It's image wallpaper. suggestDesiredDimensions(-1,-1) I/StatusBarPolicy( 2446): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 2446): updateSignalStrength: No SVC E/Launcher( 2472): setWindowOpaque() I/TelephonyRegistry( 2370): notifyServiceState: 1 1 home null null 310410 UMTS CSS not supported -1 -1RoamInd: -1DefRoamInd: -1EmergOnly: true I/StatusBarPolicy( 2446): onServiceStateChanged-S:1 1 home null null 310410 UMTS CSS not supported -1 -1RoamInd: -1DefRoamInd: -1EmergOnly: true D/StatusBarPolicy( 2446): updateSignalStrength: No SVC I/SML ( 2884): [smlBroadcastReceiver.java Line:165] onReceive [RECEIVER] SML_BROADCAST_SERVICE_STATE_CHANGED V/Mms/DownloadManager( 2612): Service state changed: Bundle[mParcelledData.dataSize=648] I/StatusBarPolicy( 2446): onDataConnectionStateChanged-S:0 T:3 V/Mms/DownloadManager( 2612): roaming ------> false I/StatusBarPolicy( 2446): updateDataNetType-T:3 W/InputManagerService( 2370): Got RemoteException sending setActive(false) notification to pid 3152 uid 10085 I/DBG_WSS_DM( 2648): [wssTelephonyData.java Line:153] getInstance PHONE_TYPE_GSM V/Mms/DownloadManager( 2612): auto download without roaming -> true V/Mms/DownloadManager( 2612): auto download during roaming -> false V/Mms/DownloadManager( 2612): mAutoDownload ------> true I/DBG_WSS_DM( 2648): [wssTelephonyData.java Line:153] getInstance PHONE_TYPE_GSM V/Launcher.Workspace( 2472): onSizeChanged( 480,762,480,800)getWidth() = 480getHeight() = 762 D/BatteryService( 2370): update start D/BatteryService( 2370): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 2370): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:75 scale:100 status:2 health:2 present:true voltage: 4000 temperature: 420 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302213 I/WifiService( 2370): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 2370): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 2446): BAT. S:2 H:2

It was the temp . Man! you are the best remote debugger I have come across !

I am getting a seg fault with the penultimate step abhi@abhivb:~/android/0ad-game$ binaries/system/pyrogenesis -archivebuild=binaries/data/mods/public -archivebuild-output=temp/public.zip -archivebuild-compress Adding binaries/data/mods/public/art/LICENSE.txt Segmentation fault (core dumped) abhi@abhivb:~/android/0ad-game$ Is it possible to generate public.zip on windows, or for someone to post it on the svn ? I suspect it maybe due to me running ubuntu in virtual box, but the game does start up inside ubuntu though its very slow.

the debug.keystore seems to be generated on first build. I am downloading eclipse and installing the ADT and then I ll build one of the sdk samples. That should do it. http://stackoverflow...-android-folder So I created a hello world ap and now I have successfully signed and got 0ad.apk installed on my phone. It doesnt start however because I havent pushed the config stuff and public.zip Onto all that next >>>>

ok we are making progress now. Here is the latest : abhi@abhivb:~/android$ cd 0ad-game/ abhi@abhivb:~/android/0ad-game$ cd build/android/sdl-project/ abhi@abhivb:~/android/0ad-game/build/android/sdl-project$ make /home/abhi/android/android-ndk-r7-crystax-5.beta2/ndk-build make[1]: Entering directory `/home/abhi/android/0ad-game/build/android/sdl-project' Gdbserver : [arm-linux-androideabi-4.6.3] libs/armeabi/gdbserver Gdbsetup : libs/armeabi/gdb.setup Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_assert.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_error.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_fatal.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_hints.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_log.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_audio.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_audiocvt.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_audiodev.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_audiotypecvt.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_mixer.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_wave.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_androidaudio.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_dummyaudio.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_atomic.c Compile arm : SDL2 <= SDL_spinlock.c Compile++ thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_android.cpp Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_cpuinfo.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_clipboardevents.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_dropevents.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_events.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_gesture.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_keyboard.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_mouse.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_quit.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_touch.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_windowevents.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_rwops.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_haptic.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_syshaptic.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_joystick.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_sysjoystick.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_sysloadso.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_power.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_render.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_yuv_mmx.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_yuv_sw.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_render_d3d.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_libgl2D.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_ndsrender.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_render_gles2.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_shaders_gles2.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_render_gles.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_render_gl.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_shaders_gl.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_blendfillrect.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_blendline.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_blendpoint.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_drawline.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_drawpoint.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_render_sw.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_getenv.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_iconv.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_malloc.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_qsort.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_stdlib.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_string.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_thread.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_syscond.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_sysmutex.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_syssem.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_systhread.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_timer.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_systimer.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_blit_0.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_blit_1.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_blit_A.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_blit_auto.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_blit.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_blit_copy.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_blit_N.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_blit_slow.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_bmp.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_clipboard.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_fillrect.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_pixels.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_rect.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_RLEaccel.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_shape.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_stretch.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_surface.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_video.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_androidevents.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_androidgl.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_androidkeyboard.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_androidtouch.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_androidvideo.c Compile thumb : SDL2 <= SDL_androidwindow.c StaticLibrary : libcrystax.a Prebuilt : libcrystax_static.a <= <NDK>/sources/crystax/libs/armeabi/4.6.3/ Prebuilt : libgnustl_static.a <= <NDK>/sources/cxx-stl/gnu-libstdc++/libs/armeabi/4.6.3/ SharedLibrary : libSDL2.so Install : libSDL2.so => libs/armeabi/libSDL2.so Compile++ thumb : main <= SDL_android_main.cpp Compile++ thumb : main <= pyrogenesis_wrapper.cpp SharedLibrary : libmain.so Install : libmain.so => libs/armeabi/libmain.so make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/abhi/android/0ad-game/build/android/sdl-project' mkdir -p lib/armeabi cp libs/armeabi/libmain.so libs/armeabi/libSDL2.so lib/armeabi/ /home/abhi/android/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools/aapt package -f -F bin/0ad.unaligned.apk -M AndroidManifest.xml -S bin/res -S res -I /home/abhi/android/android-sdk-linux/platforms/android-10/android.jar zip bin/0ad.unaligned.apk -j bin/classes.dex adding: classes.dex (deflated 50%) zip bin/0ad.unaligned.apk -r lib adding: lib/ (stored 0%) adding: lib/armeabi/ (stored 0%) adding: lib/armeabi/libSDL2.so (deflated 69%) adding: lib/armeabi/libmain.so (deflated 44%) jarsigner -keystore /home/abhi/.android/debug.keystore -storepass android bin/0ad.unaligned.apk androiddebugkey jarsigner error: java.lang.RuntimeException: keystore load: /home/abhi/.android/debug.keystore (No such file or directory) make: *** [bin/0ad.unaligned.apk] Error 1 abhi@abhivb:~/android/0ad-game/build/android/sdl-project$ ------------------------------------- Hmm well anyway, now if I go into ~/android/0ad-game/build/android/sdl-project and tyoe make I get : abhi@abhivb:~/android/0ad-game/build/android/sdl-project$ make make: Nothing to be done for `all'. abhi@abhivb:~/android/0ad-game/build/android/sdl-project$ So the build did succeed !! I did a make clean and tried make again, again I got the same jarsign error thing. This time I run make after I get the error and I get : zip bin/0ad.unaligned.apk -r lib adding: lib/ (stored 0%) adding: lib/armeabi/ (stored 0%) adding: lib/armeabi/libSDL2.so (deflated 69%) adding: lib/armeabi/libmain.so (deflated 44%) jarsigner -keystore /home/abhi/.android/debug.keystore -storepass android bin/0ad.unaligned.apk androiddebugkey jarsigner error: java.lang.RuntimeException: keystore load: /home/abhi/.android/debug.keystore (No such file or directory) make: *** [bin/0ad.unaligned.apk] Error 1 abhi@abhivb:~/android/0ad-game/build/android/sdl-project$ make /home/abhi/android/android-sdk-linux/tools/zipalign 4 bin/0ad.unaligned.apk bin/0ad.apk abhi@abhivb:~/android/0ad-game/build/android/sdl-project$ Well watever, moving on.... I am now running the ./setup-libs.sh script Perhaps you can add to the wiki that patch, g++ and libxml2-dev also needs to be installed. Default ubuntu 12.04 doesnt have them. sudo apt-get install patch g++ sudo apt-get install libxml2-dev Without libxml2-dev, FCollada build fails. ------------------ Ok, so the build is done and I have pushed to my phone and I try to run 0ad.apk but it says Application Not Installed, without giving any reason. I am looking at adb logcat now but I dont see any clear reason specified. W/ActivityManager( 178): Trying to launch com.android.packageinstaller/.PackageInstallerActivity I/ApplicationPackageManager( 3003): cscCountry is not German : INU I/ActivityManager( 178): Displayed com.android.packageinstaller/.PackageInstallerActivity: +107ms V/[MyFiles]( 2988): AllFile:onStop D/BatteryService( 178): update start D/BatteryService( 178): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower D/BatteryService( 178): [SendIntent]updateBattery level:100 scale:100 status:5 health:2 present:true voltage: 4131 temperature: 330 technology: Li-ion AC powered:false USB powered:true icon:17302191 I/StatusBarPolicy( 258): BAT. S:5 H:2 I/WifiService( 178): pre-persistedWifiState is 1 I/WifiService( 178): isAirplaneModeOn is 0 I/StatusBarPolicy( 258): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 258): updateSignalStrength: No SVC I/dhcpcd ( 427): renewing lease of 172.16.3.228 D/dhcpcd ( 427): sending DHCP_REQUEST with xid 0x62e688bb, next in 4.29 seconds D/dhcpcd ( 427): handle_dhcp : started I/dhcpcd ( 427): acknowledged 172.16.3.228 from 172.16.0.1 `soln-sr3696.solutionip.com' I/dhcpcd ( 427): save_listdata 0 : e40310ac D/dhcpcd ( 427): Save list ip address. : e40310ac I/dhcpcd ( 427): leased 172.16.3.228 for 60 seconds D/dhcpcd ( 427): adding IP address 172.16.3.228/21 D/dhcpcd ( 427): adding route to 0.0.0.0/0 via 172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 427): executing `/system/etc/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks', reason RENEW D/dhcpcd ( 427): [yiaddr] : old_ip_address=172.16.3.228 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [yiaddr] : old_subnet_cidr=21 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [yiaddr] : old_network_number=172.16.0.0 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [yiaddr] : old_filename=default.cfg D/dhcpcd ( 427): [yiaddr] : old_server_name=soln-sr3696.solutionip.com D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : old_subnet_mask=255.255.248.0 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : old_routers=172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : old_domain_name_servers=205.171.3.65 205.171.2.65 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : old_domain_name=solutionip.com D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : old_broadcast_address=172.16.7.255 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : old_dhcp_lease_time=60 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : old_dhcp_message_type=5 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : old_dhcp_server_identifier=172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : old_dhcp_renewal_time=30 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : old_dhcp_rebinding_time=52 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [yiaddr] : new_ip_address=172.16.3.228 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [yiaddr] : new_subnet_cidr=21 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [yiaddr] : new_network_number=172.16.0.0 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [yiaddr] : new_filename=default.cfg D/dhcpcd ( 427): [yiaddr] : new_server_name=soln-sr3696.solutionip.com D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : new_subnet_mask=255.255.248.0 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : new_routers=172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : new_domain_name_servers=205.171.3.65 205.171.2.65 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : new_domain_name=solutionip.com D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : new_broadcast_address=172.16.7.255 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : new_dhcp_lease_time=60 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : new_dhcp_message_type=5 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : new_dhcp_server_identifier=172.16.0.1 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : new_dhcp_renewal_time=30 D/dhcpcd ( 427): [options] : new_dhcp_rebinding_time=52 D/dhcpcd ( 427): renew in 30 seconds I/InputReader( 178): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 0 I/InputReader( 178): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 1 I/ActivityManager( 178): Starting: Intent { dat=file:///mnt/sdcard/0ad.apk cmp=com.android.packageinstaller/.InstallAppProgress (has extras) } from pid 3003 W/ActivityManager( 178): Trying to launch com.android.packageinstaller/.InstallAppProgress I/ApplicationPackageManager( 3003): cscCountry is not German : INU I/ActivityManager( 178): Displayed com.android.packageinstaller/.InstallAppProgress: +80ms D/VoldCmdListener( 114): volume aseced /mnt/sdcard/external_sd D/MountService( 178): getAsecVolumeState :: result = mounted I/DmAppInfo( 178): getApplicationsList found row counts : 0 For Pkg : org.libsdl.app D/VoldCmdListener( 114): volume aseced /mnt/sdcard/external_sd D/MountService( 178): getAsecVolumeState :: result = mounted W/ActivityManager( 178): No content provider found for: D/PackageParser( 178): Scanning package: /data/app/vmdl-1043091474.tmp E/PackageParser( 178): Package org.libsdl.app has no certificates at entry res/layout/main.xml; ignoring! W/ActivityManager( 178): No content provider found for: I/StatusBarPolicy( 258): onSignalStrengthsChanged D/StatusBarPolicy( 258): updateSignalStrength: No SVC I/InputReader( 178): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 0 I/InputReader( 178): dispatchTouch::touch event's action is 1 I/InstallAppProgress( 3003): Finished installing org.libsdl.app D/[MyFiles]( 2988): getCurrentDirectory : /mnt/sdcard D/[MyFiles]( 2988): TextListAdapter.start V/[MyFiles]( 2988): ImageLoader.start() <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< D/BatteryService( 178): update start D/BatteryService( 178): [NF]shutdownIfNoPower How about this line towards the end : E/PackageParser( 178): Package org.libsdl.app has no certificates at entry res/layout/main.xml; ignoring!

ok I am trying to compile the game on my samsung galaxy S plus: model number GTI9001 on Ubuntu 12.04 running inside virtual box. I am following the instructions here : http://trac.wildfire...ndenciesandgame I get an error at this instruction: abhi@abhivb:~/android/0ad-game/build/android/sdl-project/jni/SDL$ cd ../.. abhi@abhivb:~/android/0ad-game/build/android/sdl-project$ make /home/abhi/android/android-ndk-r7-crystax-5.beta2/ndk-build make: /home/abhi/android/android-ndk-r7-crystax-5.beta2/ndk-build: Command not found make: *** [libs/armeabi/libmain.so] Error 127 abhi@abhivb:~/android/0ad-game/build/android/sdl-project$ So I havent reached the Crystax NDK install stage yet, why is make asking for it now ? Am I not building SDL correctly ? I do have SDL cloned properly but I am not sure how to go ahead with building it and in which folder. ---------------------------- Well I went ahead and tried to install the dependencies from this instruction: (Dependency checking is probably broken, so run "make clean" if you need to rebuild after changing stuff.) It got and I guess installed few of the dependencies but then I suddenly got an error : 2012-05-12 22:32:36 (1.07 MB/s) - `libpng-1.5.8.tar.xz' saved [701716/701716] --2012-05-12 22:32:36-- ftp://xmlsoft.org/libxml2/libxml2-2.7.8.tar.gz => `libxml2-2.7.8.tar.gz' Resolving xmlsoft.org (xmlsoft.org)... 176.31.99.103 Connecting to xmlsoft.org (xmlsoft.org)|176.31.99.103|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! ==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done. ==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD (1) /libxml2 ... done. ==> SIZE libxml2-2.7.8.tar.gz ... 4881808 ==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR libxml2-2.7.8.tar.gz ... done. Length: 4881808 (4.7M) (unauthoritative) 100%[===========================================================>] 4,881,808 937K/s in 6.4s 2012-05-12 22:32:45 (742 KB/s) - `libxml2-2.7.8.tar.gz' saved [4881808] ~/android/0ad-game/build/android rm: cannot remove `/home/abhi/android/toolchain-0ad': No such file or directory ./setup-libs.sh: line 68: /home/abhi/android/android-ndk-r7-crystax-5.beta2/build/tools/make-standalone-toolchain.sh: No such file or directory abhi@abhivb:~/android/0ad-game/build/android$ I am familiar with building in Linux, so I think I should be able to complete the steps with a little bit of help regarding the order of things here. Have I messed up my build folder already ?

Ok I have read through the qbot docs and now I am looking at queue-manager.js I am trying to understand this function : QueueManager.prototype.futureNeeds = function(gameState) { // Work out which plans will be executed next using priority and return the total cost of these plans var recurse = function(queues, qm, number, depth){ var needs = new Resources(); var totalPriority = 0; for (var i = 0; i < queues.length; i++){ totalPriority += qm.priorities[queues[i]]; } for (var i = 0; i < queues.length; i++){ var num = Math.round(((qm.priorities[queues[i]]/totalPriority) * number)); if (num < qm.queues[queues[i]].countQueuedUnits()){ var cnt = 0; for ( var j = 0; cnt < num; j++) { cnt += qm.queues[queues[i]].queue[j].number; needs.add(qm.queues[queues[i]].queue[j].getCost()); number -= qm.queues[queues[i]].queue[j].number; } }else{ for ( var j = 0; j < qm.queues[queues[i]].length(); j++) { needs.add(qm.queues[queues[i]].queue[j].getCost()); number -= qm.queues[queues[i]].queue[j].number; } queues.splice(i, 1); i--; } } // Check that more items were selected this call and that there are plans left to be allocated // Also there is a fail-safe max depth if (queues.length > 0 && number > 0 && depth < 20){ needs.add(recurse(queues, qm, number, depth + 1)); } return needs; }; //number of plans to look at var current = this.getAvailableResources(gameState); var futureNum = 20; var queues = []; for (q in this.queues){ queues.push(q); } var needs = recurse(queues, this, futureNum, 0); // Return predicted values minus the current stockpiles along with a base rater for all resources return { "food" : Math.max(needs.food - current.food, 0) + 150, "wood" : Math.max(needs.wood + 15*needs.population - current.wood, 0) + 150, //TODO: read the house cost in case it changes in the future "stone" : Math.max(needs.stone - current.stone, 0) + 50, "metal" : Math.max(needs.metal - current.metal, 0) + 100 }; }; I am able to understand upto : var num = Math.round(((qm.priorities[queues[i]]/totalPriority) * number)); So you are calculating a fraction of number(which I guess is the amount of resources irrelevant of type) , in proportion to the priority, and storing it in the floating point value num. So what is this supposed to refer to : qm.queues[queues[i]].queue[j].getCost() A queue inside a queue ? I mean if all you want is to pick a particular queue, then qm.queues[i] would seem more intuitive. Then to get the cost : qm.queues[i].getCost() But yeah I don't really know the interfaces of the queues or the queue manager yet. I am not able to get my head around the nested for-j loops --------------------- ok so looking further down I see you always pass number as 20 via futureNum so for each queue in the for-loop, you are calculating fractions of 20 and then checking the value against qm.queues[queues].countQueuedUnits() if (num < qm.queues[queues[i]].countQueuedUnits()){ var cnt = 0; for ( var j = 0; cnt < num; j++) { cnt += qm.queues[queues[i]].queue[j].number; needs.add(qm.queues[queues[i]].queue[j].getCost()); number -= qm.queues[queues[i]].queue[j].number; } }else{ for ( var j = 0; j < qm.queues[queues[i]].length(); j++) { needs.add(qm.queues[queues[i]].queue[j].getCost()); number -= qm.queues[queues[i]].queue[j].number; } queues.splice(i, 1); i--; } So you are essentially checking that the queues have the number of queued up units in proportion to their priority ? Also why is there a need to recurse ?

I was looking at queue-manager.js : // Each queue has an account which records the amount of resource it can spend. If no queue has an affordable item // then the amount of resource is increased to all accounts in direct proportion to the priority until an item on one // of the queues becomes affordable. // // A consequence of the system is that a rarely used queue will end up with a very large account. I am unsure if this // is good or bad or neither. So what about checking if a queue has something to build. Do not increase the amount of resources to it in proportion(or whatever other mechanism) if it has nothing to build.

Yes I didnt see any slow downs playing with oasis too. I could not beat qbot either as it kept sending wave after wave. So it did not give up quickly and was somehow managing to find food. Played for an hour yesterday and will continue the game today though I think qbot is trying to wear me down now.

Have you used the Escrow idea from testbot by any chance for sharing resources ? Or is it implemented differently ? TestBotAI.prototype.ShareResources = function(remainingResources, unaffordablePlans) { // Share our remaining resources among the plangroups that need // to accumulate more resources, in proportion to their priorities for each (var type in remainingResources.types) { // Skip resource types where we don't have any spare if (remainingResources[type] <= 0) continue; // Find the plans that require some of this resource type, // and the sum of their priorities var ps = []; var sumPriority = 0; for each (var p in unaffordablePlans) { if (p.plan.getCost()[type] > p.group.getEscrow()[type]) { ps.push(p); sumPriority += p.priority; } } // Avoid divisions-by-zero if (!sumPriority) continue; // Share resources by priority, clamped to the amount the plan actually needs for each (var p in ps) { var amount = Math.floor(remainingResources[type] * p.priority / sumPriority); var max = p.plan.getCost()[type] - p.group.getEscrow()[type]; p.group.getEscrow()[type] += Math.min(max, amount); } } }; just curious.

Full fledged docs..joy!!...will give it a read. By the way do you have an idea as to why qbot doesnt create fields close to its civ center when it runs out of food ?

I am interested in this too. I have begun looking at qbot and testbot. So why do you need the queues : // this.queues cannot be modified past initialisation or queue-manager will break this.queues = { house : new Queue(), citizenSoldier : new Queue(), villager : new Queue(), economicBuilding : new Queue(), field : new Queue(), advancedSoldier : new Queue(), siege : new Queue(), militaryBuilding : new Queue(), defenceBuilding : new Queue(), civilCentre: new Queue() }; this.productionQueues = []; Also in this snippet you are trying to get a list of civ centers which if destroyed will end the game ? That is why they are key resources ? var myKeyEntities = gameState.getOwnEntities().filter(function(ent) { return ent.hasClass("CivCentre"); }); Also have you used Persistent entity collections as in this post ? http://www.wildfiregames.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=15410&view=findpost&p=230498

So is there some particular line in the script which tells qbot to harvest far from the civ center ? I would think that after resources withing a certain radius is exhausted, it will start with fields near the civ center and send out only very few citizens to gather stuff far away. Maybe the fact that most of the villagers are now beyond a certain distance from the village, can be detected. Then 70% of them can be recalled back to work on a field close to the civ center ? Even better when the citizens are unable to find food for the 1st time, then start making fields. I ll get cracking on the qbot script. ------------- so as regards trade, is the restriction of the ai being unable to make markets due to a restriction in the ai API or something absent in the qbot script ?