Frumpus
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Cheer up, Caedus. I knew what you meant - and you were right anyway! Both the Haladin and the Druédain had women and men as warriors.
BTW, Adam, these two races were NOT related by blood at all, only by tongue.
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Perhaps the other way to address this is... simply to NOT make any distinction - since we wouldn't be able to tell them apart anyway. Only those "unknowledgeable-gamers" would complain about there "not being any dwarf women", but those "in-the-know" would realize that 1/3 of the civ IS women, just that they are indistinguishable.
LMAO (I didn't read the thread to the end):
Perhaps we should not even bother with two villagers of different genders? Let's just make a "neuter" villager sicne you can't tell them apart in voice, appearance, or even garb!...er, yeah - what he said.
Black Op makes a great point though. Perhaps when you're playing the Dwarven civ... the "differences" could be ... uhm ... "exaggerated" to portray your "superior-Dwarven-knowledge". If we do this, though, it seems clear the Dwarf women should stay underground though.
Ideas?? ...
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Uh, yeah.... Please stop trying to tear his essay up. His forum is FULL of LotR fans who didn't see the thing for the satire it is.
I'll be nice and simply say, "Stop while you're ahead."
Here's a link to the thread. Warning: they're overloaded now with people to make fun of - you'll see what I mean: http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/phpBB2...r=asc&start=160
(Personally, I can't remember the last time time I laughed OUT LOUD as often... by myself... at a joke on my computer!)
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But there is one passage where Isildur seems to say something different:
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"Was it not I that dealt the Enemy his death-blow?"
This seems to be a little more like how the movie portrayed it. But this quote does really seem a little different from the bulk of quotes about it.
You know... this passage "could" be interpreted as showing the first effects of the Ring on Isildur's mind (similar to Gollum's "birthday present" story - he convinced himself "his" story was history). I wouldn't put too much stock into that ONE line... I'd be looking for other sources to back Isildur up.
... and with Adam's quote, I think we have just that!
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"The Taming of Smeagol"?
(I won't ask another question if this is correct...).
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Celeborn's father, and thus Celebrian's paternal grandfather, is said to be Galadhon, son of Elmo and nephew of Elu Thingol.
Wow, I didn't even know that... and I made up a gengeaology including "Celeborn... of Doriath". Umm, HERE's a question for Halmirion: Where did you find this (above) information on Celeborn's origins? In UT?
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Answer is, "The Istari" of Unfinished Tales.
Next one:
Thus it came to pass that on a morning of fair sun and white wind, in the bright spring of the seven hundred and twenty-fifth year of the Second Age, the son of the King's Heir of Númenor 4 sailed from the land; and ere day was over he saw it sink shimmering into the sea, and last of all the peak of the Meneltarma as a dark finger against the sunset. -
Watchstones
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The trumpets resound as Frumpus' host of Valar thump back to Middle-Earth and create a rumpus; they dump lumps of bumps, heaping humps upon ALL other hosts... and whumping the rumps of those that flee in terror!
Harumph!
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Right, but Denethor is the author. At first he is musing about Aragorn.
Text changes from "he" to "I".
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Woah - brain-pop: "were ensared by Sauron and became his servants"
Umm.... I wonder if the Mouth of Sauron could possibly be one of the Blue Wizards? I rather doubt it, because not enough time would have passed since their coming to ME.
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Bah - I wouldn't let them get away with that if they tried it!
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Excellent, Enarwaen! You get a ... hero cookie (to be emailed later - after applicable taxes and tariffs are calcualated ... - after lunch).
seed begun ere valinor - I was thinking more... he has elven blood, and they began in middle earth - before they(some) went to Valinor, but you offer a good alternative.
bent hot passion to demise - Denathor's deluded scene in the tombs
Linguistic giveaways:
"... bore
A mere"
"done - afore"
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(I thought it was 1600 years difference).
But ~1150 SR would be ~1750 in the standard calendar.
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Would that be 1150 by the SHIRE Reckoning?
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You're on the right track, but this line, "No tale tells my ending fate" wouldn't fit with Mim.
On the other hand, his last surviving son, IBUN, is the answer to the riddle. Tolkien created a bit of a "black hole" surrounding his doom. He was captured with Mim, his father, by Orcs ... but then only Mim returns home to betray Turin (and "almost" slay Beleg). Oddly, Mim doesn't mention whether the Orcs slayed his son, or released him. My guess is they took him away to Angband (but that is another tale). Mim is finally killed by Hurin at Nargothrond.
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The main linguistical clue to the third riddle is in the line, "Then cometh fell deeds done - afore", but there's another in stanza two.
No guesses on the first riddle? (Yikes, I didn't want to make them too easy.)
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Hmm, I like the idea - seems like something Sauron would dream up, and could create a ton of smoke.
Would it be "necessary" for a trench to be made?? I don't see why FoD couldn't just make "bonfires" in long lines (without trenches) for the same effect.
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Brandywine
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Firstborn
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1. Racial origins of the Dunlendings. See this thread for more: http://forums.wildfiregames.com/tla/index....p?showtopic=300 but... in short, the Dunlendings were believed to share the same ancestry as the people of Haladin in Beleriand. Swarthy men, who initially had a great relationship with the Dru'edain in the FA, but ended up being enemies.
2. Elendil = L, ND, L = lambe, ando, lambe (I think).
...And now for my question:
How long was Isildur in possesion of the One Ring (as well as being King of Gondor) before he died?
(It had always seemed to me that the Ring betrayed him right after the Battle on Dagorlad, but... I was wrong).
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You're close, but... Ok, I'll revise this one:
They were the first; now I'm the last
BANISHED were we - far in the past
Learned in smithcraft, stone and ore
Bold and proud, and strong what's more
Seven stars on banner raised
Red crown on the throne those days
From Master of earth-roots Fathers learned
But to more TASTY roots I returned
What becomes of me of late?
No tale tells my ending fate
and...
Such claims delivered steeped in lore
To halls of BLACK and WHITE bethroned
Of seed begun ere Valinor
And blood that flows within the Stone.
That blade and clearest threat he bore
A mere caretaker - I - in his eyes.
It rent the pride of ages before
And bent hot passion to demise.
Then cometh fell deeds done - afore
The conquerer could usurp the shore.
Dare ye to see with longest sight?
Espie through MY HANDS BURNING BRIGHT!
(For this one, there are two linguistic clues hidden inside).
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Ered Lithui
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...yikes - not even a guess??
How long have you been reading Tolkien?
in The Green Dragon
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My Mom read The Hobbit to my brother and I before I was ten (I don't remember exactly) - perhaps a couple of times, along with the Chronicles of Narnia.
In grade seven, my class read The Hobbit again for English class; I was thirteen.
Then came a LONG slump where I "tried" to read the FotR during my teens, but never got more than halfway through it (you know, the "slow start" in Hobbiton and such).
It wasn't until the movies neared that I read LotR fully, along with The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales (and of course, The Hobbit again). From then on I've... um --"studied" LoTR, Silm, U.T., Hobbit... a second and third time through; alot of it was cross-referencing to find details for TLA.