Eilat Posted Friday at 10:08 Report Share Posted Friday at 10:08 I think it would be more interesting if we created AI bots with different mindsets and behaviors instead of just allowing Petra of varying levels to participate in battles. Here's a bot I created based on Petra but with a defensive focus, called Iron Tortoise. It defeats Petra in every battle with its unlimited population and abundant resources. Besides that, I think there should be separate bots with behaviors of nomadic civilizations, maritime civilizations, and possibly more. Everyone is welcome to try them out and give feedback. I'd love to hear your opinions. bot_IronTortoise.zip 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted Friday at 10:10 Author Report Share Posted Friday at 10:10 This bot's economic indicators are quite good when facing Petra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted Friday at 10:27 Author Report Share Posted Friday at 10:27 The city of Han was built by Iron Tortoise (emerald green) and Petra (yellow). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted Friday at 10:29 Author Report Share Posted Friday at 10:29 some match statistics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perzival12 Posted Friday at 17:42 Report Share Posted Friday at 17:42 This is pretty cool. Did you base this off of the A27 Petra or the R28 Petra? (with the amount of new bots on this forum, I’m thinking about compiling a mega bot pack.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted Saturday at 02:33 Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:33 7 hours ago, Perzival12 said: Did you base this off of the A27 Petra or the R28 Petra? It's A27's Petra (actually, it's someone else's Petra Expert, but I found the Petra Expert's attacks too constant and not strong enough, so I decided to reverse the style to a defensive counter attack. Iron Tortoise rarely brings troops into enemy territory, but when it does, it's devastating. Because of this difference, I separated it into a separate bot. In addition, I also created a bot with similar economic power to Iron Tortoise called Economy Master). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted Saturday at 02:36 Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:36 8 hours ago, Perzival12 said: with the amount of new bots on this forum, I’m thinking about compiling a mega bot pack That's also what I want, bots with different styles will make the game more interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perzival12 Posted Saturday at 02:42 Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:42 8 minutes ago, Eilat said: It's A27's Petra (actually, it's someone else's Petra Expert, but I found the Petra Expert's attacks too constant and not strong enough, so I decided to reverse the style to a defensive counter attack. Iron Tortoise rarely brings troops into enemy territory, but when it does, it's devastating. Because of this difference, I separated it into a separate bot. In addition, I also created a bot with similar economic power to Iron Tortoise called Economy Master). Post Eco Master and I’ll include it in my Bot Pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted Saturday at 04:16 Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 04:16 1 hour ago, Perzival12 said: Post Eco Master and I’ll include it in my Bot Pack. Try it and let me know what you think bot_EconomyMaster_v2.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted Saturday at 04:18 Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 04:18 1 hour ago, Perzival12 said: Post Eco Master and I’ll include it in my Bot Pack. Here are some of Eco Master's stats when battling Petra. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted Saturday at 11:42 Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:42 The population has surpassed 1800 by the Iron Tortoise bot, the highest I've ever seen. The match isn't over yet, and the population continues to grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted 18 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 18 hours ago I'm delighted to introduce the newest bot in my series of AI bots, the Protectorate bot. This bot represents a breakthrough in gameplay compared to the previous two, redefining alliance relationships. To play this bot, you need at least two players on the same team, both controlled by Protectorate. The player with the smaller ID will play the role of the "Empire," and the other players will be "vassals" (for example, if players 1, 2, and 3 are on the same team, player 1 will be the Empire, and players 2 and 3 will be the vassals). The Empire will prioritize military strength and trade, while the vassals will prioritize workers and pay 30% of their resources every 60 seconds to the Empire. This payment is waived if the vassal's resources are less than 20% of the Empire's resources and increases to 40% when the Empire launches an attack. The empire would also station troops in vassal states, with the number depending on the actual situation (this only happened when the empire's population exceeded 100). bot_Protectorate_1.zip 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted 18 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 18 hours ago Below are some statistics from a 2v2 match with 2 Protectorate bots vs. 2 Petra bots (Team 1 is Protectorate and Team 4 is Petra, unlimited population and average resources). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Has anyone ever defeated Iron Tortoise or Economy Master? What do you think of them as formidable opponents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Another 3v3 match (3 Protectorate vs 3 Petra, Civ: Han, Liu Yi as Empire, Liu Zhuang and Liu Bao as vassals) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Does Protectorate work on r28? Has anyone tried it? Please give me an answer. If it works, I will just fix Iron Tortoise and Economy Master by changing the dependency from 0ad 0.27.0 to 0ad, or if your machine has an IDE, just open the mod json file and edit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapothei Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Had to use community mod's skeleton to be able to detect this mod in linux. Version 27.1, Took a break from 0AD, First game as Han in the map Ardennes Forest, I've beaten Iron Turtoise Very Hard(Mauryan-Random Behavior), around min 24 and I was max pop at min 20, there was some attack but its nothing compared to vanilla VH Petra. I've checked the replay and well... it had 15k food with little to no other resources(5-10 workers work on this) once reach T2 at min 10 and because of that its population was stunted at 81 because not enough resources or simply because the harrasment was not supposed to be and that from there I just stopped their economy like that. My recommendation, use civilians to mine stone and metal only to the max of 24 in batch of 3, because thats what I do as it only requires food. I'll go play more samples of 4 more and I'll edit this later, respond once I complete it. 2nd game complete, I still hate to chase villagers from Expert Petra's mechanic, makes the game last longer then it needs to be. map Cantabrian Highlands, end game min 25, no further comment. Edited 12 minutes ago by Tapothei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted 42 minutes ago Author Report Share Posted 42 minutes ago 24 minutes ago, Tapothei said: around min 24 and I was max pop at min 20 Is that the population of the Iron Tortoise or your population? How much is it? Do you have unlimited population mode set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted 37 minutes ago Author Report Share Posted 37 minutes ago 28 minutes ago, Tapothei said: Random Behavior 30 minutes ago, Tapothei said: Had to use community mod's skeleton to be able to detect this mod in linux. Version 27.1, Took a break from 0AD, First game as Han in the map Ardennes Forest, I've beaten Iron Turtoise Very Hard(Mauryan-Random Behavior), around min 24 and I was max pop at min 20, there was some attack but its nothing compared to vanilla VH Petra. I've checked the replay and well... it had 15k food with little to no other resources(5-10 workers work on this) once reach T2 at min 10 and because of that its population was stunted at 81 because not enough resources or simply because the harrasment was not supposed to be and that from there I just stopped their economy like that. My recommendation, use civilians to mine stone and metal only to the max of 24 in batch of 3, because thats what I do as it only requires food. I'll go play more samples of 4 more and I'll edit this later, respond once I complete it. Perhaps it's my oversight, but I only tested it in aggressive mode and it never failed against Petra. Furthermore, the main purpose of this bot is defensive counter-attack, so it will limit its attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted 33 minutes ago Author Report Share Posted 33 minutes ago 34 minutes ago, Tapothei said: Had to use community mod's skeleton to be able to detect this mod in linux. Version 27.1, Took a break from 0AD, First game as Han in the map Ardennes Forest, I've beaten Iron Turtoise Very Hard(Mauryan-Random Behavior), around min 24 and I was max pop at min 20, there was some attack but its nothing compared to vanilla VH Petra. I've checked the replay and well... it had 15k food with little to no other resources(5-10 workers work on this) once reach T2 at min 10 and because of that its population was stunted at 81 because not enough resources or simply because the harrasment was not supposed to be and that from there I just stopped their economy like that. My recommendation, use civilians to mine stone and metal only to the max of 24 in batch of 3, because thats what I do as it only requires food. I'll go play more samples of 4 more and I'll edit this later, respond once I complete it. If you have time, please try the other two bots. I'd love to hear more feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eilat Posted 28 minutes ago Author Report Share Posted 28 minutes ago 40 minutes ago, Tapothei said: Had to use community mod's skeleton to be able to detect this mod in linux. Version 27.1, Took a break from 0AD, First game as Han in the map Ardennes Forest, I've beaten Iron Turtoise Very Hard(Mauryan-Random Behavior), around min 24 and I was max pop at min 20, there was some attack but its nothing compared to vanilla VH Petra. I've checked the replay and well... it had 15k food with little to no other resources(5-10 workers work on this) once reach T2 at min 10 and because of that its population was stunted at 81 because not enough resources or simply because the harrasment was not supposed to be and that from there I just stopped their economy like that. My recommendation, use civilians to mine stone and metal only to the max of 24 in batch of 3, because thats what I do as it only requires food. I'll go play more samples of 4 more and I'll edit this later, respond once I complete it. In addition, have any other errors been reported? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapothei Posted 19 minutes ago Report Share Posted 19 minutes ago (edited) @EilatI'd advice when you want to talk with someone's comment in succession just edit your comment so it doesn't clutter much, I'll respond later with this comment. Edited 16 minutes ago by Tapothei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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