RoN/Empire Earth Type Mod (From 0A.D. to 21st Century)?

[nightovizard]

I have been playing 0a.d. for some years now, but I never got to look much into the forums. I saw there are some total modifications, such as the addition of Asian civilizations, modern warfare and even ponies lol. But I'm really surprised nobody brought up anything about Empire Earth, and specially Rise of Nations. After all, the territories feature in 0a.d. is very similar to the one seen in RoN.

So I want to know if you people would like this to happen? A total modification for 0a.D. that adds EE and RoN features. In my opinion its been a long time since this type of game was last released, being empire Earth III in 2007 (Though this one was a huge failure). Since then we haven't gotten to enjoy any other release of one of this titles. So, if there are still fans of the series around here, post about your thoughts. Maybe we can encourage the 0a.D. community and moders to try to make a mod of this scale and hopefully succeed. But that depends of this community, if you really want this to happen or not.

So far, civilizations could be:

Americans/USA
Iberians/Spain
British/Great Britain
Romans/Italy
Germans/Germany
French/France
Greeks/Greece
Russians/Russia
Israelites/Israel
Turks/Turkey
Persians/Iran
Egyptians/Egypt
Chinese/China
Koreans/Korea
Japanese/Japan
Hindús/India

A total of 16 factions, which is already quite a lot considering 0a.d. has less. When it comes to Ages:

Classical Age: 0A.D. game setting.
Medieval Age: Fall of the roman empire.
Imperial Age: Early modern warfare age, introduction of gunpowder (guns and cannons).
Industrial Age: The great wars period. Introduction of oil, electricity. First vehicles such as tanks and submarines.
Modern Age: From cold war to today. Atomic energy (nukes).

It would be nice if each faction had historical accuracy, though it should be balanced, so maybe some factions won't be very historically accurate. For example Italy has Legionaries while Greece has Hoplites during classical age. USA has AH-64D Apaches while Germany has Eurocopter tigers in modern age, etc. Each faction would be unique.The other option would be to separate the civilisations into 3 types. West, middle east and far east. These would share units, but would have unique units too. This would be less historical accyrate, but would make thinks simplier and more balanced.
West : USA, Spain, Great Britain, Italy, Germany, France, Greece, Russia.
Middle east: Turkey, Iran, Egypt, Israel.
Far east: China, India, Korea, Japan.

So far I have seen some problems with units like tanks, turrets don't seem to work correctly. But there are always workarounds (For example make turrets static, so you force the entire chassis to face the enemy in order to shoot.). Air units are not a problem either as there is a plane already in the game, but there is still room for improvement. I know how to 3D model and texture, and I have done some maps. But I almost know nothing about the game engine and there is no way I can push all this by myself, so that is why I'm looking if there are people interested on this around the community.

WIP unit list:

I - II- III- IV - V

USA:
The problem of the americans is that it is quite a ''young'' country, I don't know whether they should be Indians on the first ages or like the English as they were a British colony. This would require some discussion.

Indian warrior - Tomahawk warrior - Marines - Marine Riflemen - Infantry
Hunter - Indian Archer - Fusiliers - Machinegun - Heavy machinegun
Spearmen - Lancemen - Pikemen - Antitank Rifle - Antitank Infantry
Light horse - Mounted warrior - Cuirassier - M8 Greyhound - M3 Bradley
Mounted hunter - Heavy horse archer - Carabineer - M4 Sherman - M1A2 Abrams
0 - 0 - 0 - Rangers - Delta force or Navy seals
0 - 0 - 0 - AA - MIM-104 Patriot
0?(ballista/onagre/catapult?) - 0?(Trebuchet?) - 0?(Cannon?) - Artillery - M270 MLRS
0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - Nuclear missile
0 - 0 - 0 - P-51D Mustang - F22 Raptor
0 - 0 - 0 - B17 Flying fortress - B2 spirit
0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - AH-64D Apache Longbow
Bark - Caravel - Man o war - Destroyer - Cruiser
Trireme - Carrack - Bomb ketch - Dreadnought - Battleship
0 - 0 - 0 - USS Enterprise - USS Nimitz
0 - 0 - 0 - F4U Corsair - F-35B Lightning
0 - 0 - 0 - Submarine - Nuclear submarine
Transport ship
Tribesmen - citizen
scout - explorer - mounted explorer - Willys MB - HMMV
Unique units:
0 -0 -0 -0 - A-10 thunderbolt II
Powers:
- First wonder is built instantly.
- All aircraft and carriers are 20% cheaper.
- Ground units upgrades 25% cheaper.
- Technologies are researched 15% faster.
- Receive +2 Wealth for every military production building.

Spain:
TBU

Scutari - Royal Scutari - Marines - Marine Riflemen - Infantry
Archers - Crossbowmen - Fusiliers - Machinegun - Heavy machinegun
Javaliners - Lancemen - Pikemen - Antitank Rifle - Antitank Infantry
Light Horse - Knight - Cuirassier - M8 Greyhound - ASCOD Ulan
Mounted Archer - Mounted hunter - Conquistador - Carabineer - M4 Sherman - Leopard 2E
0 - 0 - 0 - Commando - commando
0 - 0 - 0 - AA - AA
Catapult - Trebuchet - Cannon - Artillery - Artillery
0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - Nuclear missile
0 - 0 - 0 - Fighter - Eurofighter Typhoon
0 - 0 - 0 - Bomber - Large Bomber
0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - Eurocopter Tiger
Bark - Caravel - Man o war - Destroyer - Cruiser
Trireme - Carrack - Bomb ketch - Dreadnought - Battleship
0 - 0 - 0 - aircraft carrier - modern aircraft carrier
0 - 0 - 0 - Fighter/Bomber - Harrier
0 - 0 - 0 - Submarine - Nuclear submarine
Transport ship
Tribesmen - citizen
scout - explorer - mounted explorer - Jeep - LMV Lynx
Unique units:
0 -0 -0 -0 - LHD Juan Carlos I (Can produce Eurocopter tigers)
Powers:
- The map begins revealed and you start with an extra scout.
- Scout upgrades are free.
- Water units upgrades are 25% cheaper.
- City centers are 30% cheaper.

Great Britain
TBU

Warrior - Warrior - Marines - Marine Riflemen - Infantry
Hunter - Indian Archer - Fusiliers - Machinegun - Heavy machinegun
Spearmen - Lancemen - Pikemen - Antitank Rifle - Antitank Infantry
Light horse - Mounted warrior - Cuirassier - M8 Greyhound - M3 Bradley
Mounted hunter - Heavy horse archer - Carabineer - M4 Sherman - M1A2 Abrams
0 - 0 - 0 - Rangers - Delta force or Navy seals
0 - 0 - 0 - AA - MIM-104 Patriot
0?(ballista/onagre/catapult?) - 0?(Trebuchet?) - 0?(Cannon?) - Artillery - M270 MLRS
0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - Nuclear missile
0 - 0 - 0 - P-51D Mustang - F22 Raptor
0 - 0 - 0 - B17 Flying fortress - B2 spirit
0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - AH-64D Apache Longbow
Bark - Caravel - Man o war - Destroyer - Cruiser
Trireme - Carrack - Bomb ketch - Dreadnought - Battleship
0 - 0 - 0 - USS Enterprise - USS Nimitz
0 - 0 - 0 - F4U Corsair - F-35B Lightning
0 - 0 - 0 - Submarine - Nuclear submarine
Transport ship
Tribesmen - citizen
scout - explorer - mounted explorer - Willys MB - HMMV
Unique units:
0
Powers:

- Double income from taxation.

- 25% more resources from commerce.

- Archer upgrades are free. Archers have +1 attack damage and increased HP.

- All naval units created 33% faster.

- Static defenses have +2 longer range, are 25% cheaper and are built 33% faster.

Italy

TBU

Unique units

0

Powers:

- All military production buildings are 25% cheaper.

- Barracks are built 50% faster.

- Infantry units are 10% cheaper and are created 10% faster.

- First technology to research is free. (With exceptions)

- Additional income of +10 wealth for each city center.

Germany

TBU

Powers:

- Production upgrades are 50% cheaper.

- 5% additional resource gather of the base resource gather. (for example: Base income of 100 wealth + 5% = 105)

- Submarines are 25% cheaper and built 33% faster.

- Air units are created 33% faster.

- Researching the Industrial age is 15% cheaper.

France

TBU

Unique units

Supply unit (Heals nearby units)

Powers:

- First lumber mill is free, and its upgrades are free.

- Resource type buildings are built 10% faster.

- Siege units are created 25% cheaper and 25% faster. They also move 20% faster.

- Cavalry units have +1 attack and increased HP. Cavalry upgrades are 15% cheaper.

Greece

TBU

Unique units

0

Powers:

- Technology Researchs are 10% cheaper and 100% faster. (With exceptions)

- Buildings related to research are 66% cheaper.

- Ports are 33% cheaper.

Russia

TBU

Unique units

0

Powers:

- Enemy units inside your territory get extra damage. Enemies that die inside your territory give resources from plunder.

- Territory borders extend by +1 extra.

- Static defense upgrades are researched immediately and for free.

- The second city center you build is 50% cheaper.

- Cavalry units do extra 25% damage to siege units.

- +20% oil gather rate.

Israel

TBU

Unique units

0

Powers:

- Buildings have 25% more HP

- When your units are killed you get a 25% refund.

- Static defenses fire extra projectiles.

- The first market you build is free.

- Each citizen gives +1 extra wealth.

- All units heal themselves when they don't move and are inside you territory.

- Modern age research is 15% cheaper.

Turkey

TBU

Powers:

- Siege units have +3 range.

- siege units are upgraded for free.

- citizens are 33% cheaper.

- Military researchs are 33% cheaper.

- Infantry has +1 damage.

- Cavalry and siege weapons have a 10% damage bonus against buildings.

Iran

TBU

Powers:

- Start with 50% bonus food.

- Taxation upgrades are free.

- Research are 30% cheaper.

- +33% oil gather rate.

Egypt

TBU

Powers:

- First granary is free. Its upgrades are free and researched instantly.

- Farms generate +3 wealth and are 33% cheaper.

- Wonders cost 25% less.

- Buildings are built 15% faster.

- citizens move 5% faster.

China

TBU

Powers:

- Start with 5 extra citizens.

- Citizens are 33% Cheaper.

- 25% extra population limit.

- All technologies are 25% cheaper and 15% faster to research

Korea

TBU

Powers:

- First temple for free. Religion upgrades for free.

- The first 3 citizens of every city center are free.

- Citizens repair buildings 50% faster.

- Static defenses are 33% cheaper and have 15% more HP.

- Archer units have +1 HP and +1 armor.

Japan

TBU

Powers:

- Barrack units created 7% cheaper and 10% faster for each age.

- Barrack units do 5% extra damage vs buildings for each age.

- Naval units are 10% cheaper and aircraft carriers are created 33% faster.

- Air units upgrades are 25% cheaper.

- Farms are 50% cheaper.

- Farms and fishermen produce 25% more resources.

- Melee units deal +1 damage and have +1 armor.

India

TBU

Powers:

- War elephant upgrades are free. War elephants are 15% cheaper.

- Get 25% extra wealth from everything you sell in the market.

- Merchant units are 15% cheaper and are recruited 25% faster.

- +3 extra wealth income for each merchant unit.

- Citizens have 15% more HP.

Edited June 17, 2015 by nightovizard

[Itms]

Rogue Republic started as a modern warfare mod for 0 A.D. but they decided to develop on their own at some point. But this is definitely possible to do that with our engine

All the best for this project, we're looking forward to your contributions!

[sanderd17]

Air units are a bit of a problem, as they will always target the footprint when attacking (and hitting the footprint will count as a hit). Turrets would be easier to support in the current state. Though there are different forms of turrets, on different sorts of entities. That makes it a bit hard to implement correctly.

Note that there is a ticket open which describes the current problems with turrets, and solutions to some of those: http://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/2577 (it should be possible to get turrets working for the biggest part using scripts only).

[niektb]

@Itms: apparently the Rogue team split up (though the comments from some ex-member, which pointed that out, have been removed).

There have been ideas about Empire Earth like: http://wildfiregames.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19573 but nothing too serious indeed. Unfortunately the modding community is anything but big atm , so it would be best if you somehow would be able to attract contributors from outside the wfg community