better physics in 0 A.D.

[DGMurdockIII]

I dont see any reason why there cant be more realistic Physics in 0 A.D. like Age of Empire 3 has or even Company of Heroes has

http://www.digitalrune.com/Support/Blog/ta...gines-List.aspx

http://www.ebonyfortress.com/blog/free-gam...ment-libraries/

[Ykkrosh]

What parts do you think it should be used for?

There are technical reasons why it's quite difficult to have complex physics that affects gameplay (our multiplayer system relies on deterministic computation but physics libraries usually rely on floating-point). In AoE3 it was purely a graphical effect; I think CoH may have been the same but can't remember it well. So we could probably do some kind of ragdoll death animations, with a bit of effort to set up the skeleton data files to support that. AoE3 also had destructible buildings, which are hard because they require a load of artist effort to split the building into dozens of tiny fragments, and I don't think we have the resources to spend on that, and we don't have lots of cannons that would make buildings frequently break apart like that. Are there other things we could use physics for?

[WhiteTreePaladin]

A horse charge into infantry knocking them over (but that's probably just graphical as well)

[DGMurdockIII]

A horse charge into infantry knocking them over (but that's probably just graphical as well)

that a good idea what ab out other combat stuff and not just combat stuff what about when they are cutting down trees

Edited August 18, 2010 by DGMurdockIII

[DGMurdockIII]

A horse charge into infantry knocking them over (but that's probably just graphical as well)

good idea

[WhiteTreePaladin]

that a good idea what ab out other combat stuff and not just combat stuff what about when they are cutting down trees

I'm hoping we can have trees fall over without using a physics engine. (Although if we had a physics engine, I imagine we would use it for that also.)

[Mythos_Ruler]

Perhaps trees can "fall over" in a similar method that buildings fall through the terrain grid when destroyed.

A horse charge into infantry knocking them over (but that's probably just graphical as well)

It would be graphical, but would also perhaps stun the knocked-units for a brief period.

[DGMurdockIII]

the tree idea is a good Idea can could be useful for even choping down the tress

[DGMurdockIII]

what about support for physx?

http://developer.nvidia.com/object/physx.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhysX

[Alpha of the Eagles]

PhysX isn't OpenSource even though it's freeware.

[Arthur_D]

Good point, Alpha.

[DGMurdockIII]

then use http://bulletphysics.org/

[Vingauld]

Trees fell over in AOM, you don't need a physics engine for it, although a physics engine mmight improve a few minor things (In AOM the trees can fall into higer ground I believe)

[Mythos_Ruler]

right, a physics engine in that case would only affect the graphics rather than the simulation.

[AuroN2]

Sometimes graphical things can enhance gameplay - though only sometimes, sometimes games are more fun when they enhance the fact they got @#$% graphics (Like the old games, that abused their bad graphics XD)

[DGMurdockIII]

in AOE 3 there where physics look other RTS games there are physics

[Mythos_Ruler]

in AOE 3 there where physics look other RTS games there are physics

Yes, I would like to see things like rolling catapult rocks and bouncing scorpion bolts and units falling dead correctly (hitting objects as they fall, rolling down hill, etc.). But these would only be graphical things and wouldn't affect actual gameplay. Even things like trampling could be achieved without a physics engine.

[DGMurdockIII]

but physics would let you do more stuff you you could not do with just graphics