Civ: Palmyrenes

[Nicolaus_von_Kues]

Infantry equipment.

I had already shared my vision of the Palmyra swordman infantry above.

https://www.twcenter.net/threads/updated-collection-of-palmyrene-and-late-phartian-early-sassanid-armies-pics-and-miniatures.772222/

 

[Nicolaus_von_Kues]

https://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/archive/index.php?thread-18515.html

Composition of the armies of the third century.

It would seem that, if III Gallica are representative of other legions, the Roman army in the east remained loyal to Rome after the death of Odenathus. There could well have been defections, but as far as I know there's no evidence for this.

 

Palmyrene cavalry was very heavily armoured, so cataphracts would be a good guess. Otherwise, Zosimus gives Zenobia 'Syrians... Saracens and Armenians' - apparently light cavalry. Palmyra was a great trading centre, and probably made good use of mercenaries - the shifting allegiance of the Saracens and Armenians might reflect this.

 

Aurelian's army of the period was similarly polyglot: 'Mauritanian horse... Tyaneans... Mesopotamians... Syrians... Phoenicians, and... Palestinians' besides the Praetorians and legionary troops drawn from the Danube. (all quotes Zosimus , Historia Nova, Book I)

 

- Nathan

Edited 17 hours ago by Nicolaus_von_Kues

[Nicolaus_von_Kues]

https://www.eliteminiaturesaustralia.com.au/a-miniatures-palmyran-army-3rd-century/?srsltid=AfmBOootOYKRW1X_8_8-2LqMPbaZcWsD7OyOnIvm8ALkbG7Qh2ZLwLTf

 

This is difficult; there aren't many sources on the appearance of archers.

Basically, it's a combination of Eastern archers with a Persian archer and a Syrian auxiliary archer.

Edited 16 hours ago by Nicolaus_von_Kues

[ThePoshBarbarian]

16 hours ago, Nicolaus_von_Kues said:

 

 

Some concepts for Camel riders.

I believe that first image, used as reference for the ai, is carrying javelins? I at least think it's javelins, as the rider seems to be pulling it out of a quiver? It looks like it might be a large/long quiver but I'd need to find the original image to check.

[Nicolaus_von_Kues]

22 minutes ago, ThePoshBarbarian said:

I believe that first image, used as reference for the ai, is carrying javelins? I at least think it's javelins, as the rider seems to be pulling it out of a quiver? It looks like it might be a large/long quiver but I'd need to find the original image to check.

The original uses javelins, but the descriptions mention multiple weapons: swords, spears, javelins, and arrows.

I am using AI to refer to units that have hardly any illustrations.

https://www.historiascripta.org/classical-antiquity/dromedarii-camel-riders-in-the-roman-army/

"Palmyra / Tadmor, Homs governorate, Syria: Palmyra Museum. Caravan camel guarded by men armed with spear and sword".

Edited 56 minutes ago by Nicolaus_von_Kues

[Nicolaus_von_Kues]

http://byzantinemilitary.blogspot.com/2024/12/roman-camel-cavalry.html?m=1

My intention was only to show Arab clothing used by some Palmyrene units; it's complicated to show a single look for the troops.

The most outstanding and different units in the Palmyra army that distinguish them from other civs are the camel riders.

"Dromedarii were camel-riding auxiliary forces recruited in the desert provinces of the late Roman Empire in Roman Syria".

"A 1000-strong dromedarius unit, the ala I Ulpia Dromedariorum milliaria, was established by Trajan in Syria. A small number of dromedarii is recorded as part of the Cohors XX Palmyrenorum based in Dura-Europos in Roman Syria".

Edited 24 minutes ago by Nicolaus_von_Kues

[Nicolaus_von_Kues]

I'm going to put this label up to be more transparent.

I requested this image based on the previous images. 

 

I'm not happy with how the pants were designed.