Paal_101 Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Popping in to tell you that another article is up in the history section on the 0 AD site, the second in a series on the great battles of the 0 AD civs. This one focuses on the Hellenes and great battles like Marathon, Guagamela, and Plataea. Hope you guys like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Giant Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Nice article, Paul. I enjoyed reading it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-T Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 Nice Article Paul, although it would be insteresting to see the numbers (especially these suggested by Herodotus) to show how much of an underdog Greek were.The army Xerxes brought to Greece with him numbered @ 1.300.000. (H) Which greatly ounumbered Greeks, and during battle of Salamis Persian fleet (Greatly reduced by storms and previous engagements) still outnumbered Greek almost 2 to 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paal_101 Posted June 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 Thanks guys Now that you mention it, I didn't touch on numbers Funny thing is the Herodotus numbers are impressive but hardly reasonable. The accepted number today is no higher than 300,000 in the extreme, with 200,000 being more likely. In fact there is good evidence that the Greeks out-numbered the Persians at Plataea, since Xerxes had taken many of his troops home with him. I've read stuff that says the Persians were possibly as "few" as 45,000 at that battle. But 70,000 seems to be the concensus vs 100,000+ Greeks. But in any case, the Greeks were an impressive army to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Great article Paul. Nice read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtowns Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 That was great article.... i aspecially liked the Hellenes, dont know why but there just cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Yes, the Hellenes are pretty cool... lots better than those dirty Romans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paal_101 Posted July 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 @ downtowns - Thanks man I had fun writing it@ Mike - Dirty? Who do you think built those big baths? One day you Hellenphiles shall awaken to the light of Rome and see the true glory of the Empire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argalius Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Yes, the Hellenes are pretty cool... lots better than those dirty Romans! Yeah, the Romans just copied everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paal_101 Posted July 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Yeah, but why go through all the work of inventing when othe civs have invented all this cool tech and all you have to do is take it and modify it? That seems imminently smarter than reinventing the wheel so to speak Plus who had the best army until Napoleon? Ah I like Greeks too, but Romans simply rule! 0 AD will prove this, literally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Giant Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 One day you Hellenphiles shall awaken to the light of Rome and see the true glory of the Empire! Historically: On 22nd June 168 B.C., where Greece lost the battle of Pydna, at the bottom of Mount Olympus to four Roman legions (Rome only lost 200 men in this, battle BTW, but Greece lost nearly all of its Phalanx - likely more than 20 000 men).And regarding Romans copying "everything": I can't remember having seen the fighting style of the roman army anywhere before... they did copy things, but the combined them in a way that made them superior - so, they improved things.Also, I can't remember Greece having an empire that lasted 1,200 years and covered all Europe (the empire of Napoleon didn't even last 100 years, BTW)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paal_101 Posted July 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 I've heard some guys try to equate the Iberian's combat system to the Romans but I don't know anything about it. As far as I know, the manipular formation is Roman Plus if you tack the Byzantine Empire onto the Romans its getting aweful close to 2000 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Giant Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 Plus if you tack the Byzantine Empire onto the Romans its getting aweful close to 2000 years Close ? The Byzantine Empire ended in 1435 A.D., and the foundation of Rome is set to 753 B.C. (that's what the legend says), or historically to the 8th century B.C. - that's about 2188 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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