Abadu Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) Here are my ideas for this faction(Take a look at early levels specially,since they where harder for me):-Level one-Early saxons-Fyrd spearmanLink-GesithaLink-HeortgeneatLinkLink-RíderasLink-Warband swordsmanLink-Liðeremennlink-Level two-Latter saxons/Anglo-Danes-Anglo danish archerLink-English heavy cavalryLinkLink-HuskarlLink-ThegnLinkLink-FyrdLink-Saxon swordsmanLink-Level three-Norman conquest/Early feudal England-Norman cavalryLinkLink-Norman infantryLinkLink-CrossbowmanLink-SpearmanLink-KnightLink-Breton light cavalryLink-Welsh longbowmanLink-Level four-100 years war/war of the roses England-Dismounted man at armsLink-KnightLink-Dismounted knightLink-BillmenLinkLink-LongbowmanLink-Border reiverLink-Man at armsLink-CrossbowmanLinkWhat do you think? Edited May 29, 2007 by Abadu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belisarivs Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 It would be cool to regard each era as appropriate.For example 1st era was in name of Saxon colonisation. They didn't have extraordinary units. Goodin general, but not extraordinary.Second era would be that of time of conflict with Vikings. Huscarle fits there well.Third of Norman conquest and last of 100 years war.I'd give Thegns to the second period. In first period, I'd give them only basic units. And not Celtic ones.Also Mercian kingdom dates rather to the second period. But they weren't English and therefore shouldn't be there.What is the difference between Feudal knight and Norman knight? I think, that they were both the same. Also dismounted knights were in use in last period as it was result of defeats caused by Scottish infantry to the English knights. I'd treat them as Norman infantry, instead.Border Reiver dates to the following period, IMHO. English used Longbowmen for pretty long time. In last period, they definitely shouldn't be missing. Also Billmen and Heavy Billmen in same period don't look well. Player will tend to select few units and continue using it. Therefore substitutes are redundant for now. Try to avoid them. If Total War style is implemented, then it makes some sense, but in AoK gameplay style it is waste of time as such units will be rarely used.Also I'm not sure if English used Handguns in last period. I think, that French supremacy in gunpowder was reason of English loss of 100 years war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abadu Posted February 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) Ok,Enlgand is not my speciallity,but i will update them,just some toughts:-The knigdom of Mercia WAS on England-There where border reivers from late 13th century to 16th century-Is there any problem with the welsh archer?And some toughts about the pictures that I provided:-Are the first saxon swordsman and fird accurate(Im having some problems in get saxon pictures)?-Are This pictures ok for the second saxon level?I will update it soonEDIT:Do you think that the portuguese fation has too many units? Edited February 23, 2007 by Abadu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belisarivs Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) Ok,Enlgand is not my speciallity,but i will update them,just some toughts:Well, then try to do factions you know. Your research of Italians impressed me, for example. I'd like to be as accurate as gameplay and 0AD allows.-The knigdom of Mercia WAS on EnglandEngland is land of angles (Jutes and Saxons). Mercians fought against them and therefore it would look weird ta have them in English faction.-There were border reivers from late 13th century to 16th centuryReally? I didn't know. Then let them be there.-Is there any problem with the welsh archer?Perhaps same as with Mercians. I think, that Welsh only rarely fought alongside Saxons.And some toughts about the pictures that I provided:-Are the first saxon swordsman and fird accurate(Im having some problems in get saxon pictures)?It looks fine.-Are This pictures ok for the second saxon level?It looks OK, too.EDIT:Do you think that the Portuguese faction has too many units?I don't know. Try to not to make too many units with equal stats and purposes. Those would be redundant. Edited February 23, 2007 by Belisarivs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abadu Posted February 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 ok,i will make another civ,but i will update my england ideas a bit(Them i think i will make Italy or Spain,i did france,and it was much more easy them ENglnad to me,latter take a look at them)Do I need to give the same number of units to all the factions?And have you seen the 0 AD video?Impressive,isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belisarivs Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 (edited) http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7071/engl1tb8.jpghttp://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8256/engl2ju2.jpghttp://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4108/engl3qb5.jpghttp://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9207/engl4cf3.jpghttp://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6767/engl5sv6.jpghttp://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6270/engl6ge6.jpgNormans (scale armour is Byzantine influence in Italian campaigns)http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7660/engl7jt9.jpghttp://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6485/engl8ow0.jpg Edited April 15, 2007 by Belisarivs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abadu Posted May 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 I made some changes in all the periods.Take a look and say what you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belisarivs Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 I don't know how much accurate that horse archer is.I think, that they dismounted before battle. So they didn't fight on horseback.I also see no difference between knight and Lancer. I think, hat all knights used lances for maximal effect of charge and when lances broke, they used swords. That is all.But I must say, that I really like first period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abadu Posted May 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 For the horse archer,I tough they were mounted infantry,pehraps we can make them in the mod like thisAs for the knights,pehraps we could make the 100 years war ones have an upgrade to turn them into war of the roses knightsDo you have any sugestion for late period units?If the mod includes the begining of the XVI century,i could add arquebusiersIf you have any sugestion for units,please say them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belisarivs Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 For the horse archer,I tough they were mounted infantry,pehraps we can make them in the mod like this.We will se if it will be possible. Then rename the to Mounted archers. Horse archer implies that he is fighting on horseback.As for the knights,pehraps we could make the 100 years war ones have an upgrade to turn them into war of the roses knightsDuring 100 years war English knights also evolved. I think, that development style like it is now is OK.Do you have any sugestion for late period units?If the mod includes the begining of the XVI century,i could add arquebusiersEE. Mod ends in 1492. 16. century belongs to timeframe of Colonial AD mod.If you have any sugestion for units,please say themPerhaps we could include Gallowglass/Gallowglaigh. Celtic man with two-handed sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abadu Posted May 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Ok,I changed some tihngs,take a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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