Justinian Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 I figure that with the 0AD release feeling so imminent I'd post this.My first Ideas:Have the Byzantines as a seperate phase transition for those Roman players out thereWalkable walls. No Seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 I agree with the first one, the second one I would support, but is it possible and will people use walls enough for it to be worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apomonomenos Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Byzantines were not Romans, but Greeks who wanted to stay in the Roman Empire. Plus, that would be outside of 500 A.D., so it won't be likely.I think that the crew is thinking about walkable walls, I would strongly support that idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Byzantines were not Romans, but Greeks who wanted to stay in the Roman Empire. Plus, that would be outside of 500 A.D., so it won't be likely.Byzantines were the eastern portion of the Roman Empire when the Western half collapsed. If I remember my history from quite a few years ago correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apomonomenos Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 The Eastern Part was in Greece, and if the Greeks didn't want the Romans I'm sure there would've been battles before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian Posted June 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 No this dates back to when Diocletian decided that the Empire was too big, so he split it in two with Western Rome centered on... Rome (later Trier and several other "cities") to be ruled by ?Galicius? and the Eastern Half to be centered on Byzantium (later renamed Constantinople) which was to be ruled by Diocletian Himself.Constantine (The Great), became Emperor of Both, but when he died it split again.Walking on walls is possible but it took awhile for the Dev team to figure out how, and by the time they had it would take too long to implement, it does make for Epic Defenses though.My next suggestion is: Bigger Pop Caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apomonomenos Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) Rome fell at around ?478? AD, so for those ?22? years is probably not going to make a difference for a century of those other guys.I give a to you're next one, except for the first part Edited June 28, 2008 by Alexthegod5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurin Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 The Germanic Tribes, Franks, Saxons, VandelsThe HunsThe Goths, Visgoths, Ostrogoths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian Posted June 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Once More With Passion:THE ROMAN EMPIRE SPLIT WITH TWO COMPLETELY SEPERATE HEADS OF STATE IN AD395.That is why I am personally in favour of having splitting civ's.Rome cann (East and West)Goths can (Ostrogoths and Visigoths)Germanics can (Saxons, Frisians, the list goes on)I'm sure that others can do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Eastern Rome and Western Rome will be two completely different factions. I can't really say much about Part 2, but I can say that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian Posted June 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Well at least we are getting feedback from the devs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julius1 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 ya i still hope we have walkable walls tho!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 That's something currently on the "Backburner" list - things we'd like to implement, but probably won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julius1 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 dang.but do you think it will be in part 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeros Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Thats why its on the backburner list Some things are much much much more easily said than done though. Theres reasons why you haven't seen that in RTS games, and its not because people haven't thought of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEmjeR Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 there is just a topic about walkeble walls:http://www.wildfiregames.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=11755the romans around 0ad are ruling about the whole Mediterranean sea before that they where just upcoming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apomonomenos Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) there is just a topic about walkeble walls:http://www.wildfiregames.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=11755the romans around 0ad are ruling about the whole Mediterranean sea before that they where just upcomingSo it's OK to mix threads? I got banned from the last forum for mixing threads.Thats why its on the backburner list Some things are much much much more easily said than done though. Theres reasons why you haven't seen that in RTS games, and its not because people haven't thought of it.How about you just make the game, talk about those "Backburner" ideas, take out the ones that won't work and add the others as patches. Edited June 28, 2008 by Alexthegod5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) 0 A.D. Part II? Sounds great.My Suggested Civilisation List-Africans-Arabs-Babylonians-Egyptians-Gaels (Celts with a raider navy)-Galatians-Germans (including Scandinavians)-Huns-Jews-Phoenicians-Picts (Celts of Caledonia, the naked blue ones)-Slavs-Scythians-Turks (Turkic people in general)*Of these I think the Egyptians, Germans and Huns are the most important Edited June 28, 2008 by Fionn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Part II is after AD 1. Part I is before 1 BC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apomonomenos Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Africans pretty much falls under Egyptians, Persians, and Iberians. Gauls (which u misspelled) are the same thing as Germans. I don't think that Jews would be a civ, because that is a religion, not a race or tribe. The Arabs came after the Romans, and so did the Turks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) Africans pretty much falls under Egyptians, Persians, and Iberians. Gauls (which u misspelled) are the same thing as Germans. I don't think that Jews would be a civ, because that is a religion, not a race or tribe. The Arabs came after the Romans, and so did the Turks.First off, I mean the black Africans, such as the Nubians (the Persians have little to do with Africa besides holding Egypt for a little). Second off, I said the Gaels (known as the Scoti in Latin). The Gauls were Celts like the Gaels, Britons, Picts, and Galations (who I am adding to the list). Their is a Jewish ethnicity, and the story of Hanukkah comes from the Jewish war with the Greeks. There were always Arabs, and there were always Turks. The Persians have been battling Arabs long before Muhammad's rise to power. The Turks have been raiding Greek, Chinese and Persians alike for centuries (before Turkey and Islam). Edited June 28, 2008 by Fionn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEmjeR Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 read this:http://wildfiregames.com/0ad/page.php?c=46u forgot the romans in ur list!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 read this:http://wildfiregames.com/0ad/page.php?c=46u forgot the romans in ur list!!Ha I forgot about that one. But then again it's kind of a given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian Posted June 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 (edited) 0 A.D. Part II? Sounds great.My Suggested Civilisation List-Africans-Arabs-Babylonians-Egyptians-Gaels (Celts with a raider navy)-Galatians-Germans (including Scandinavians)-Huns-Jews-Phoenicians-Picts (Celts of Caledonia, the naked blue ones)-Slavs-Scythians-Turks (Turkic people in general)*Of these I think the Egyptians, Germans and Huns are the most importantThis looks so much more like a list for a Bronze Age mod. Part 2 is based from AD1 to AD500. Also, try narrowing your field here as so far 0AD comprises of mostly European Races/Tribes.0AD pt.II is the Romanized version and they've heavily hinted (if not declared) that there will be TWO Roman FactionsA better list would be:Western RomaniiEastern RhomiaonGoths (if its Ostro or Visi, who cares)Saxons (Sachsens)Frisians?Berber Tribes?And other notable "barbarorum"Oops, almost forgot the Angles. Edited June 29, 2008 by Scipii_Alemanus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Take this with a grain of salt, because I am a developer, but (!!!!) if I had my way (!!!) the faction list would look like this... Imperial Romans - "Western" Romans during the 1st and 2nd centuries. These are the Pax Pomana Romans, from Augustus to Marcus Aurelius. Eastern Romans - "Late" and "Early Byzantines"-style Romans of the late empire. Lots of chain mail. Round shields. Long swords. Medieval looking. Dacians - A Thracian-style faction with Germanic and Sarmatian infuences. Had 3 important wars against Roman, finally succumbing to the Romans under Trajan. Huns - Nomadic, buildings are either mobile (like the Norse "resource cart" from AOM) or can pack up and move (like the "trebuchet" from Age of Kings). They also gain a lot from looting. Highly mobile and cavalry-based. Parthians - Part 2's desert faction. Cavalry based. Lots of raiding. Lots of archery. Germanics - They'll have many sub-factions to choose from. Ostrogoths, Visigoths, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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