cl2488

Would you like to post your replay here? I will put your time in the leaderboard.

The 100 pop means there are 100 units on the map (not including the units in the queue).

It does not violate anything. I don't mean anything negative when use the word "trick". I was surprised to find that you cleverly uses the team bonus to boost the economy. Vali was intrigued by your time and said your replay is hilarious. By the way, if you don't use the team bonus and hero, what is your best time? Can you beat Vali's time?

My best time is 7:45. cl2488_100pop_challenge.zip

I watched your reply. 8 minutes is decent time. Below are several things that I saw, which may help you to improve: (1) I don't think it is a good idea to make cavalry in this challenge as it takes much longer time to make a cav than a woman. (2) You did not take the wood cutting upgrade. I think it is important to take the woodcutting upgrade early. (3) Too many units building the barrack and houses; you can cut the number of builders as the building efficiency drops with the number of builders. (4) You have too much wood and not enough food. You can improve the eco balance. Would you like to try it again and push your time limit (and possibly reach or beat Vali's time)?

It is a clever trick to use multiple beam bonuses. How does the regicide mode help the pop growth? Does the hero count in the pop?

They are still strong players. It is not difficult to pick up the games even after a long break. I have seen Feldfeld easily beating 1.7~2k players even after four months of break. Jofursloft did not play the game for two years, but when he show up again he easily beat some >1.6k players.

Below are some factors that you should consider to optimize the build order: (1) Should we take the berry upgrade? Should all four starting women build the farmstead or just one or two build it while the other collecting berry? (2) How to make the farmstead and storehouse most efficiently (positioning; how many units should build them)? (3) What is the best time to take the farming and woodcutting upgrade? (4) Have as few units as possible to build the houses without being housed (The building efficiency drops when more units build a house). (5) How to reduce the walking time of the units? (6) What is the best ratio of units on food and wood? .... It is sophisticated to push the 100-pop time record. Can you push the time to below 7 minutes? What is the ultimate "world record" build order?

I think the key of success of the tournament is to have many top players enter the tournament and finish it seriously. I don't know how effective the money prize can help to attract the good players. Do you have suggestions how to make as many top players as possible to enter the tournament? For example, some top players, eg. stockfish, feldfeld, starAtt, schweinepriester, superPOSITION etc, seldom show up in the lobby. Is there a way to let them know the tournament? Would the money prize be effective to "activate" the dormant players? If we have about ten >1900 players in the tournament, it will be exciting enough to watch the tournament.

Would you be interested in designing efficient build orders to take the following challenge? (1) Use Spartans on a small mainland map (subalphine biome) with low starting resources. (2) Don't take any extra berry beside the starting berry (but you can take extra hunt). (3) The maximum woman population is 50. With the above setting and requirements, please try your best to reach 100 pop in the fastest time. The 100 units need to be on the map (units in the queue don't count). You may make the pop exactly 100; once the 100th unit comes out, you may stop and record the time. Please post your time and your replays here. Leaderboard (standard setting with no team bonus; only players with replays uploaded are listed) 1. 7:01 Player of 0 AD (weirdjoke) 2: 7:10 Feldfeld 3. 7:20 Philip the Swaggerless 4. 7:27 ValihrAnt 5. 7:30 ISlan 6. 7:40 Freagarach 7. 7:42 Grapjast 8. 7:45 cl2488 9. 7:58 Vrayer 10. 8:08 Letswaveabook 11: 8:15 alre Additional note: 7:16 Player of 0 AD (weirdjoke) (using multiple team bonuses, a revealed map and a hero to help kill the hunt).

I have thought of the idea of an 0AD Alpha 25 tournament with prize money recently. Personally, I really enjoyed the series of games in the 2018 Championship, especially the final games between borg- and feldfeld. Even if it is likely that borg-, Vali and feld will win the top places in the tournament, it is still interesting to hold the tournament to let many players to push their skills and show the excitement of 0AD games. It is particularly fascinating to see the top players trying their best to push their skills to a new height. Also, most of the players just play the mainland maps. A tournament that involves a wide variety of maps can encourage them to expand their skills on different maps. The money prize would be a good incentive to raise the skill level of the games. I think finding $1000 for the prize money is doable. As long as we allow sufficient time to advertise the tournament, it should attract quite some good players to participate. Below is a proposal that I write for the tournament. You can have a look and give some feedback. If many players support the idea, we can proceed. --------------------------- 0 AD Alpha 25 Championship Tournament with ~$1000 money prize Champion $500 Runner-up $250 3rd place $150 4th place $100 5th place $80 6th place $60 7-10th place $40 To make it a decent-level tournament, you need to fulfill either one of the requirements below to enter the tournament: (1) Rating > 1400 (2) If you rating is <1400 or you have no rating, you may post one game here, in which you defeat two very hard AI. Then you can enter the tournament. ALL of the matches will be posted in the 0 AD forum. And we seek to broadcast the matches on the rounds of 8, semifinal and final on Youtube to let people know the excellence of 0 AD. So, please take the tournament seriously. This is a double-elimination tournament, in which every player is eliminated only after losing two rounds (each around is best of 5 or 7 games). All players will start in the winner bracket and do 1 v 1 matches. The winners will proceed, and the losers will go to the loser bracket. A player is eliminated after losing in the loser bracket. The winners of the two brackets will meet in the grand final for the championship. For each around, the two players should make time with each other to finish the matches by themselves (please finish them in one week, so that we can finish the whole tournament in two months). The winner needs to report the results and post the replays here. This tournament requires the players to know multiple civilizations and different maps. Below are the rules of the matches: (1) For each round of matches, the two players will play 1 v 1 matches in the format of best of 5 in the round of 32 and 16. The matches will be the best of 7 in the around 8, the semifinal and the final. (2) In each round of matches, each player cannot use the same civilization twice. (For example, if A uses the Ptolemies in one game, A cannot use the Ptolemies again in other games.) (3) The grand final will be best-of-7-game matches between the winner of the winner brackets (WW) and the winner of the loser bracket (WL). If WW wins, WW is the champion. If WL wins, they will conduct an additional round of best of 7 games, in which the winner is the champion. (A player is eliminated only after being defeated twice; so, WL needs to beat WW twice to knock out WW). (4) All the games will be played on standard 1 v 1 setting (small maps, 300 pop, low resources, no relics, random biome, unrevealed and unexplored maps, etc). For each around of matches, the maps will be: Game 1: Balanced mainland Game 2: Lake Game 3: African plain Game 4: Islands (naval map) Game 5: Unknown land Game 6: Rivers Game 7: Continents We reserve the right to modify the rules before the tournament starts. If you have any suggestions that may improve the tournament, please feel free to leave your comments. We will wait until there are 32 players to start the tournament. The anticipated starting time is Feb 2022. If there are more than 32 players, we will host preliminary matches among the low-rating players to select the strong ones to enter the around of 32. After the 32 players are determined, we will select 8 top players to be the seeds and position them in the eight major branches of the bracket, and randomize the position of the other players. We hope to arrange it in a way that the strong players will meet later in the tournament. If we don’t have 32 players before Feb 2022, the tournament may be canceled. So, please help promote and advertise this tournament. Can you help the tournament? We eagerly welcome sponsors and volunteers to help this tournament. Below is what you can help: I. Finance a. Can you donate money (e.g. $20, $50, etc) to the tournament prize money? b. Can you help us to find sponsors? c. Do you know how to efficiently collect money from donators and send prize money to the players? II. Before the tournament – Website, advertisement and promotion a. Website: We would like to make a website for the tournament, in which the results are reported and the Youtube video of the matches are shown. Can you help make the website? b. Advertisement video: Can you help us make an advertisement video clip (about 1 minute long) for the tournament? c. Youtube: If you are a Youtuber, can you post an advertisement video of the tournament in your channel? d. Warm-up matches: We want to promote the tournament with some high-level warm-up matches for the tournament (top players play each other on the various selected maps of the tournament). Can you play some exciting matches and post them here? We will select some to be posted on Youtube and the tournament website. III. During the tournament Youtubers, can you broadcast the matches and invite top players to make commentary? IV. During or after the tournament a. Can you help design and make the certificates? b. Can you help summarize the tournament and post some review videos on Youtube? c. Can you help contact some news agents (e.g. game magazines and websites, BBC news, ABC, NBC news, etc) to let the world know the tournament? We want as many people as possible to know the tournament.

Never mind. I have fixed the problem by using port forwarding. Thanks for your reply, which is helpful.

What is port forwarding? Can you explain more about it? How to do port forwarding in a Mac? I use STUN, but people still cannot join my game.

When I host a game in the lobby, other players cannot join my game. But I can join the games hosted by other players. I use MacOS Big Sur version 11.2.3. Do you have an idea what the problem is and how I can fix it?

Result: Lorenz11 won 2:0 against cl2488.

Result: cl2488 vs berhudar 2:0. cl2488 won.

Result: cl2488 vs Boredrusher 2:1. cl2488 won.

Result of cl2488 vs Wendy22: 0:2 Wendy22 won. Result of cl2488 vs Borerusher 1:0 cl2488 led.

@Derek0 Can you confirm that I will play my opponent at Sat 11pm +3 (that is, 1 pm PST) on Saturday (June 20)? I was confused by your message above.

@ Derek0 Can you confirm that I will play my opponent at Sat 11pm +3 (that is, 1 pm PST) on Saturday (June 20)?

@DerekO PST 1pm is good for me. Which day? June 18?

@DerekO The schedule says the time of my match is "Sat 11pm +3". What does "Sat 11 pm +3" mean (Which time zone)? 11 pm (at night) is quite late for me. How can I contact my opponent to make the time?

PST time 9 am - 5 pm should be good for me.

I would like to join the tournament. My time zone is Pacific Standard Time (PST). My in-game name is cl2488.

I would like to join the tournament. My time zone is Pacific Standard Time (PST). My in-game name is cl2488.